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Kdtym10 · 18/03/2024 08:40

Anyway, this thread has become infiltrated by a disingenuous poster (and I use that in the singular despite any name changes). AI really cannot replicate humanity, let alone divinity.

I guess some people are enamoured by a 19th century ideology, rather than a perennial one😃.

But as I don’t suffer fools gladly I’ll sign off from this thread now, no doubt the blind will follow though!

Lalupalina · 18/03/2024 08:50

@Kdtym10 It's a shame that you're closing down our interesting conversation about how God might reveal himself to non believers as I am genuinely interested.

It gives me the impression that you're struggling to answer some of my questions.

Kdtym10 · 18/03/2024 09:04

Lalupalina · 18/03/2024 08:50

@Kdtym10 It's a shame that you're closing down our interesting conversation about how God might reveal himself to non believers as I am genuinely interested.

It gives me the impression that you're struggling to answer some of my questions.

Oh I’m more than happy to answer your questions my comment wasn’t aimed at you at all. In fact I’ll create a new thread in this very topic if you like

Kdtym10 · 18/03/2024 09:09

Lalupalina · 18/03/2024 08:50

@Kdtym10 It's a shame that you're closing down our interesting conversation about how God might reveal himself to non believers as I am genuinely interested.

It gives me the impression that you're struggling to answer some of my questions.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/5030766-atheists-and-proof

@Lalupalina new tgread on this very topic. Let’s move the discussion there.

Atheists and proof | Mumsnet

On several threads, some atheists have said they would believe in God/the Divine if they had proof. If you’re an atheist what would that proof look li...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/5030766-atheists-and-proof

Thegreatestoftheseislove · 18/03/2024 09:58

heyhohello · 17/03/2024 20:48

Some tv gold on the subject. 🙂

Love that! 🙂

Mustardseed86 · 18/03/2024 10:23

I love Rev too. Thanks @heyhohello.

OP posts:
heyhohello · 18/03/2024 10:37

@Mustardseed86 & @Thegreatestoftheseislove, yes, I loved this series. 🙂

Thegreatestoftheseislove · 18/03/2024 11:09

heyhohello · 18/03/2024 10:37

@Mustardseed86 & @Thegreatestoftheseislove, yes, I loved this series. 🙂

That scene struck a chord with me - memories of standing, alone at the top of a hill, screaming into a gale force wind and having an encounter with God, and being filled with His peace: the one that surpasses all understanding.

Kdtym10 · 18/03/2024 11:19

Thegreatestoftheseislove · 18/03/2024 11:09

That scene struck a chord with me - memories of standing, alone at the top of a hill, screaming into a gale force wind and having an encounter with God, and being filled with His peace: the one that surpasses all understanding.

That’s fantastic - thanks for sharing

heyhohello · 18/03/2024 11:48

@Thegreatestoftheseislove lovely! Thanks for posting that!🙂

Jellyfishnchips · 22/03/2024 18:46

Hi everyone, how are you all doing?

Jellyfishnchips · 22/03/2024 18:47

I’ve been away a while and not caught the last several pages of posts, wasn’t sure if anyone still following x

ArchaeoSpy · 02/05/2024 19:11

could it be debatable that What if its to give the masses something to believe in ?

heyhohello · 03/05/2024 13:53

@ArchaeoSpy could it be debatable who the masses are?

Christianity from its very beginnings has always been somewhat countercultural.

ArchaeoSpy · 04/05/2024 16:02

Christianity, from its inception, has consistently exhibited countercultural characteristics. While it’s easy to idealize a time when “real Christians” lived out their faith in a way uninfluenced by the world, historical evidence suggests otherwise. Let’s explore this further:

In summary, Christianity’s countercultural nature has persisted throughout history, challenging prevailing norms and inviting believers to live out their faith authentically.

Culture Influences Every Christian

There’s no point in the life of the church that we can restore to find flawless biblical fidelity.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/reviews/cultural-christians-early-church/

ArchaeoSpy · 04/05/2024 16:05

Copilot
Using the web,
Social Function of Religion:

Throughout history, religions have played a significant role in shaping societies and providing a framework for understanding the world. They offer answers to existential questions, provide moral guidelines, and create a sense of community.
From an anthropological standpoint, religion often serves as a cohesive force that binds people together, fosters social stability, and provides a shared identity.

Mass Belief Systems:

Some argue that organized religions, including Christianity, emerge as a response to human needs. These needs include comfort, purpose, and a sense of belonging.
Mass belief systems can be seen as a way to address collective anxieties, uncertainties, and existential fears. They offer hope, meaning, and a sense of control over life’s unpredictability.

Critiques and Skepticism:

Critics contend that religious institutions sometimes manipulate or exploit the masses. They may use religious narratives to maintain power, control behavior, or suppress dissent.
The question arises: Is religion primarily a genuine expression of faith or a tool wielded by those in authority?

Individual Faith vs. Societal Function:

It’s essential to recognize that individual faith and the societal function of religion are not mutually exclusive. People’s personal beliefs can coexist with the broader social impact of religion.
While some individuals genuinely find solace and purpose in their faith, others may participate in religious practices due to cultural norms or social pressure.

Complexity and Nuance:

The relationship between religion and the masses is multifaceted. It encompasses genuine devotion, cultural tradition, social cohesion, and institutional dynamics.
Christianity, like any major religion, has both deeply committed followers and those who participate more passively.

In summary, Christianity serves various purposes, including providing spiritual fulfilment, fostering community, and addressing societal needs. Whether it’s a genuine expression of faith or a tool for social cohesion depends on individual perspectives and the broader context

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