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DP dismisses my religion and I’m hurt

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ThomasRichard · 27/12/2018 20:20

I’ve been with DP for 2 years; I have 2 DC (not his) and he’s about to move in. I’m a Christian, he’s atheist. Marriage is really important to me and while we’re living together without being married I’m restricted on what I can do at church because sex outside marriage is a big no-no. For me, it’s also negatively affecting the way I feel about myself and also worries me in an eternal-perspective view. He knew the full details of my religious views when we started dating and I have brought up the marriage aspect periodically. At the beginning of the year I went through this with him again and he said we could get married. I waited a few months, no proposal, so brought it up again and he said he felt it was too early. I was a bit confused but waited. Still nothing 7 months later so I approached it with him again last night and he spent half an hour rubbishing my beliefs, pointing out how illogical and meaningless they are, and telling me that I shouldn’t care what other people think. I tried to explain to him that it was about how I felt about myself too but I was crying and I just didn’t get it across very well. He doesn’t want to get married until ‘it feels right’.

I’m so hurt. Not even particularly about him not wanting to get married, more about the way he completely dismissed my feelings and beliefs and tried to talk me out of having them. I don’t understand how he can love me if he’s ok with me feeling humiliated in my social circle when he doesn’t have any particular reason for not getting married, he just wants it on his own timing. I don’t like the way he told me - in not so many words - that my beliefs are stupid and illogical so nothing that I feel about them is valid or should be considered. It’s really left me questioning whether this is a good relationship. In all other ways he is kind, hardworking and fun to be with. But he was so dismissive and rude last night that I’m shocked and deeply hurt.

Has anyone else had a partner who disagrees with their beliefs? How did you square it? Or not?

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bellinisurge · 31/12/2018 19:44

Mum was a devout Catholic, Dad was an atheist - Jewish by birth. Dad didn't convert nor did he stop being an atheist. However he diligently made sure my Mum could go to Mass in whatever country they travelled to - they travelled a lot. They were married in a Catholic Church and we were brought up Catholic. It's about respect. He respected my Mum's views and she respected his.

53rdWay · 31/12/2018 20:06

Is there a hierarchy of sins then? How are they ranked?

Yes, plenty of denominations have that kind of system (mortal sins vs venial sins in Catholicism for example). I take it your ‘Bible studies’ didn’t focus much on differing approaches to moral theology?

Jason118 · 31/12/2018 21:48

Correct, I didn't study much Smile

MumUnderTheMoon · 01/01/2019 20:39

I am an atheist but I would never be so disrespectful as to rubbish another persons beliefs as I recognise they give people strength. To do so was very wrong of him but I have to ask you why are you compromising your beliefs for someone with so little respect for you? I think you need to give this relationship some serious reconsideration and I wouldn't move in with him right now.

headinhands · 02/01/2019 09:25

I don’t understand how he can love me if he’s ok with me feeling humiliated in my social circle when he doesn’t have any particular reason for not getting married,

Whoa it's not him that's judging you. Why aren't you angry with the system that is humiliating you?

He said he doesn't want to get married because it's too soon. I can see why, you seem to have had an awful lot of chats about marriage, not in the usual organic way but in a forced way.

headinhands · 02/01/2019 14:59

Sorry to reply again op. I can appreciate how you feel but you have to see the root of this isn't your dp. You're feeling unhappy but you're targeting the wrong person. Your dp isn't the one who's decided you need to be knocked down a peg or three because you've engaged in a consensual activity with someone you love, who also loves you, that brings you both pleasure and hurts no one.

exexpat · 02/01/2019 15:12

I don't think you are compatible.

From what you have said (mention of bishops etc), I am assuming you are a member of the Latter Day Saints/Mormons, which is a pretty full-on religion with some ideas that non-believers have a hard time taking seriously, and I think any partner you have really needs to be on board with it. As an atheist, I cannot imagine being in a serious long-term relationship with someone committed to that kind of belief system.

Yes, your partner should have made it clear what he thought of your religious beliefs earlier, and it sounds like he came out with it all in a very rude, unhelpful way, but at least it is before you have taken the step of moving in together. I think you need to cancel those plans and rethink the relationship.

areyoubeingserviced · 23/01/2019 13:46

You are not compatible. Simple

IdaBWells · 24/01/2019 19:59

OP my husband and I are of the same faith which we practice. If you are a person of faith and your church and practice mean so much to you it is a very big mistake to toss out your values to be with someone.

If he was respectful and honored this very important part of your life it's possible it could work. However, as his beliefs and values are very different I think you are making a very big mistake living together. Please don't do it. You already have a divorce behind you, you don't want more pain, sorrow and confusion in you and your children's lives. Don't deny to yourself how important this is to you because you are most likely going to create a situation in which you will be very unhappy.

Your partner is being honest but I don't believe you are being honest with yourself. The bible warns us not to "yoke ourselves to unbelievers" Corinthians 6:14 because it's not fair on them or us if our values and view of the world is very different. These marriages can of course work, but it's putting a very serious strain on the marriage if your belief in God is very important to you and he has no belief at all. You most likely are going to feel very lonely and misunderstood at times. What if you have a child and you want them to be baptised and he is adamantly against it? What if he undermines your values and beliefs in front of your kids or refuses to teach them to his own biological child?

My husband will take the lead in teaching our cues to our kids it's not just up to me. We support each other and have a strong marriage as a result.

Dover1 · 30/01/2019 20:51

You say he knew your religious views etc when you started dating. Similarly you knew his. Do you respect his atheism in the same way that you are wanting him to respect your beliefs?

If not the relationship will never work

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