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Any Witches Here ? Part 3

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speakout · 15/09/2018 18:03

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.

A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration

All welcome.

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Bellecose2 · 27/09/2018 08:29

@speakout.. Love those cards

StewPots · 27/09/2018 08:33

Good morning all :) slowly working my way through the previous threads!

Physica · 27/09/2018 08:33

Thank you, speakout and boldly. I’m reassured that you think it isn’t possible to do accidentally - but I think I explained poorly. Both things were cases where I would normally automatically say a prayer - one very minor - a lost purse I wanted found. And one major - a peace offering birthday card I sent to my father, in the hope it would be a first step in improving our rather crap relationship. So I did. But I was aware during/ after saying the prayer that it wasn’t directed or phrased the normal way - I felt like I was drawing on something different to normal or approaching petition in a different way. More like I was using my own will than asking God to make things happen? I don’t know. The card in particular I found myself willing an intention for healing into the words as I wrote them. It seems to have worked as a first step - we have reestablished fairly cordial contact at least. But other totally unrelated and more negative things have happened that I’m worried aren’t actually unrelated. Oh and the purse was also found, in very odd circumstances.
I am fascinated though. And very eager to listen and learn from everyone here. So I will stop rabbiting now and start doing so!

speakout · 27/09/2018 08:33

Thank you- I may order these too

Any Witches Here ? Part 3
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Physica · 27/09/2018 08:55

I love those hares!

speakout · 27/09/2018 09:08

Physica

They are lovely aren't they.

Hares have a long association with goddess energy, ancient Celtic traditions- from 6000 years ago held the hare as a sacred animal.

We still have a version of the hare ( or rabbit ) in our culture when we celebrate Easter- ( or Oestre to give the pre christian name to the spring festivities)

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boldlygoingsomewhere · 27/09/2018 09:15

Beautiful cards, speakout and thank you for your kind words. It was a long time ago now but sticks in my memory as an occasion where rational mind was trying to ignore or downplay my actual feelings. I’ve learnt since then to really pay attention to how something makes me feel - that is often where the truth lies.

sockportal · 27/09/2018 12:14

I love the cards @speakout they gave me a lovely warm and contented feeling

SeagIass · 27/09/2018 13:17

Hi everyone. Loving all the beautiful cards Speakout

I went to a drumming circle last night. I’ve never touched a drum before in my life but I absolutely loved it. So invigorating and joyous! I have decided to sign up to go every week. It is going to lead up to a celebration during Solstice. Can’t wait Grin

Elphame · 27/09/2018 13:24

Can spells be cast accidentally? Now that is an interesting question and IMO it depends on what you mean by accidentally.

Giving someone a dirty look because they've pulled into the parking space you've been patiently waiting for then no.

If however you have accidentally assembled all the ingredients and elements required for a successful spell then yes. You don't need to have the mindset that this is a spell for the universe (or whatever) to pay attention. It knows a spell when it sees one even if you don't.

And yes, any spell can have negative repercussions. I am not a believer in the 3 fold law but I do believe that everything you do has consequences and that holds true for the mundane world as well as in magic. Some of the consequences will be good, some harmless and some may be harmful. Part of the art of successful spellwork is trying to foresee how the spell might work and what might happen as a result. Try to close as many loopholes as you can to reduce the chances of a serious misfire.

speakout · 27/09/2018 13:51

Elphame

You make some interesting points.

Yes- what is a spell?

Blowing out a flame on a birthday cake? Lighting a candle for someone so they have a safe journey? Muttering ill will of someone under our breath?

I guess we all do acts of " magic" regularly- I have my own definition of what spell work means and does not- others may have different ideas.

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InTheTempest · 27/09/2018 15:55

I have spent a lot of time today reading the two previous threads, they make for such a lovely calming, inspiring read.

I've just seen that it's the wytches market in Glastonbury this weekend and I would love to go, it's about an hour and 45 mins away from me so not a million miles but sadly doubt if I will be able to make it. I live close to Avebury and am thinking of going there soon, will be nice to take my children there as I remember going when I was a child.

I love the hare cards, they are lovely. I will definitely try and find similar I think.

Elphame · 27/09/2018 16:18

I'm planning on whizzing into the market on Saturday, trying not to buy anything and then on to a guided walk around Brent Knoll and it's pagan past. Really looking forward to it.

The Wytches market is now quarterly so if you can't make Saturday they'll be plenty of others.

I've been busy with apples. I have them coming out of my ears - I have 6 apple trees all heavily laden. I've given away countless bags and I've currently got another 10lbs or so in the steam juicer to make apple jelly. I love my steam juicer. You just chop the fruit and set it going. No need to peel, core or cut out the bruised bits.

Apple jelly on its own doesn't have much flavour so I'll be adding herbs to some of it and chilli to most of it to make a sweet chilli jelly that doubles as a sweet chilli dipping source, a side with cheese or even just on toast.

Veterinari · 27/09/2018 16:22

I’d really like some advice please lovely witch-friends

I have a close relative who is very ill. The likelihood is that the disease is terminal - doctors have not yet said so but I have enough medical knowledge to be pretty sure. The relative knows it’s serious, is very scared and looking for hope. I have to try and provide that hope in spite of my knowledge to the contrary - what do I do? I feel like a fraud and a liar when I tell them it’s going to be ok, but I genuinely believe that they aren’t strong enough to deal with the reality just yet - they would simply give up and die without a fight. How do I manage this and is there anything I can do to send positive intent their way. I light candles and offer positive thoughts but i’ve No experience with formal spells and I’m very cautious of unintended consequences.

I just feel so helpless

Elphame · 27/09/2018 16:37

I am sorry Veterinari The best thing that you can do is be there for them I think. Even if it's just a hand to hold. If your relative's time on this plane is drawing to a close no spell is going to change that. If and when death is imminent there are things you can do to help the transition to be as peaceful as possible but it sounds like you are nowhere near that yet.

As for feeling like a fraud or liar when you say everything will be OK, well I believe that everything will be OK, death is just a transition to the next stage of existence.

I will light a candle for both of you now and send some comfort and strength. Flowers

speakout · 27/09/2018 18:00

Veterinari

I agree with Elphame- your words will be a comfort, and hoping for a peaceful journey is an important thing to do.

So it is not without hope really.

You don't feel that this is a time to start spell work- trust your instincts.
What you are doing with candles is enough.

Also try to care for yourself at this time- I know you want to give support, but nurture yourself too- ultimately this will enable you to be the best support you can.

Have a relaxing bath, light a candle to nurture your own spirit, use some calming oils to soothe yourself.

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YashmisCrone · 27/09/2018 18:01

So sorry Veterinari

Sending love to you and your relative Flowers

VioletCharlotte · 27/09/2018 18:27

So sorry @Veterinari, that's such sad news. I believe the best thing you can do for someone who is really ill is just be there for them. You may find some family member and friends will avoid them as they won't know what to say and will feel awkward. If you can stay strong and be their rock, it'll make a huge difference. Let them know you're there to listen and encourage them to talk about memories if they want to.

Sending out love and light to you Thanks

GeeIneverthoughtofthat · 27/09/2018 19:44

So sorry to hear your news @Veterinari

I used to sit with my elderly relative and chat if they wanted to chat or just sit quietly if they didn’t. I put hand cream gently onto their tired dry hands (from the illness). It was a way of touching without it being too tiring or intrusive. Little things do genuinely mean a lot.

Please make sure that you also look after yourself. Salt and oil baths are great. As is a short walk in the brisk fresh air.

Thinking of you. 💐

user1457017537 · 27/09/2018 21:56

I’m thinking of you and wishing you strength in this sad time

PawneeParksDept · 27/09/2018 22:52

Evening all so much of this thread to catch up on but @speakout it came today thanks so much! Xx

PawneeParksDept · 27/09/2018 22:55

@Veterinari I'm so sorry.

In my Celtic background there is a tradition that in the moment of passing one should light a candle and open a window to send the soul on its journey. I like it as a tradition and take comfort from it, if you or another family member is in the position to do so.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 28/09/2018 06:33

Veterinari, I’m sorry to hear your news. It’s little things which will be helpful. Taking time to be with them, thinking of their comfort...

Geel’s suggestion of hand cream is a good one. I used to do that for my mum and put on lip balm for her. It helped her feel a bit more human.

Bellecose2 · 28/09/2018 07:37

@veterinari... My thoughts are with you.
So many beautiful words written here, I hope it is some comfort.

@Elphame... I hope you are coping with your deluge of apples. That apple jelly sounds devine!

@Yashmin...I am now exploring verbal sigils which I find a little more powerful.

@speakout... I am at a crossroads (not major) with a decision to pursue a particular direction or not and have consulted the tarot. However, as you read me so well previously, I wonder if you would pull a card for me (only if you have time) so I could compare?

speakout · 28/09/2018 10:13

Bellecose2

Yes that's no problem- later today if that's OK, I am a usual busy bee through the day.

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