Cosmic Ordering - let's try again?

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Logically I know it "should" be a load of crap but every time I've tried it, I've received what I asked for. Way back as an 8 year old we were moving house and I so desperately wanted a garden with steps on the path (no idea why). I visualised it and "prayed" for it and the house we ended up with had two steps on the path which was very rare in that area.

More recently I stumbled across the concept of cosmic ordering and decided to "order" a money find. A few nights later we were walking through a graveyard and there on the ground wet through and covered in muck was a £10 note staring up at me. I put it down to co-incidence.

A couple of years later I met a guy, fell in love with him and looking back it was obvious that I liked him more than he liked me ... So out of desperation I "cosmically ordered" for him to tell me he loved me on one specific night. So there we are, camping in a field, messing around and I do something daft and he laughs and says "oh god, I love you!" - he was not being serious, he was being sarcy but he still said it.

So a few months later I placed a cosmic order for him to say he loved me and meant it. So there we are, great night out, we're back in the hotel, he'd not said it. I tried to prompt it by asking how he thought the relationship was going and he said "great, but let's take it slow eh? I mean, I don't want to say I love you ... We've not been together long ... But I do, I do love you ..." Wtf? Cosmic order granted but not quite in the way I'd hoped.

A year later, we're still together. I place a cosmic order for him to ask me to marry him on this specific night. So we're sat in a restraunt and I do not prompt the conversation at all. All of a sudden he laughs and says "let's run off and get married in Vegas?". I didn't know how to take it so didn't say anything .. He then added - "I'm joking ..."

A few days ago I "ordered" an iphone 5c in green for less than £300 - that same night dp told me he'd won me that same phone on ebay for £260 (almost impossible to get one so cheap in "like new" condition.

It just seems that I get everything I ask for when I try it but never in a way I expect it. Does anyone else have any stories about cosmic ordering?
If you're not into it, don't take the piss please :-)

Today, I'm going to try it again. I'm going to start small and order the sighting of a red balloon by the end of the day. I'll update tonight whether or not it appeared.

Capsium - I fall for every unscientific marketing ploy there is. My bathroom cabinet is heaving.

Well, I don't really fall for it.....if it smells nice and has a pretty box I'm happy.

Yes, my body is going to medical science too....if they want it, and I'm not needed for organ donation first.

Colin

So, will you answer? Not a problem if not, just interested in your response.

I think sugar is toxic....and I am trying to cut down currently.

There is an interesting programme on BBC Two at 21:00 called "An hour to save your life".

I am expecting that they will spend the first 59 mins of the hour all huddled round making positive thoughts, then the last minute writing up the death certificate. Should be an interesting watch.

There is an interesting programme on BBC Two at 21:00 called "An hour to save your life".

I am expecting that they will spend the first 59 mins of the hour all huddled round making positive thoughts, then the last minute writing up the death certificate. Should be an interesting watch.

Sorry my apologies Technodad I genuinely didn't see that post for some reason.

I think alternative therapy is dangerous - absolutely! I would NEVER EVER advise ANYONE to do what Steve Jobs did and shun allopathic medicine. I would always ask my clients to see a Doctor if I was worried. I make sure that they have no reason I can't treat them and if I am at all worried I ask them to see their Doctor first and I don't treat them until they do! Many of my clients have consultants who are more than happy for them to see me as they know that the stress relief they get will help them.

As for how it works - I think in most cases ut us the allopathic medicine doing the curing. My role essentially is to help clients alongside medicine. I see it as helping fill in the gaps that medicine can't fill - i.e I can give them alot more time than gp's and consultants etc. I have time to listen to their worries and give them home care advice. They feel more relaxed after their therapy and I also can teach them ways to relax at home and breathing techniques. The relaxation element helps with stress, mood and energy levels etc, sleep is often improved rather dramatically. Pain can be lessened because of the stress relief too. These are all things that can really help improve a persons quality of life. They should not be underestimated.

Techno - I am on a strong, high dose of medication. I would not be well without them but equally the drugs on there own didn't make me totally well. In the end I had alot of complementary therapy. It is the two together that made me totally well. Neither could do it on there own.

However I am not going to say that there isn't the potential for complementary therapies to help with further things. I do believe there is much we don't know. I believe there is much to study. Some clients come to me because they have a minor complaint such as a bad back and m aybe don't really need to go to the Doctor or the Doctor has just recommended pain killers etc. My clients sometimes find an that their issue does indeed disappear with therapies. So I will never say that it can only help with stress relief but I am very honest with my clients about what comp therapy can and can't do. As comp therapists go I am very well qualified and keep to my professional associations code of conduct. Not all of us are dodgy! I personally think we should all have to be on a register - like I was as a nurse when I was younger. However the government and he PA's decided to go for voluntary registration.

I want to help clients not rip them off.

Hope that kind of answers your questions Techno.

It does. Thanks.

And to me, I can't see any use of CO in its defined sense, only placebo.

Capsium -yes in reference to miracel creams the beauty industry seem to get away with alot. For example things that contain collagen. Collagen is too big a molecule to be absorbed by the skin therefore it doesn't work by putting it in skin.

Ooh goody a medical documentary. I do like a nice fly-on-the-wall-spattered-in-blood type programme.

col we can agree that sympathy and kindness are often a big help to ill people.

Techno - no I don't use any CO in my work itself. I have never said that! I try to use it in a way that may help me achieve business goals and reach targets and remain positive as I am really not a natural business woman by any means. I would much rather not deal with money at all and work for a charity of a hospice.

The thread seems to have go on a different tangent to strictly CO anyway but I have never said I used it in my therapies itself. Although you will have guessed by now that I don't think it is purely placebo with my therapies either. However I do ask for it to be for the highest good as I don't want to for example reach a business goal at the expense of others etc. As I say I do believe that most of my clients gain something from coming so I don't believe that asking for more clients goes against my basic desire to not rip anyone off etc. I try to do my bit for more important things like poverty in other ways - much more actively.

You are not offering a talking service, Colin.....that would make you a counsellor. I hope that you haven't decided all by yourself that you are qualified to deal with pain relief matters.

No, you are offering "therapies". These are "treatments intended to heal or relieve a disorder".

Why do you think you should be able to offer a service like this without any actual evidence - other than a pile of anecdotes - that they work?

Beast - well atleast we can agree on that then
I am not in my industry to hurt anyone or rup them off or give them false hope. I just want to help people like you do and many others do. How that help is delivered is different of course but the important thing to me is if the client feels better and on that my conscience is entirely clear.

You're not going to say what these therapies are - it's OK, you probably don't want to out yourself and I understand that.

But I am pretty sure that if you did name them, we could demolish them as theories in a matter of seconds and probably give you a long list of people who have died because of these "therapies".

That's the problem.

And I don't think you are deliberately ripping people off - but I do think this practice should be outlawed. Not going to happen anytime soon, unfortunately.

It's aromatherapy. Obvs.

Possibly. Or possibly generic healing. It would be interesting to know, but I do see the difficulty of being outed.

col could give us a list of three that includes the right answer?

hijack alert!!!
Oh people, if only you realised that those of us who decided to hone/research and practise our energy 'gifts' were actually dedicating ourselves to help. As someone who can see into human energy fields (no, there wasn't a degree available on that for me to pass)- not all humans are the same.

Thus, it is my humble conclusion that some 'treatments' medicines, or alternatives, placebos or otherwise won't always have the same or predictable results.

There is a common misrepresentation of what 'healing' actually is. No one can heal anyone else, it's the chemical reactions in the body from how the body uses that medicine that can assist in the healing process.

Human bodies are always trying to keep the balance. When something is 'out' then it tries to claim back resource from another part of the body to keep the balance in proper functioning.

The body heals, based upon the reaction from receiving 'something', or from having something 'removed' ie allergens that may have caused the imbalance in the first place. That something contains atoms/molecules whatever - so, it could be in the form of a tiny pill made from atoms, or an energy session - also made from atoms.

Yes, chemo can kill cancer cells - but it also destroys many other cells in the body that the body requires. Sometimes, bodies can take a very long time to repair what has been killed from the chemo. Sometimes bodies cannot heal what has been killed from chemo.

It's pretty much unfair to make huge generalisations about people who 'claim' to be able to self heal. People can self heal. If anyone requires further information on self healing, energy work et al - just look to the scientific research of Qigong/Chikung.

A tiny pill made from atoms?! As opposed to a tiny pill made from...?

Hettie ah well. Have those creams in the pretty jars made you look beautiful?

Great to see so many having the courage of their convictions, though, and donating their bodies to science.

What is the physical component of an energy session that is made from atoms?

I am shite at understanding science, I'll admit that.

But what I do know is that my dear mum spend a great deal of time thinking positively, writing down her hopes, praying, drinking potions made of magical herbs, blah blah blah. None of it cured her cancer, FFS.

She probably didn't try hard enough, eh?

Hettie -I didn't say I offered counselling however surely you realise that one can listen to someone effectively without being a counsellor! It is an important thing to my clients to just be allowed time to talk. It is an element of what I do in a session along with the actual therapy. I have much training in being able to listen and care for my clients and I used to be a trained nurse so I can safely say that I know the difference and where my role ends and a counsellors begins.

I didn't say that I am qualified to deal with pain relief - although that is a strange thing to write in my opinion.

I clearly said that some of my clients don't wish to take pain killers all of the time for minor complaints. I don't advertise myself as being able to relieve pain at all. I fully stick to the ASA guidelines. However if they come to me and my therapy isn't going to make there issue worse and it happens to give them relief then what is wrong with that? If I give someone a massage do you not think that that could possibly help- with sore shoulders of back pain. This is with people that have already been to the doctors and I won't treat them if there is any reason that my therapies would make it worse or if there was a serious issue. Relaxation on its own can help with pain. Surely you know that?

Complementary Therapies are therapies that are used alongside allopathic medicine so you can try and tell me what my therapies are or what purpose they are for but I can assure you that I am not an alternative therapist.

re the pill comment, I was merely attempting to show that an energy ie reiki treatment is also made from atoms. Human bodies react as receivers and senders of energy. React to and change.

What is the physical component of an energy session that is made from atoms?

Why would there have to be a physical component? If you mean what 'gives' or sends the energy? then that would be the giver of the energy.

Hettie - I have already given information about my job and beliefs so you already know more about me than I do about you. No I won't tell you what my therapies are. However they are fairly mainstream complementary therapies. They are well known as complementary therapies NOT alternative therapie. If you can't see the difference then I am sorry. However no one has died from the therapies I offer because they are not perceived as ones you use without allopathic medicine. Anyway good, ethical therapist would never advise someone to not have medical treatment. However this is why I believe in compulsory regulation - so that it is regulated and so that dodgy therapists and poorly trained ones can not practise.

Matorana - you are right in that Aromatherapy is ONE of the things I offer. I have done a long training course in it - 3 years - and it takes the form of aromatherapy massage generally. I have studied the biochemistry of the essential oils, neuroscience, anatomy and physiology amongst many other things. I have a very good working knowledge of the chemicals in EO's and what they do. I know the research that is around on aromatherapy and know it's limitations. I know that some essential oil molecules are too big to be absorbed by the skin and I know the debates around how aromatherapy works. I know the role of the olfactory system and the limbic system in relation to aromatherapy.

I am merely telling you all this because I am a well qualified therapist and have never put my clients at risk and they do gain benefits from the aromatherapy and the massage. Although aromatherapy doesn't have a huge body of research it does have more than certain other therapies.