The Muslim Tearoom

[HardlyEverHoovers]

Salaams/peace to all! I'm already missing our old thread, so taking the bull by the horns and opening our very own Muslim Tearoom, all welcome (non-Muslims too of course), to chat, share, ask questions etc etc. Imagine a cosy cafe with floor cushions, tea and coffee of all kinds, and lovely cakes! Please join me!

[nailak]

I know a few people who were brought up by gps, someone i know is a twin so her gm brought her up and her bro wa brought up by dm, now when it is time to get married and stuff is causing issues. She has basically had to choose one over the other.

[nailak]

i find it weird wearing nail varnish, like advertising your on your period! lol but when i was pregnant i did.

[HardlyEverHoovers]

Haha, agree on the nail polish front, never wore it anyway as bite by nails and don't really want to draw attention to that! I'm slightly mystified by those little works of art people get put on their nails, if I had that I'd feel like I couldn't do anything with my hands.
Love having henna done though, don't suppose that's any different really.
How come you wore it when pregnant Nailak, don't get the connection?

[nailak]

someone say something slightly controversial, lets add spice to the tea! lol

[nailak]

yeah I have also come accross a few who call themselves the submitters, but it seems they believe in another messenger after Muhammad sas,, not a prophet a messenger. And they believe saying Muhammad sas name in shahadah is shirk, I am also interested in how they pray, calculate zakaat etc.

[nailak]

cote submission.org/

[nailak]

Due to a general unawareness of the fact that Abraham was the original messenger of Islam, many so-called Muslims challenge God: "If the Quran is complete and fully detailed (as claimed by God), where can we find the number of Rakahs (units) in each contact prayer (Salat)?" We learn from the Quran that all religious practices of Islam were already established before the Quran's revelation (8:35, 9:54, 16:123, 21:73, 22:27, 28:27). Verse 16:123 is direct proof that all religious practices in Islam were intact when Muhammad was born. Muhammad was enjoined to "follow the religion of Abraham." If I ask you to buy a color TV, it is assumed that you know what a color TV is. Similarly, when God enjoined Muhammad to follow the practices of Abraham (16:123), such practices must have been well known.<br /> <br /> Another proof of divine preservation of the Islamic practices given to Abraham is the "Universal Acceptance" of such practices. There is no dispute concerning the number of Rakahs in all five daily prayers. This proves the divine preservation of Salat. The Quran's mathematical code confirms the number of Rak`ahs in the five prayers 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4, respectively. The number 24434 is a multiple of 19.

The Quran deals only with practices that were distorted. For example, the distorted ablution is restored in 5:6 to its original four steps. The tone of voice during the contact prayers (Salat) was distorted - many Muslims pray silently. This was corrected in the Quran, 17:110. The fasting during Ramadan was modified in the Quran to allow intercourse during the night (2:187). Zakat is restored in 6:141, and Hajj is restored to the four correct months (see Appendix 15).

[HardlyEverHoovers]

As well as all the more obvious ways in which this seems to be wrong, without the hadith you cannot always understand the spirit in which the commands of the Quran are to be understood. For example for some of the 'controversial' (from a non-Muslim point of view) verses in the Qur'an that refer to the way women should be treated, or that refer to the unbelievers, you need the hadith to understand how those were applied at the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) to guide us to how they should be applied in our current situation.

[nailak]

Obviously I agree with you,

but have you ever seen a Jew Pray?

they also pray sunrise and sunset, even the recitation seems familiar. If you watch the vid they have the evidences of how to pray from previous scriptures.

They also seem to have some of the names of Allah.

Hajj was also done pre islam?

[peacefuloptimist]

Salamalaykum sisters

How are you all? Sorry to just jump in mid conversation but I really need advice. Im going on umrah end of May/beginning of June time (inshallah) and I am really undecided about taking my ds who will be 9 months old when we go. My DH thinks its a bad idea and is not safe for him to go. Any one had experience of taking a baby under the age of 1 on umrah? What did you find difficult or easy? In general anyone who has gone with young children what would you advise? I really don't want to leave him behind as I am breastfeeding him and would like to continue till he is at least 1 years old and am worried I will have to get him used to the bottle early in preparation for my departure. Im just going for 1 week by the way.

[nailak]

walaykum salaam

alhamdulillah you are going to umrah! There is a haj and umrah forum on www.ummah.com/forum where you will get lots of useful advice inshallah.

[LostAndNeverFound]

Salaam everyone, sorry for the hijack I haven't read the full thread since I last came on. I'm just sat in the labour ward waiting to be induced. Came for my fortnightly growth scan yesterday and he hasn't grown in two weeks and they wouldn't let me home, I was admitted straight away! I'll post once I've had him inshallah. Please pray for a safe delivery for me.

[HardlyEverHoovers]

Ooooh, very exciting lost, may Allah may it easy for you and bring you baby safely into the world, will be making dua for you.

[LostAndNeverFound]

Asalaam alaikum sisters. Is there room for one more in the tea room?! My lovely little boy was born today at 6pm. After a hideously slow induction followed by an hour labour! Marsallah he is gorgeous. Thanks for all your prayers.

[beeny]

Hi does anyone know a good app for teaching children namaaz?

[HardlyEverHoovers]

Mubarek Lost, may Allah make him one of those who knows Him, inshAllah, hope you are both well. I'm sure we have a baby corner in the tea room!