The Muslim Tearoom

[HardlyEverHoovers]

Salaams/peace to all! I'm already missing our old thread, so taking the bull by the horns and opening our very own Muslim Tearoom, all welcome (non-Muslims too of course), to chat, share, ask questions etc etc. Imagine a cosy cafe with floor cushions, tea and coffee of all kinds, and lovely cakes! Please join me!

[ButterflySandwich]

Thanks Crescent.

Re your DC potty training - I was advised to get rid of nappies completely during the day and let my DC have accidents. The problem with nappies are that they absorb so well, children can't feel when they have been and so don't learn the sensation of needing to go. It takes a couple of weeks of lots of accidents before they get it, and I did both my DC in the warmer months. Like my HV said, children don't start school in nappies, so they'll get there eventually lol!

My DS is 8 and just moved onto Qur'an, so proud of him. We gave biryiani and chocolates to the kids in the mosque yesterday and had his Imams over for dinner. My DH wants him to remember that day forever as special

So in his honour, I've asked my DS which is his favourite so far and he said Surah Zilzal because it sounds nice

[LittleTulip]

Good morning ladies,

Thanks peaceful for them links, love the idea of a Duaa book! As soon as I know a date you are all free to PM of course inshallah. On the topic of making Duaa for others, I always find it bizarre how a lot of people seem to take offence if you were to say to them 'I'll pray for you'. There are many such threads on mumsnet. Of course each to their own however I would be over the moon if somebody prayed for me!

Hope you are having a gentle weekend yummy. Crescentmoons tips on meeting people sound good.

As for this thread. Well I just assumed it would carry on. I am a relative newbie on mumsnet in general so will have to hunt for the old thread and have a gander. I guess I don't post as much as the others as like butterfly I just am not as knowledgable. However I love love love reading the thread and in all honesty all you ladies inspire me and have supported me through such a hard time in my life. The things I have learnt already and I have been passing this on to my sisters in RL. I don't have a problem with any of the topics be them political, nor the dry periods which really haven't been that long, in fact I thought the thread was flowing quite well. However, I understand that a few can not keep this thread going and like you crescentmoon I would also like to spend less time glaring at my phone in the new year, which I probably will do anyway going back to work!

On that note please say a little Duaa for me, I'm nervous about going to work in the new year after being off for so long.

[ThePearShapedToad]

Hello to everyone... I have heard about this thread from HQ occasionally .... Wondered if you could possibly comment on this thread about the marks and Spencer's changes brought into play today-

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1945820-Has-anyone-else-seen-this?msgid=43811752

It's not anger, mainly confusion- I thought maybe someone here would be able to clarify parts of the Qur'an?

Many thanks in advance

[ThePearShapedToad]

Sorry, bad linking www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1945820-Has-anyone-else-seen-this?msgid=43811752

[GoshAnneGorilla]

The pear - I am sure you are incredibly well meaning, but it does rather feel like you've come here to summon us to the other thread to explain ourselves on behalf of all Muslims.

[fuzzywuzzy]

You've heard about this thread from HQ?

You're attracting lots of comments on that thread, what do you want us to say?.

[ThePearShapedToad]

Hi fuzzy, yes, I have seen HQ direct other people here previously when they had questions about Islam- I didn't mean anything by "commanding" you to explain the viewpoint from all Muslims, I rather meant could someone who is better placed to understand the Qur'an confirm the differences about consuming / handling forbidden items

I didn't mean any offence, apologies if it was taken that way

[fuzzywuzzy]

If you want Islamic rulings on handling of non permissable products you'd need to consult a scholar.

I don't think there is anyone on this thread qualified to give those.

[ThePearShapedToad]

Ok, thank you for your time

[GoshAnneGorilla]

I've gone over there anyway.

I've not gone for the scholarly angle, more that I doubt this has come as a result of scores of Muslim demands and I doubt there will be anyone turned away in a queue.

[LittleTulip]

I agree with gosh.

I don't even want to look at the linked thread. Is it going to be another muslim/Islam bashing one?!

[fuzzywuzzy]

It's a them mozlamics taking over the world thread, hasn't been one in a while.

I'm sure if Muslim checkout assistants turned shoppers away from their tills we'd here about it on here. One of my favourite non-event threads was all about how a mozlamic assistant put on a disposable bag over her hands before putting thro pork products on the till....the audacity of her, cos all the other assistants carefully rub their hands all over the meat to ensure maximum possibility of contracting ecoli for the consumer. Fortunately common sense prevailed on that one.

[GoshAnneGorilla]

Ooh, I remember that one, it was started by someone who was obsessed, utterly fixated with all the bad things she reckoned Muslims supposedly did. MNHQ zapped it.

[fuzzywuzzy]

Sis cresecent have you thought of washable up-pants?

I used those on my eldest, my youngest potty trained herself whilst I was busy trying not to get too hysterical at the possibility of my eldest still being in nappies aged 18 (at one point I seriously thought the child would never get out of nappies, subhanallah)!

I have friends who keep dogs and also practice Islam quite successfully at the same time, one keeps a rottweiler cross (with some other breed), they keep him as a guard dog, but he's lovely.

I'm more a cat person, sadly my eldest is terrified of all animals, apparently they scare her when they move!

[UmmSHI]

I have also really enjoyed reading this thread and the previous one. I feel it would be selfish of me to expect the few sisters that have been keeping it going to do the same again for another 40 page thread. But i just wanted you all to know i appreciate your efforts and Allah reward you all because it has kept me going at times and inspired me. So thanks.

[defuse]

Why oh why do i go on those threads! I am feeling wound up already!

As for this thread, i really would love for it to continue too. I know it can be slow, but still like it being there. Quite like butterfly suggestion about different threads too.

Please dont go crescent.....forget Real life, we need you and fuzzy and peaceful and gosh and tulip and all the other lovely ladies saying little bits on here.

Ok, i am really fond of you guys though i dont know you in real life. Each one of you is really lovely. We dont all have the same views on stuff - crescent sis is more inclined towards the sufi side i gather (with mawlid and the occasional reference to wahabi stuff . ). i am more towards islam-qa.com but i am not fussed whether you hold the exact same opinions on stuff that i do, i am more bothered that we can share what islam is all about and keep my imaan strong at times when it may feel weak. I think i would miss you all

[fuzzywuzzy]

I'm leaving those threads alone, it's utterly ridiculous! I actually find it hilarious that a very Jewish corporation is being accused of being mozlamic and PC gorn mad, next M&S will be cancelling christmas to keep their mozlem workers happy.

How's about when this thread ends, one of the sisters starts a new one with a topic and give us a prod to take a look and we can do new ones for different things, Islamic philosophy, books, fiqh questions, we need a ramadan one when it comes around again, a recipe one etc etc?

I do enjoy learning of differing Islamic views, I find the different schools of thought very interesting there's something worth taking on board from each.

[LittleTulip]

Yes defuse I would miss everybody too i look forward to reading this thread every day and Subhanallah it's had such a good influence on me I genuinely would miss it. I mean I actually prayed salah in TK Maxx the other day!!

On the topic of the Prophet Muhammeds birthday, it's celebrated quite a lot in my parents home town, most people decorate their homes, there are lots of events on, juloos, and it is generally lovely! There isn't a muslim community where I am, but always try and visit around milad un nabi. Some of my other cousins aren't into the whole decorating thing though it is just accepted the same.

I have also started saying my duaa's by firstly thanking and praising Allah, praying for the Prophet Muhammed, making Duaa for me/family/friends etc then again for the Prophet then thanking Allah. Although regimented it defo feels more complete and I don't feel as selfish that's it's all about me, so thanks for that tip!

Crescent your story about your son makes me laugh, it reminds me of my nephew when he was potty training. When on the toilet he attempted to pull his poo out of his bottom with his hands, loudly declaring whilst straining 'IT'S NOT COMING OUT AUNTIE TULIP!!!'

[peacefuloptimist]

Salams all

Another vote here for continuing the thread. I know its hard work to make it continue but I have really benefited from it too. I actually love all the topic changes on this one thread. For me I find the chats about parenting where everyone contributes most interesting. My son is really young and I find it fascinating terrifying to read about whats coming. I think we all can benefit from each others collective experience and knowledge. So for that reason I vote we continue the thread.

The thing I like the most is that we are all of different opinions but can still get on. I really feel we practice this verse of the Quran.

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves." Holy Quran 3:103

I think this is a good example of how Muslims should respect eachothers differences and still support and be united with eachother. I feel everyone has something to contribute and represents a voice or strand of thinking. Even Cote (though I know she would deny it vehemently ) represents the secular muslim opinion. It would be nice to have this resource to access and dip in and out of when we need it.

[UmmSHI]

If a new thread is started, inshaallah i'll try to contribute a bit more, sometimes life takes over with three children but i like the idea of different threads for different topics, then it is easier to contribute to if people are away for a while.

That is such a beautiful verse peaceful. I am also a bit more of an islam-qa muslim than a sufi, but i love reading everyones opinions.

I read a little of that m and s thread, but like all of you, i just despair and have to stop reading. I think anything that muslims say to defend themselves falls on deaf ears anyway, that is why i prefer the haven that is this thread. It's nice to get away from all the criticism, and the i'm not racist but... i have muslim friends... etc.

Going to have a read of that guardian article now, thanks.

[ButterflySandwich]

Umm I had to say something on that thread. It was the poster who was Muslim themself that was the most offensive and I reported them for incitement to hatred. I think that unless you challenge people on their ignorant and unsubstantiated comments, it could lead to their views being taken as correct by other readers. Sorry, I do feel strongly about that!

[fuzzywuzzy]

I find it strange how all of a sudden so many Islam hating mmozlamic posters pop up on these threads....Myself I'm an Ewok, and I hate starwars.