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Hallelujah He is Here - Chataway

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DutchOma · 19/01/2012 17:24

Well here you are then Smile I don't post often, but just to save Nickel a job...

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marmiteandhoney · 29/01/2012 20:16

TUO- great news!

I'm working on dh to do another admitting children to communion course this spring. Our oldest was admitted to communion last Easter (aged 7), and Isaac is desperate and always has been to recieve, and was seven today. So hopefully he'll be able to this year.

Lovely husband is making me omelette :)

madhairday · 30/01/2012 11:32

Our dc were admitted at 7 too marmite, a lot of churches I think do this now. I am in full favour of it

gingercurl · 30/01/2012 11:49

Oh dear, MHD. Sad
Praying as I read through.

gingercurl · 30/01/2012 11:50

Sorry, wrong thread Blush. That's be problem with having more than one window open at the same time.
Still praying for you, though, MHD.

nickelhasababy · 30/01/2012 13:26

it's not early for candlemas - it's the correct date in cofe lectionary

nickelhasababy · 30/01/2012 13:30

TUO - JC1 started to pretend to clap as a windup - i gave him the stare.
Others (congregation) may clap if they wish (and they did). Choristers must maintain their posture at all times.

actually, it makes it a bit more fun because we raise our eyes and jokily snide at those who clap.
=We have a proper joke about it. Grin
all in good fun.
GrinWink

Bluetinkerbell · 30/01/2012 13:30

hehe I know nickel :)
But it would have been closer on the Sunday following! The service was great btw! :)

I'm away from Friday to Sunday to the Children and Family Ministry Conference in Eastbourne. I'm very excited Grin (and secretly wondering how DH will cope with DD all weeknd Wink)

nickelhasababy · 30/01/2012 13:32

bloody hell mhd I hope you speedily recover. :(

nickelhasababy · 30/01/2012 13:38

we had a bit of a disasterous service anyway.
First JC2 dropped his music while we processing, so i stooped to pick it up. stupid tenor stopped dead and dithered around behind me, blocking the rest of the choir, instead of just carrying on, so it made a right mess. Hmm

there was a "visitor" in the congregation who had a lovely (if a little loud and not watching the conductor!) tenor voice. He said he was just visiting and i reckon he was put off by our lack of decorum...
Blush

and there was quite a bit of kerfuffle.
we did when to the temple mary went (eccard) as our anthem, and it always drops, so I know it must have sounded hideous.

DutchOma · 30/01/2012 15:56

Nickel how did Eleanor get on at the hospital?

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nickelhasababy · 30/01/2012 16:52

It was all fine, thank you for asking :)

She had to lie on the couch (which looked huge in comparison with her!) and have each hip scanned in turn.
They said to undo the side of her nappy, but it was just as easy to take the whole thing off, so she weed on the couch (thankfully they put an absorbent sheet thing down!) and all over her vest.
But her hips are fine.

DutchOma · 30/01/2012 19:43

So, by the sound of it, is her weeing mechanism

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nickelhasababy · 31/01/2012 10:47
Grin

she loves weeing! Grin

Bluetinkerbell · 31/01/2012 16:38

just returned from my meeting with my vocations adviser, it went really well, I drove home with a big Grin on my face.

thejaffacakesareonme · 31/01/2012 20:42

Great news Blue.

TotallyUnheardOf · 31/01/2012 22:41

That's fantastic, Blue! I am so pleased. Do you want to tell us more? [nosy] [but also genuinely interested] Grin

Good news about Eleanor's hips, too, Nickel. And fantastic weeing! Grin

Oh, yes, I am very Grin-y tonight. I haven't been on the Gin again, honest... The HR people finally saw sense (after I took it to the highest authority that I dared to approach - following an initial 'no') and removed my colleague from the interview panel. Joy! So now I can go and perform to the best of my ability... and if it's where God wants me to be, I believe He'll enable me to make the right decision, if it comes to that.

So... (dense question coming up) is admission to communion like a sort of halfway house between baptism and confirmation? In the US (Episcopal Church, so still Anglican) anyone who was baptised was free to take communion if they wanted to. I was a bit Shock at first at little kids of about 3 taking communion, but actually I think it's lovely and not at all inappropriate.

DD1 has a Guides parade on Sunday in the HC church near us. I am torn between wanting to take DD2 to the cathedral as normal where we will be safe from clapping and smiley faces in the order of service, and wanting to support and encourage DD1. I need to get over myself and go and encourage DD1, don't I? I know I do, but... but...!

TotallyUnheardOf · 31/01/2012 22:42

PS MHD, get well soon.

DutchOma · 01/02/2012 07:25

TUO Yes you do need to go and support dd1. Don't be silly, the cathedral will still be there next week. Your dd1 may have lost interest in it if you don't support her this week.

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Bluetinkerbell · 01/02/2012 09:52

hehe TuO what would you like to know? Wink I've been giving two tasks. Need to write an A4 about a book I've been reading about priesthood.
The second task is taking up daily prayer time with my DH.
I've been trying to do common worship morning and evening prayer on my own, but I struggle with it. I told her about it, and she said I don't have to feel obliged to do it, and can do what feels more natural to me, what is in my spirituality. So she suggested we do a Taizé style prayer. Now it is finding the right time to actually do it... Any suggestions?

niminypiminy · 01/02/2012 10:47

TUO at our church all children who have been baptised take communion (actually our vicar is a bit fast and loose with canon law so he keeps an 'open table' anyone can have communion if they want to). I think children having communion can be lovely, though I think they ought to be helped to understand what it means, in an age-appropriate way, of course our vicar doesn't seem to think that's important Hmm.

Wow, Bluetinkerbell it sounds like your vocations adviser meeting was great. I did have tasks to do, but it was more like having to think about questions (eg what do you think your gifts are, that one was really hard) than read books and write things.

I try and do morning prayer when I've come back from taking the kids to school. When they're on holiday I try and find 10 mins to do prayer during the day. But it doesn't work every day ... I try not to worry about it too much though.

I've just written my reflections on the discernment process so far and that's going off to the DDO, now I have to wait for the next step...

Bluetinkerbell · 01/02/2012 10:58

how long did your discernment process take niminypiminy? My vocations adviser told me yesterday she is retiring in September! But I don't know whether that means she finishes before that or if she will still continue advising people.

That does sound like a good time to do morning prayer.
I'm thinking of doing that too and was thinking of doing evening prayer at 7pm with the whole family just before DD goes to bed, as I would like to include her too.
It won't always work as I do have evening meetings sometimes, but then we will just have to skip it or just me and DH do it later on in the evening.

niminypiminy · 01/02/2012 11:13

It took roughly six months, so I think you should be through it by the time she retires! But she might carry on advising people anyway, especially as you are 'in the system' as it were.

I don't know if all dioceses operate the same system, but in this one you are seen by the vocations adviser first to a) check that you are not mad b) clarify in your own mind what ministry your vocation is calling you to. The VA isn't part of the selection procedure so once you have decided that you want to go into discernment pt 2/selection for ordination training you get passed onto the DDO.

TotallyUnheardOf · 01/02/2012 21:54

That sounds good Blue. It sounds as if she's really trying to support you and guide you in a way that is right for you, rather than just kind of telling you what to do. Hooray!

Oma... I know you're right. I am praying that by going outside of my comfort zone, I may be able to experience God in a way that I wouldn't have expected (does that make sense?). It's not about the music (that's just a running joke), but more the language, I think that makes me feel uncomfortable (I think it's the attempt to be 'relevant' which I experience as patronising...); that, and the fact that I really like to take communion. But it's just one week, and the fact that DD1 wants to go is really important to me. Much more important than anything else....

Niminy, I guess I would see parents taking their (very) young children up for communion as being a bit like the parents and godparents speaking for the child in the baptism service. Even if the child doesn't understand the significance, they are being enabled to share in what the Eucharist means... But... I don't know if I am making sense. I hadn't really thought of it till now - just trying to think it through.

DutchOma · 02/02/2012 07:43

TUO I understand precisely what you mean with being in a HC church. Very glad that you have decided to go and yes, maybe God will speak to you in a way you would never have expected. When all is said and done, being a Christian is 'dying to self, to live in Christ'; comfort zone doesn't come into it

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