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Hallelujah He is Here - Chataway

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DutchOma · 19/01/2012 17:24

Well here you are then Smile I don't post often, but just to save Nickel a job...

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marmiteandhoney · 06/02/2012 10:00

I think it's nice to have some idea of the words, but you certainly don't have to identify every word they're singing the moment they sing them. Nickel- that sounds lovely; well done for managing it despite the snow!

I went along to see the choir (and my eldest- the 8 year old) singing Britten's St. Nicholas, which was fab, especially with all the snow whirling past the church windows. They managed the whole programme (had a paid strings orchestra too) with some other bits in the first half, but no time for an interval so we could get home before we got snowed in!

I do like a bit of Britten, despite it being desperately un-trendy. I was a mouse in Noyes Fludde in church as a very small child (maybe 3 or 4?), and can still remember creeping up the aisle singing, 'Kyrie, kyrie, kyrie eleison' :)

We didn't manage to get her to church in time to sing yesterday morning, though. Choir master not too impressed, but heck, I had four to get out of the house and it took ages and ages and ages to get them all salopetted/snow booted/gloved/hatted etc. so we arrived in the first hymn.

nickelhasababy · 06/02/2012 11:03

what a silly opinion! what about music that doesn't have words? Confused
besides which, if you need to know the words, then go home and look them up.
or ask the choirmaster.
a lot of the english words aren't even translations- they're just similar themed words that fit the music.

nickelhasababy · 06/02/2012 11:04

we did a britten last week or the week before..

HallelujahHeisBorntoMary · 06/02/2012 11:21

We sing Locus Iste sometimes too, its beautiful.

DD will be taking the Dean's Bronze Award for music, on 25th - not a lot of time to prepare Shock. Tried to help her with the psalm last night, but she knows best, despite never having been to Evensnog Hmm. Oh well, if she struggles, then her choir mistress will pick up beforehand I guess...

nickelhasababy · 06/02/2012 12:18

wow, that's exciting Grin

I really really want to do the Dean's Award, but i'm too scared.
I've never ever done an oral exam, so I'm convinced I would fail it, and I don't think it looks good for an adult to fail something like that.

nickelhasababy · 06/02/2012 12:19

the best hints for a psalm is to sing every other syllable punchy.
Grin

HallelujahHeisBorntoMary · 06/02/2012 16:02

If you really want to do it, you just have to go for it, and not worry about what people think. From what I've seen, and from what I know of you, you'd walk it!

LOL at psalm! :o

nickelhasababy · 06/02/2012 16:36

I get nervous under pressure. Blush

creatovator · 06/02/2012 18:12

Ooooh! I didn't know you were all here. Can I join in?

DutchOma · 06/02/2012 21:25

OOOOh a new person, how wonderful. And a Creator to boot.

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TotallyUnheardOf · 06/02/2012 22:23

Bother... typed a long message and then the ether ate it! Will have to do short version, as I have work to mark...! (Boo!)

Managed to get two DDs to two different churches at the same time yesterday, despite the snow (not too much up here, thankfully).

I think that the power of music transcends mere language.

Hello Creatovator... welcome!

nickelhasababy · 07/02/2012 12:08

welcome to the thread Creatovator - do feel free to lurk or loudly join in, whichever you feel.

The standard questions to newbies are:
Do you like Graham Kendrick? (correct answer is no, but you can whisper yes if you really need to) Grin
Do you go to church regularly?
if so, what kind?
what's your worshippy style?
etc etc
Grin

nickelhasababy · 07/02/2012 12:09

exactly what I think TUO - music was around before speech, and it speaks to anyone in the world, even if they don't speak the same language you do.
It's very powerful, and has a much better way of getting across your message than words.

HallelujahHeisBorntoMary · 07/02/2012 12:52

Hello creatovator :) and welcome :)

Just had my first appraisal and ministry view with my new incumbent - so much more easy going and relaxed than previous years :). AND good coffee :)

newlark · 07/02/2012 14:47

We had about 50% congregation on Sunday - we were late due to trying to stop dc's playing with the snow en route :). I seem to be volunteering myself to form a lent book group which would be exciting/scary - our church has a lot of evening home groups which will be studying a particular book in lent and I've suggested forming a daytime book group so that those of us who can't be in an evening group can join in while children are at school...

nickelhasababy · 07/02/2012 15:34

50%'s good Grin
we had about 10 in the congregation, add the choir and reader/churchwarden (one couldn't mak it cos she lives in the middle of nowhere!)

creatovator · 07/02/2012 16:24

Thanks for the welcome everyone.

No I don't really like Graham Kendrick's stuff though, don't tell anyone, but I used to (confession no. 1) Grin.

I go to church each week. It's a very non-traditional Church of Scotland that meets in a community centre. We rent a building from the council where we have offices, counselling rooms, a prayer room, and a couple of small halls for other meetings. We have some small groups, none of which I attend for various reasons from including not being able to get out some evenings. We're a church planting church, so I was interested in the comment about a missional community that someone made.

Our worship is quite relaxed with lots of sung worship at the beginning of the service, with people sometimes doing prophetic art (painting), flag waving, room for dancing at the back. There's space for the younger kids to play at the back too.

Sorry, I'm prattling on a bit. Will stop now Smile.

nickelhasababy · 07/02/2012 16:29

yes! another one on my side

ooh, that sounds interesting. HC (happy clappy) a bit, but also modern and progressive.

nickelhasababy · 07/02/2012 16:29

we don't mind prattling Grin

creatovator · 07/02/2012 16:31

Hallelujah and Newlark thanks for adding to the good news stories.

creatovator · 07/02/2012 16:36

Just posted a message and it disappeared Confused.

x post Nickel

Yes, that's definitely what we're like.

Don't encourage me to prattle too much. I can be very good at it.

What's your worship like?

nickelhasababy · 07/02/2012 16:53

Grin it keeps the thread flowing.

I'm traditional- more of th e we don't want that here thank you
Grin

I am perfectly as ease with all forms of worship, but church is church.
other forms of worship aren't church Grin

That sounds odd, I know what i mean! I can go to other services at other churches, and they can be totally different, and I can enjoy them wonderfully well, but at my church it has to be choir and organ and old style. :)

Bluetinkerbell · 07/02/2012 17:43

I went to the Children's and Families Ministries conference this weekend and had a very emotional moment with this song The tears were just streaming down my face...

niminypiminy · 08/02/2012 06:08

You didn't ask me the newbie questions but I thought I would answer them anyway

Do you like Graham Kendrick? (correct answer is no, but you can whisper yes if you really need to): Not particularly but there are worse things in the world of church music ("God's love is big, God's love is great. God's love is fab and He's my mate" we sing that one regularly )
Do you go to church regularly? Yes, and lead Sunday school too (not what I feel drawn to particularly but there is noone else to do it)
if so, what kind? CofE, vicar styles himself 'open evangelical'; it's a scruffy modern building in the middle of a council estate in a city which is full of Grade 1 listed eccelsiastical architecture, choral evensongs everywhere you look etc etc
what's your worshippy style? Not sure it it's quite my worshippy style, iyswim, but it's what we do: happy clappy, liturgy-light, children waving flags and so forth, singing modern worship songs along to CDs. It sounds grim, doesn't it?
It would be except that somehow it's very compelling. The one thing I think we do well is stay with the mess and imperfection of it all and manage to welcome and love all kinds of black sheep.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind if we went a bit higher up the candle, and turned the cd player off sometimes Wink

nickelhasababy · 08/02/2012 11:03

we kind of roundabout asked them Grin

oh, God would cry if he could tell you what he thought of that!
"he's my mate ?" [groan]
Shock

#you pooor thing :(
Sounds like a make-do.
Still, if it's your church family, then it's all good :)