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Really moved by reaction of faithful to the Pope.

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bamboostalks · 17/09/2010 08:29

Realise that there is a huge amount of negativity and vitriol on here atm with regards to the Pope's visit. However mumsnet is for all and there are plenty of Catholics who are pleased to see him here. This is a thread to celebrate this. I was really moved at the reaction of people in Glasgow yesterday. It was so emotional to see the babies hepd up for his blessing, he really did radiate a serene presence. Love his message as well, it is time to be proud to be a Christian. Hope all those going to see him have a fantastic time.

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MaryBS · 17/09/2010 19:16

Zepherine, if you want Papal souvenirs, you should see here:

www.ship-of-fools.com/gadgets/index.html

If you click on each of them, there's usually a fuller description :o

daftpunk · 17/09/2010 19:16

Exo; the news coverage has been fantastic. I'm off to vauxhall tomorrow to try and get a glimpse. ( fingers crossed )

ZephirineDrouhin · 17/09/2010 19:24

Ah yes, Mary. Love the "mass kit". I remember as a small child administering holy communion in the form of flying saucers to my teddy bears (before eating them all myself, natch). If only I'd had a mass kit I might still be one of the faithful today.

Exogenesis · 17/09/2010 19:25

Ohh Daft you are brave. I'd really love to but, not sure DD's tummy will be better. I'm again suprised at how upset I am that I am unable to take part. I'd love to go see him do you know where I can find tommorows route? just incase DD is better.

bamboostalks · 17/09/2010 19:31

The Sky coverage has been great.

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jaffacakeaddict · 17/09/2010 19:45

I saw the Pope yesterday. He was passing by the end of our street and it just seemed right to go out to see him. I'm not sure why, but I'm glad I did. I'm not Catholic, but I'm glad the Pope is visiting the UK. I appreciate that it means a lot to Catholics. In a wider sense, it is stirring up debate about Christianity, which can only be a good thing. For what it is worth, I suspect that there is a lot of ignorance about the differences between catholics and protestants and that we are a lot closer than most people think.

bamboostalks · 17/09/2010 19:58

There is far more that unites us than separates us jaffa.

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Exogenesis · 17/09/2010 19:59

Agree with Bamboo Grin

BilboBloggins · 17/09/2010 20:10

God Bless the Pope. Bellahouston was amazing yesterday - a truly electric atmosphere. I am so proud to have been part of the congregation. I can't even describe what it felt like yesterday. I have never felt like that before - I hope it won't be the last time in my life a pontiff comes to Scotland.

Aitch · 17/09/2010 20:10

i've found the whole thing surprisingly moving, and think the coverage has been very measured and appropriate. (peter tatchell aside, what a piece of shit programme that was). however, not even the holy father himself could begin to explain to me how daftpunk can be so cross about a weeny thread hijack... Grin

ZephirineDrouhin · 17/09/2010 20:15

I don't know why, but I don't think I've been this unmoved since Princess Diana's funeral.

ColdComfortFarm · 17/09/2010 20:19

how on earth can anyone be uplifted by the arrival of a nasty little bigot like this on our shores. The pope disgusts me. How the head of one of the biggest peadophile networks in the entire world dares to lecture anyone on morality defies belief.

SauvignonBlanche · 17/09/2010 20:20

It's lovely and very moving!

BilboBloggins · 17/09/2010 20:23

Ok so some people don't find it moving and are scraping the bottom of the barrel with the name-calling, but I was moved! I loved it! I am not ashamed to stand up and say it.

Aitch · 17/09/2010 20:28

it's a good question, ccf, and one that bears thinking about. i suppose it's the difference between him as a representative of god and as a man. very difficult to put into words, i think.

Dione · 17/09/2010 20:59

Really moving scenes with Rowan Williams. Brilliant, really brilliant.

ZephirineDrouhin · 17/09/2010 22:05

They were very well behaved weren't they? No mention of that nasty business last year when the pope tried to poach all the C of E's more homophobic and misogynist priests.

tautliner · 17/09/2010 22:06

You know what, since the inception of this murky, mixed up coalition of a government there has been a certain inertia about life in general. The most annoying thing to me about the "Protest the pope" has been the grammatical shortcomings of that statement - "protest about the forthcoming visit of the pope" FGS but don't "Protest the Pope".

I happen to think that people so played down the visit of someone quite historic (whether you think he is a Holy man or Protectorate of Paedophilic men of cloth") that it was quite pleasantly surprising to see people of faith lining roads and generally being uplifted.

I was brought up to believe that any Christian who wasn't a Catholic was a sad sack of a Christian who had been manipulated by an English king who wanted a divorce. I think we all enjoy pomp in Great Britain and the news coverage attests to this.

Hurrah, it gives the news something to report, it brings Tony Blair and Gordon Brown together, the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh come out together and do something and Daftpunk and Aitch and reunited in a thread. Sweet Grin

mamatomany · 17/09/2010 22:22

I know His visit has made me a stronger catholic

I cannot wait to quote that back to you in months to come when you are displaying the tolerance and Christian compassion you are renowned for on MN Grin

WinkyWinkola · 17/09/2010 22:25

Not at all moved. I'm amazed by the level of social control the church exerts on people.

Why aren't people furious about the hiding therefore approval of paedophile priests?

I don't get it. I can't get past the crimes against the Catholic children over the decades and the nerve of the Pope to even suggest what moral codes by which people should live their lives.

Clean out your own backyard first, dearie. Or let he who is without sin... ... ... ..

Thank GOD for secularism. (-;

Dione · 17/09/2010 23:15

Winky, they are. Haven't you noticed? It was extensively discussed by victim's groups and the media in the run up to as well as during the visit. There have also been multiple threads here on it.

Aitch · 17/09/2010 23:19

totally agree with you winky, and yet... was still moved.

TechLovingDad · 17/09/2010 23:23

I've been moved, to anger. My views aside, I would really be interested to hear a coherent defence of the Pope's position, from a committed Catholic.

As Christ's emmisary on earth, surely he should pay attention to Christ's teachings?

blinks · 18/09/2010 00:09

here is the 1962 Vatican document Crimen Sollicitationis outlining the Vatican's strict instructions on covering up sex abuse scandals. The document was sent by Pope Benedict when he was a Cardinal.

He personally encouraged that sexually abusive priests be moved on from one parish to another, rather than notifying the authorities of the abuse.

spiritmum · 18/09/2010 07:01

I'm moved by the reaction of the faithful, not the Pope himself.

Obviously my Catholic genes stirring, even though I'm not and have never been one.

I agree with aitch, it is so wrong, but still, deeply moving.