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To ask you to sign this petition to tax wealth rather than attacking the most vulnerable members of society?

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QuestionableMouse · 15/04/2025 18:22

https://www.change.org/p/tax-wealth-don-t-cut-disability-support

I've signed it.

If the cuts do ahead thousands of people are going to be badly affected (me included due to long COVID which has left me chroniclly unwell)

Sign the Petition

TAX WEALTH – DON'T CUT DISABILITY SUPPORT

https://www.change.org/p/tax-wealth-don-t-cut-disability-support

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Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 08:33

Julen7 · 22/04/2025 08:25

The problem is if the PIP and LCWRA go people will be needing to get back to some sort of employment

The benefits bill must must come down. That means less people on those benefits. Maybe means testing will need to be considered. Or a complete overhaul on what disability means.

JustLikeThatBluebird · 22/04/2025 08:51

Yellowshirt · 22/04/2025 02:17

I don't no what experience and qualifications you have.
I don't want to work 60 hours a week getting up at 4am some days but needs must if I want to own a house one day.
Look on the local council website. They have lots. Litter pickers , Gardeners, binmen, drivers right upto management.

All jobs that disabled people can definitely do. Thanks so much for your thoughtful suggestions.

@QuestionableMouse I would stop engaging if I were you, these posters are not commenting in good faith. The proposed disability cuts and subsequent discussions have really opened my eyes to what people really think of the disabled.

Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 09:06

JustLikeThatBluebird · 22/04/2025 08:51

All jobs that disabled people can definitely do. Thanks so much for your thoughtful suggestions.

@QuestionableMouse I would stop engaging if I were you, these posters are not commenting in good faith. The proposed disability cuts and subsequent discussions have really opened my eyes to what people really think of the disabled.

That is totally untrue. Most people have every sympathy and wish to support disabled people. But not the system that is in place now. A complete rethink is needed.

JustLikeThatBluebird · 22/04/2025 09:14

Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 09:06

That is totally untrue. Most people have every sympathy and wish to support disabled people. But not the system that is in place now. A complete rethink is needed.

Suggesting that someone who is too ill to work should consider a job litter-picking or in refuse collection because they're worried about making ends meet is not engaging in good faith. Being too ill to work is an awful place to be. I'm not in that place any more but I was a few years ago, I wouldn't wish it on anyone though I do wish some posters could gain even a little insight as it might activate their under-exercised empathy muscles.

Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 09:32

Too ill to work? What exactly does that even mean. Nothing much these days.

JustLikeThatBluebird · 22/04/2025 09:37

Anyone who claims to not understand is being disingenuous.

Anyway, I'm off to London for a big interview so I'm now disengaging. A couple of years ago I was too ill to work (you know, too unwell to do any kind of work for any amount of hours), now I've recovered to the extent I could even apply for this position and get an interview so I feel like I've already won whatever the outcome.

QuestionableMouse · 22/04/2025 11:15

JustLikeThatBluebird · 22/04/2025 09:37

Anyone who claims to not understand is being disingenuous.

Anyway, I'm off to London for a big interview so I'm now disengaging. A couple of years ago I was too ill to work (you know, too unwell to do any kind of work for any amount of hours), now I've recovered to the extent I could even apply for this position and get an interview so I feel like I've already won whatever the outcome.

Best of luck! 💐🤞🏻🤞🏻

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Tryingtokeepgoing · 22/04/2025 11:16

WeylandYutani · 21/04/2025 21:17

Sorry but I don't believe you.
Greggs wages are available online. Managers are on £19ph (£35k a year) Your 17 year old nephew is not on £22ph. No one at Greggs is on that much.

Yesterday was bank holiday, so I imagine with a bit of overtime £22 an hour is easily achievable. It’s only £14.60 at time and a half…

edited to say, oops, missed the PPs update confirming it was an overtime rate. 👍

QuestionableMouse · 22/04/2025 18:14

JustLikeThatBluebird · 22/04/2025 09:37

Anyone who claims to not understand is being disingenuous.

Anyway, I'm off to London for a big interview so I'm now disengaging. A couple of years ago I was too ill to work (you know, too unwell to do any kind of work for any amount of hours), now I've recovered to the extent I could even apply for this position and get an interview so I feel like I've already won whatever the outcome.

I hope your interview went well! 🥳

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JustLikeThatBluebird · 23/04/2025 17:45

QuestionableMouse · 22/04/2025 18:14

I hope your interview went well! 🥳

It did, thank you! It'll be a while before I hear the outcome, which gives me lots of time to over-analyse all my answers to questions and focus on the ones where I didn't answer as well as I would have liked 😂

WeylandYutani · 24/04/2025 19:30

Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 09:32

Too ill to work? What exactly does that even mean. Nothing much these days.

It is between the claimant, their GP and the DWP. Not anyone elses business.
Where are all these jobs anyway? Able bodied people are struggling to find work. The amount of people on job seeking benefits vastly outnumbers the amount of vacancies available.

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Badbadbunny · 27/04/2025 06:48

Have those wanting to tax the rich more seen the statistics showing CGT income for the last year actually fell despite the rates being increased! That shows the impact of “rich” people leaving the UK! Less tax revenue to pay your benefits!

QuestionableMouse · 27/04/2025 11:28

What an odd response to that post.

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Tryingtokeepgoing · 27/04/2025 11:33

QuestionableMouse · 27/04/2025 11:28

What an odd response to that post.

Isn’t it more likely to be a response to the question posed in the thread title, based on the content and the fact that your latest post (interesting link btw) was not quoted? That’s how I interpreted it :)

edited for clarity

Julen7 · 27/04/2025 11:48

QuestionableMouse · 27/04/2025 11:28

What an odd response to that post.

It’s a response to the thread title

taxguru · 27/04/2025 12:02

A bit like how income tax receipts fell when Labour increased the highest rate of income tax to 50% and increased when the Tories reduced it to 45%.

We have to stop killing the golden geese.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 27/04/2025 12:17

taxguru · 27/04/2025 12:02

A bit like how income tax receipts fell when Labour increased the highest rate of income tax to 50% and increased when the Tories reduced it to 45%.

We have to stop killing the golden geese.

Exactly. And the point raised by @Badbadbunny is even more serious, because CGT receipts fell £1.5 billion as people left the country in anticipation of an increase in CGT rates. The new rates have only just come into effect, so the cost to HMRC is the current tax year will be much much higher. Except that as asset prices have fallen following the budget and, more importantly, Trumps trade war, the fall will be spun as ‘not because of higher rates, but events’ ;)

Badbadbunny · 27/04/2025 16:57

Tryingtokeepgoing · 27/04/2025 12:17

Exactly. And the point raised by @Badbadbunny is even more serious, because CGT receipts fell £1.5 billion as people left the country in anticipation of an increase in CGT rates. The new rates have only just come into effect, so the cost to HMRC is the current tax year will be much much higher. Except that as asset prices have fallen following the budget and, more importantly, Trumps trade war, the fall will be spun as ‘not because of higher rates, but events’ ;)

Let's not forget that Gordon Brown made "sweetheart" deals (i.e. special "off the record" informal law changes/dispensations) to encourage international firms to set up in the UK and also sports stars to come for the London Olympics. These were special rates/rules that weren't available to anyone else. That is proof enough that an unattractive tax regime keeps people and firms out of the UK. We really shouldn't have to give informal dispensations/reliefs to certain firms/people that aren't available to all, just to "incentivise" them to come to the UK!

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