Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

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In six hours, this is unstoppable-please sign and share
https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

@CaptainRedbeardandbigbadbarry Labour got 33.7% of the popular vote, not 16% as you have stated. election2024.electoral-reform.org.uk

If you don't like First Past the Post and believe it to be undemocratic, I hope you are campaigning for changes to our electoral system.

So why not start a petition to change FPTP?

It would probably be more constructive.

Well where is the petition for that if people care so much about democracy?

Hilarious how people put up with criminal incompetence for over a decade but have given the new government less than 6 months to fix everything, even more so given the last lot went about actively ruining as much as possible on their way out of the door.

The only way id support a general election now, is if every single previous tory MP was prohibited from standing for election.

This. If ever we needed a coalition govt, it is now.

Stop the zigzagging and steer a moderate path.

Farmers who bled the EU subsidies dry for decades yet supported Brexit? no sympathy at all.
Did people think years of Tory mismanagement and again draining every penny would miraculously change overnight ?
I actually despair of how dim so many are.

There's already an active movement, 'Make Votes Matter', working on this.

We've just had a general election & Labour win with a landslide. You can't petition for another because you don't like the result. You need to wait until the next one is called.

I most definitely did not like the result of the 2019 election & found the following 5 years awful but I would never have petitioned for another!

At this moment in time sadly none of them .

Democratically elected ? What, on a 16% share of voters - less than Corbyn got ? 🤣

That is hilarious.

Sorry, do you think someone else won the election? They were democratically elected by the system we have. You can argue to change the system but they won within the rules that there are.

This is like arguing that Trump didn't win because Clinton got more votes - she did, but that isn't how it works so she didn't win.

Also they got 34% of the vote. Yes, 16% of the electorate but if nearly half didn't bother to vote, that's really on them if they don't like the result.

I've no idea of your general politics obviously, but I do find the sudden general dislike for the electoral system amongst Tory voters amusing. They've suddenly decided that it's unfair that vote share doesn't equate to number of MPs? It didn't bother them when it helped them and disadvantaged smaller parties like the Greens.

The carbon tax was introduced by the Conservatives under Sunak https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-uk-levy-to-level-carbon-pricing

There's not going to be a general election. I don't expect Labour to fix things in six months, but they've made a terrible start. I had hoped Wes Streeting would reform the NHS with such a big majority but its all gimmicks, consultation and let's throw more money at it. And Starmer's never here!

"unstoppable". Not even 0.5% of the population. And how many of them are even in the UK?
Petitioning the government on anything is a pointless exercise.

Anyone whinging on about what % of the country voted for Labour are strangely silent on the point that an even lower % voted for any other party.

If anti-Labour threads are by Tory HQ, were all the anti-Tory ones by Labour HQ? Labour aren't above criticism and they're certainly not the 'grown-ups'. The claim upthread that they're looking after the most vulnerable is laughable - in reality we're being punished and the people I care for are terrified of Reeves and Kendall and their crackdown on disability benefits.

I think the petition is silly. But I also think there's a massive strain of hypocrisy. After the Brexit vote there was a widespread campaign to overturn the result and there are even comments on here condemning the petition but saying the referendum should be overturned (I voted Remain but it was 8 1/2 years ago and the truth is it made no difference). I can also remember the protests after the Tories won in 2019 which included one particularly charming posh trainee doctor screeching that Johnson should die in agony. Then there are all the riots against Trump which may stop short of storming the Capitol but they are violent and dangerous, plus a lot of people are actively hoping he gets assassinated. The petition is extremely civilised in comparison (and not misuse of the system either).

I'm not. I think everyone lost the last election, Labour just lost it the least.

I am not a Tory. And I most certainly am not a Labour voter either.

This site is notoriously left wing so anyone who disagrees or has a different view on Labour’s policies immediately gets pounced on. I am entitled to say that I am not impressed with Labour so far. Not one tiny bit.

Wow, over 326k now. Wonder if they will debate it. At least a message will be sent, even though they will hide behind the fact they don’t need to and try to not debate.

its such a mess. A sad mess. Tax and spend. Tax and spend. Labour of old. Nothing new. Nothing learned

It's been a disastrous start for the Labour party. Obviously there won't be another general election but they need a few good news stories soon otherwise this vague sense that everything is getting worse, rather than better, under their governance will stick right through throughout their term.

It was always going to be a disastrous start. We are in a fucking mess

😂Hilarious.

I signed one against Brexit that had millions of signatures.

Will of the people innit?

That’s true of every election in this country. No party gets more than 50% of the vote.

The main driver of the % held by the winning party is the strength of the minor parties. There was a lot of tactical voting at the last election.

Why “notoriously left wing”, @CaptainRedbeardandbigbadbarry

The other parties aren't the ones which won.

And pointing out a fact which demonstrates that FPTP is a rubbish system (I was one of the few who voted for AV in 2011, and have actively wanted PR introduced), isn't whinging.

It’s honestly pretty hilarious that people are so quick to call a 6 month window “disastrous”, if this is disastrous what the fuck did you call the brexit negotiations, the brexit deal, immigration hugely rising under the tories despite them riding the wave of being anti-immigration, party gate, contempt for parliament, lying to the queen or trussonomics which seen mortgage rise by hundreds of pounds a month for many people?
Presumably that was all fine if you want more of the same.