Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

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Read the post again. The bothered part kicked in when it was pointed out that you're weirdly attached to the concept that people who think you're wrong are in an echo chamber. You evidently didn't like it.

I don't understand why people are comparing it to Brexit - it's totally different. Yes, sadly people voted for Brexit and it has happened and it was "as described on the tin" - leaving EU. However, the situation here is different - yes, people voted for Labour but now they are saying "this is not as described on the tin". This is not what we were told we were voting for, we feel misled and lied to. Plus we have a chancellor who lied on her CV - most people would be sacked for something like this.

It’s hitting the news outlets now. Express, mail, gb news , due to the scale of it. The more who sign, the bigger the news story this becomes and the more media attention it garners. And the more media attention the more people will sign it.

its now at 1.14 million.

It honestly doesn’t bother me. You keep going. It’s a bit obsessive.

Who wants to bet starmers response will be something along the lines of..it’s the tories fault and we had to make hard decisions. 😂

You said:

"They then mass report and delete to silence the posters"

MNHQ only delete posts which break the talk guidelines. So there would be no mileage in mass reporting posts which don't.

Exactly. Boris and the Tories wiped 4% of GDP, stagnated the Tories for year and were the most corrupt government in living memory. Some of them should probably be in jail. All of which the media mostly gave them a free pass. And yes in Boris’s case because he is Boris Johnson.

Thinking this might snowball is wishful thinking. Labour and Starmer won the election despite the media not because the media were supporting them. There is no reason this might change.

Incidentally when did this thing about stuff in the manifesto being mandatory and things that aren’t in the manifesto can’t be done start? That’s not really how UK politics works or has ever worked.

It doesn't matter.

A general election won't be called. The best that petition will achieve is a debate in Westminster Hall. The same result that the 6 million signature anti-Brexit petition achieved.

By the time a GE is actually called, that petition will be forgotten. The people signing it need to find a more effective way to express their discontent.

All the quality outlets…

I don't think people understand what happens with these petitions or who drafts the responses.

This is where I think the problem is, if 'others don't care about people's opinion/voice' and official petitions are 'bollocks' the underlying discontent in the current government will only grow. Rioters quite rightly faced swift justice during the summer - but I saw nothing to address the underlying discontent. The petition is a way of demonstrating that resentment. People dismissing it, calling people stupid or thick is counter productive. The government have got to perform better, communicate better and listen to ALL the electorate concerns. People are sick of being told ' but you're missing the point....' or 'people need to understand...'.

Yes but he might have misjudged it. People won't forget

Name yourself a quality outlet.

I can’t help with reading comprehension; try reading the whole post again. You are fully aware of what it says. I can’t help you further.

But that’s the entire point of change.org. It always has been it’s never been an issue before. The point is to make people feel like they’ve done something about a political issue to stop them doing something inconvenient like actually doing something like campaigning or protesting.

Yes I sign them, but never be under the illusion that however many people sign it or how quickly the numbers go up actually means anything.

The Times might be a reasonable shout. Might need balancing a bit.

If Labour supporters are mass reporting posts that don't break talk guidelines, why is MNHQ deleting those posts?

Because HQ is full of raging lefties??

The FT is not bad.

Oh yes. Like the FT

What, like you over Bwexit

No - people are no longer willing to 'deal with it' and 'shut up'. That approach will only work for so long. I wanted Starmer to succeed I really did - but this current Labour Cabinet doesn't inspire confidence at all. Starmer has no charm or charisma, he's no statesman and is a really bad communicator. I want better for the UK - god knows who that is but this Labour Government certainly isn't it. I can't see them uniting the country and getting the growth needed to get this country back on its feet. Once again dismissing people's views and telling them to 'deal with it' isn't going to make the resentment go away.