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Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

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ForsythiaPlease · 24/11/2024 01:03

In six hours, this is unstoppable-please sign and share
https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

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SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:36

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 16:35

its over a million now. And sure, everyone knows they won’t call an election, but it can’t force a change of policy, a change of leader. It’s a strong message the electorate is sending. Sure they will ignore its demand, no one is foolish enough to think otherwise, nor do they need telling, but there is no surprise or ignoring the message.

They absolutely can ignore the message and demonstrably are going to.

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 16:36

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:35

If you think a petition to call a general election 4 months after the last one is tapping into what the general public want, you've no room to talk about echo chambers.

What does that even mean?

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2024 16:37

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:35

If you think a petition to call a general election 4 months after the last one is tapping into what the general public want, you've no room to talk about echo chambers.

Tbf if you think MN is a Keir love fest your finger is quite off the pulse anyway. The lurkers might be people actually posting not so much.

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 16:37

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:36

They absolutely can ignore the message and demonstrably are going to.

Did you quote the wrong poster, or misread, I am not sure which part of “they will ignore the message” was unclear?

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:37

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 16:36

What does that even mean?

That only someone in their own echo chamber would think the general public want another election 4 months after the last one.

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 16:38

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:35

If you think a petition to call a general election 4 months after the last one is tapping into what the general public want, you've no room to talk about echo chambers.

Eh are you ok? That’s not what I’ve said. Many people are unhappy. Many official bodies are raising the alarm re: job losses. People are allowed to demonstrate how unhappy they are. MN is one huge leftist echo chamber. Reality is very different.

It is uncomfortable for sure. A government should be in its best times right now. Giving hope. Many people have buyers remorse. Anyone who can’t see this is a spectacular issue - there is no hope. You’ll hand the Conservatives back power for a generation with no viable opposition.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:39

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 16:37

Did you quote the wrong poster, or misread, I am not sure which part of “they will ignore the message” was unclear?

You also wrote 'there is no surprise or ignoring the message'. I would agree that contradicts what you wrote a couple of sentences earlier, but that's for you to fix.

EasternStandard · 24/11/2024 16:39

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 16:30

People are hugely missing the point which is not surprising. Outside of the MN echo chamber of wanna be Keir buddies - people are unhappy. The only people who aren’t are public sector workers and socialists not impacted in a catastrophic way by the budget.

The pensioners on the basic pension? The minimum of 50k on track to lose their job because of the huge tax grabbing budget. Those on track to lose their job when it trickles down and those who keep their jobs have pay freezes. Less need for retail, services, cleaners, etc. They might well be slightly more pissed off. They don’t have all day to post though; they are working or freezing.

Next week it’ll be turn of the long term sick and those not in full time employment.

People aren’t happy and they are worried. People can live in their public sector bubble for so long. However that will be next if the private sector keeps shrinking and the catastrophic job losses happen. You can’t fund the public sector and state without the tax and wealth from the private sector….

I think there are a fair few in the public sector posting pro Labour and Starmer. Their positivity re Labour is not surprising but that doesn't reflect many people who have been hit by poor policies.

As for a release valve as claimed in pp I think things tend to snow ball more these days. Headlines pick it up, polls fall, PMQs happen, a bit like party gate but in the opposite direction

I doubt this is the lowest point. I'm interested to see where things go in about a year when a budget can't tax more again nor borrow more but growth has stalled.

Plus the channel issue which will get greater pressure including from France

DelilahBucket · 24/11/2024 16:40

Less than 60% of voters actually voted in the election. Wonder how many of them are now signing and sharing this petition? And really, who are we going to have that's any better. I didn't vote for Labour, and some of the stuff they've rolled out so far is shit, but I do believe in them being given a chance. That's the whole reason we have a voting system.

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 16:40

EasternStandard · 24/11/2024 16:39

I think there are a fair few in the public sector posting pro Labour and Starmer. Their positivity re Labour is not surprising but that doesn't reflect many people who have been hit by poor policies.

As for a release valve as claimed in pp I think things tend to snow ball more these days. Headlines pick it up, polls fall, PMQs happen, a bit like party gate but in the opposite direction

I doubt this is the lowest point. I'm interested to see where things go in about a year when a budget can't tax more again nor borrow more but growth has stalled.

Plus the channel issue which will get greater pressure including from France

Will be interesting for sure.

Beekeepingmum · 24/11/2024 16:42

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2024 16:29

Turns out his approval ratings were higher than Boris started with.

Starmer was around 0 IIRC. Boris’s was about -20 when he was elected in 2020.

I wonder whether either Starmer is just less popular than we expect labour PMs to be or whether it’s just the media narrative is that he’s unpopular in a way it never was for Boris.

I think he is just more dull than Boris. Boris has/had an element of obsessive fans in a way that Starmer doesn't. Boris you might want to go to the pub with in a way you wouldn't with Starmer. But then you'd probably be happy if your daughter was working for Starmer in way you wouldn't with Boris (remember the poor girl who got a peerage for her "services"). If Boris was flagged for not declaring Freebies, then it was just "oh well its Boris", Starmer got more hassle for declaring going to the football.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:42

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 16:38

Eh are you ok? That’s not what I’ve said. Many people are unhappy. Many official bodies are raising the alarm re: job losses. People are allowed to demonstrate how unhappy they are. MN is one huge leftist echo chamber. Reality is very different.

It is uncomfortable for sure. A government should be in its best times right now. Giving hope. Many people have buyers remorse. Anyone who can’t see this is a spectacular issue - there is no hope. You’ll hand the Conservatives back power for a generation with no viable opposition.

It's interesting how attached some of you are to the concept of anyone not agreeing with you being in some kind of echo chamber. Like only your take could possibly be reflective of reality.

In actual fact, we can all see the polls now, but tying this onto a pointless petition is not a reality based take. There are a number of things Labour should be worried about. This isn't one of them.

Foodie333 · 24/11/2024 16:43

Get people back work is as vague as:

hire more teachers and fix crumbling schools

there is no plan

and laugh to think NHS is happy to start to do non-clinical jobs programme for the hundreds of thousands off on “mental un-health” or the shoplifters, drug dealers & gang creeps ruining the country.

How will NHS cope with county lines drug dealers in the building, the stench of skunk weed in the smoking areas wafting thru the hospitals or these folks driving trucks.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:43

Beekeepingmum · 24/11/2024 16:42

I think he is just more dull than Boris. Boris has/had an element of obsessive fans in a way that Starmer doesn't. Boris you might want to go to the pub with in a way you wouldn't with Starmer. But then you'd probably be happy if your daughter was working for Starmer in way you wouldn't with Boris (remember the poor girl who got a peerage for her "services"). If Boris was flagged for not declaring Freebies, then it was just "oh well its Boris", Starmer got more hassle for declaring going to the football.

Johnson was very Marmite. Huge parts of the population absolutely despised him, maybe even a majority. But the ones who didn't were disproportionately likely to live in an area where their vote mattered more.

Gingerbee · 24/11/2024 16:45

No

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 16:48

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:42

It's interesting how attached some of you are to the concept of anyone not agreeing with you being in some kind of echo chamber. Like only your take could possibly be reflective of reality.

In actual fact, we can all see the polls now, but tying this onto a pointless petition is not a reality based take. There are a number of things Labour should be worried about. This isn't one of them.

Eh? I don’t feel attached. I haven’t signed the petition, nor did I vote Labour or Tory. I know a political and economic disaster unfolding when I see one.

The only person who seems bothered is you. If the cap fits. Echo chamber indeed.

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 16:54

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 14:02

People jump on others. There is a claxon that goes off and posters jump on here, goading and been generally unkind. Waiting to pull anyone not from their group into a bunfight. They then mass report and delete to silence the posters. More seasoned posters are wise to these tactics and know they go on. People don’t need to @ me as when someone raises it - you’ll get 5/6 posters all weirdly denying they do it.

They then mass report and delete to silence the posters

So are you saying MNHQ delete posts for being critical of Labour?

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:57

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 16:48

Eh? I don’t feel attached. I haven’t signed the petition, nor did I vote Labour or Tory. I know a political and economic disaster unfolding when I see one.

The only person who seems bothered is you. If the cap fits. Echo chamber indeed.

I said attached to the concept that people who disagree with you are in an echo chamber. You seem surprisingly bothered about that being pointed out.

MayaPinion · 24/11/2024 17:00

Begsthequestion · 24/11/2024 15:32

This anti-Brexit petition got 6 million signatures, so perhaps we need to deal with that one first?

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/241584

They did deal with this in parliament - I remember it! It basically went ‘Brexit is the will of the people so shut your pie holes’.

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 17:04

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:39

You also wrote 'there is no surprise or ignoring the message'. I would agree that contradicts what you wrote a couple of sentences earlier, but that's for you to fix.

I’m alright thanks. Confused

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 17:04

PandoraSox · 24/11/2024 16:54

They then mass report and delete to silence the posters

So are you saying MNHQ delete posts for being critical of Labour?

No of course not. Try reading again.

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 17:05

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 16:57

I said attached to the concept that people who disagree with you are in an echo chamber. You seem surprisingly bothered about that being pointed out.

Not really. If I was bothered about being stuck in an echo chamber. I wouldn’t be on here.

EasternStandard · 24/11/2024 17:06

@Aduvetday well given the skew on here I'm glad you post, otherwise it would all be pro Starmer / Labour

Aduvetday · 24/11/2024 17:06

EasternStandard · 24/11/2024 17:06

@Aduvetday well given the skew on here I'm glad you post, otherwise it would all be pro Starmer / Labour

Wouldn’t it? Whilst trying to drag posters into bun fights to get them suspended. Crazy times.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 24/11/2024 17:07

Losingthetimber · 24/11/2024 17:04

I’m alright thanks. Confused

Your post wasn't.

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