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The NI is a only small proportion of the impact of that of minimum wage increase. It all depends on where you choose to place the outrage.

Excellent, will reduce the UC bill.

If you can't run a business without Government supported employees, you need a better business model.

And what was inflation for the last 3 years?

it’s a pay cut in reality, not a pay rise

Their 62% marginal rate is correct on incomes between £100 and £125k. No one is making anything up.

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Where to place the outrage? Who's the Labour approved culprit?...at the old people for getting old?

Correct!

Here £112000

The taper between 100-125k means you lose your personal allowance giving an effective tax rate of 60%

Then you aren't looking close enough. My incremental tax rate last year was 62.5% on an income of £62k.

Oh, I see. You don't understand what "marginal" tax rate means then. As has been pointed out, the person you quoted as being wrong was actually correct as they clearly said it was a 62% MARGINAL tax rate, which is correct. Your example illustrates something completely different.

@80smonster

If there is no Universal Credit, wages will have to rise...Employers will have to pay more.
Would you still keep disability allowance or let them starve?

The UK has a longstanding problem with bottlenecks and marginal tax rates at various points in the income spectrum. Fiscal drag hasn't helped with that either. The example given by PPs in this thread is correct.

The Tories did fuck all about this when they were in and I'm not optimistic that Labour will address it either. It's a multi party mess, to all of our detriment.

I don't think there needs to be any outrage. As a country there seems to be consensus that minimum wages make sense to protect the lowest paid workers. We generally want high levels of public services. That means we need the tax to match. No need for anyone to get upset we just need to adapt and move on.

The relentless attacks by the right wing media owned by billionaires have certainly succeeded in terrifying and demoralising people. My mum who is 80 and usually smart and well informed recently got herself into a state about inheritance tax ‘going up’ on her little flat. I had to explain that nothing had changed in the budget and that her ‘estate’ wouldn’t be liable to IHT anyway. A poster on here cites a farmer ‘terrified’ by a ‘Labour carbon tax’ actually introduced under Sunak. There’s endless nonsense about ‘two tier’ justice promoted by the likes of Elon Musk. The expansion of worker’s rights and increased minimum wage are good things and manifesto promises that have been delivered on. I’m looking forward to improvements in rights for renters and to leasehold reform. Wes Streeting seems committed to improving the NHS. I’m pleased to see the reduction of a tax loophole that encouraged billionaires to scoop up land as a tax dodge and artificially inflate prices as side effect. Same re using pensions to avoid IHT rather than use them to live off like the vast majority of us do (if we are lucky). Its early days and there is so much to do after years of Cameron, Johnson, May, Truss et al running down public services left us with a literally shitty country. This ridiculous petition is a pointless tantrum.

How would the Conservatives have fixed the issues this country is facing at the moment ?

People on here saying the 'private sector has shrunk' , what do you mean by that exactly ? looking at news sources, it says activity/output shrank, which is to be expected at this time of the year ? People put off big purchases until after the budget or are waiting for Black Friday sales ?
I haven't done any non essential shopping for at least a couple of months and I know a lot of my colleagues are the same. Wages simply aren't going as far as they did since the massive inflation hikes over the last couple of years, which hasn't stopped but have slowed. I can't think of anything that hasn't shot up in price other than my wages !

More proof that many people on MN screenshot and don’t actually understand what they are saying. 62% marginal is real is some portion of income - I pay it.

There's already an active campaign going on by a group who started a previous petition on it.

It's referring to the PMI figure

Reading up on it it was increasing with peak mid year now falling

It's below the forecast figure

Oh here we go again. Entitled idiots throwing toys out of prams and trying to overturn the result of a democratic vote because it didn't go their way. No different to the way that the remainers behaved after the EU referendum.

I don't care who gets in, whether it's Labour, Reform UK or anybody else. If they win the election, then they get their chance to be in power. That's democracy.

Aside from anything else, elections are enormously expensive. We can't start doing reruns every 5 minutes because some people don't like the result. Tough luck.

I think people working fewer hours to qualify for benefits should be encouraged to reach their full potential. Schools and hospitals are suffering because of endemic laziness and a refusal to contribute one’s fair share.

Signed. I never voted for them and yet they have exceeded my expectations at just how out of their depth and horrendous they have been. Yet this isn't the right forum to post on as MN are Labour and Keir lovers and get very defensive if you express a different view.

Yes I don’t think this is happening. Next election 2029. We get to see the results by then, not a lot of handwringing.

Absolutely this!

The amount of people blaming Labour for Tory policies is unbelievable especially on the farming supporters posts. It's like Orwell's 1984 and all the Tory policies like Brexit and Agricultural reform have been put into the memory hole!