Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

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In six hours, this is unstoppable-please sign and share
https://t.co/0aZ6Q6VhZD

Okay how has this affected you personally? They have only been in for a few months and inherited a complete 14 year mess.

I asked OP at the start of this thread, who she would want to govern rather than Labour, but the OP is her only post on this thread.

So no reasoning, no discussion. No suggestions as to an alternative, simply a request to sign a petition.

Then why is it in politics and not the petitions board?

The amount of people blaming Labour for Tory policies

Why has growth which was stronger in first half of the year now stagnated including the current PMI figure?

No one is putting anything into a memory hole, they are expecting the current government to be accountable - that’s the job I’m afraid. Everyone is sick of various parties pointing at each other: the country wants solutions and actions. People paying their fair share of tax and addressing benefits being dished out to those who should pay their fair share is long overdue.

It's a 62% marginal tax rate between 100k and 120k in the UK. It happens because the 0-12,000 tax free allowance is removed when earnings go over 100k. This takes the marginal rate to 62%.

Google it. It's very well documented.

I converted pounds to euros in my example so 100k GBP is 120k euros. I did this for consistency.

Anyone objecting to this petition has not been paying attention.

I will be interested to see incidentally what Labour do on benefits. It strikes me that they could be radical; I would like them to be, particularly on part time working.

Anyway this petition will do nada. It’s just a bunch of old Tories remembering that they too are subject to “elective dictatorship” as Lord Halisham put it. The Tories lost. End.

This must be the fastest losses of a lead after a GE

There must be a fair few who voted Labour and now wouldn't

There's a lot to do. It says a lot when a party inherits a global banking crisis yet still manages to make leave the country considerably worse than when they started. In time we will see if the changes work. As long as by the election some public services work it will be better than everything being on its knees.

some public services work it will be better than everything being on its knees.

You need a growing private sector for that and going by figures v forecast Labour are doing a good job at reversing that growth

The next election is all going to fought on delivery. Did Starmer deliver?

Not whether Tories are pleased. They are never going to be.

Roll on 2029 and all the gnashing of teeth (as opposed to coherent opposition) to come. Next week, maybe some sort of cultural war point…

As you repeatedly say. This also takes time though.

People switch votes. Obviously which is why the polls show the lead is gone

That is Labour voters at last GE who now feel put off

People are very pro Starmer and Labour so they see it as only one group thinking they're woeful, when many do, and they miss people switch

The manufacturing PMI has only dropped by about 1% though hasn't it ? @EasternStandard ? Partially due to supply chain issues ?

As you repeatedly say. This also takes time though.

It seems you've missed it was growing in first half and now has stagnated so why is that?

Could it be Labour's policies, if not why not?

If you'd kept going as it was with no changes it would still be up

Or do you mean they need drive things down first so it 'takes time'. That will cause damage so seems unwise

Another apparatchik from Liebour central office 🤣

Will Free Gear Kier and Rachel From Accounts’ last remaining supporter please turn out the lights.

Thank you 🙏

Totally agree - particularly this:
What's terrifying to me about all of this is how much influence the press has. Absolutely huge influence. They very clearly represent the elite.
There is a theory that WW3 has already started via misinformation, manipulation of the media, thousands of bots on social media, manipulation of elections etc.
There seems to be a deliberate media campaign to overthrow this government.

clearly you are a REVEL.
Rich Enough to Even Vote Liebour 👻

This is hilarious. We have a five year election cycle. Of course they are going to do all the shit, deeply unpopular stuff that needs to be done right at the beginning of the cycle. Starmer's personal popularity is completely irrelevant - he's got a 156 seat majority.

I can only think that the person who started this petition, and those who support it, don't really understand how a parliamentary democracy works. And the number of people talking about "four years" suggest to me that many contributors here are not British and assume we have the same cycle as the Americans do.

There was a radio 4 programme on it. Just how much those few newspaper owners hate him and the affect it has on opinions

I'm thinking of starting a MN Petition on deleting threads where the OP starts with something controversial and then never answers or clarifies or comments on their own thread.

It doesn't inform or debate or help anyone- it's simply stirs up anger and division.

If OP felt strongly enough to start a thread on this topic then she would have been back commenting.

It’s already exceeded 700k. I hope Starmer is made to step down. And Reeves. They didn’t win with an overwhelming majority. Labour won the election with 9708000 votes. The Uk population over the age of 18 stands at 42 million. That means that only 23% of the population voted for this Government. 33.7% of the vote share. 38% of the vote share went to the Conservatives and Reform. Labour only won because for many they were nothing more than a protest vote and people wanted to punish the cons. There is no way they will get in next time.

Edited to add that online it states that “It received a lower vote share than any party forming a post–war majority government” according to a research briefing by By Richard Cracknell and Carl Baker.

I don't think the current economic situation is much to do with labour yet. It has been 4 months. PMI is one figure out of many.
You cannot fix the problems this country has in 4 months, and I read actually the other day that the farmers protests actually increased labour's lead in the next opinion poll published
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/farmers-protest-results-in-poll-boost-for-labour-386275/
I am surprised at people's reactions to the minimum wage increase - it is very disappointing that people think it is a bad thing to improve the financial position at the bottom end of the scale, people need to be paid a decent wage for their work.

I remember you. You are the person who posted homophobic comments about Keir Starmer on here. That told me everything about you and your mentality, thanks

I did hear a reporter saying that people protesting not being about to pass on their £3m asset without paying tax like everyone else wasn't necessarily a problem for Starmer.