Call for a General Election-petition exceeds 200,000 signatures

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In six hours, this is unstoppable-please sign and share
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Well this has made me laugh. What do all those signing this petition think will happen. They call a GE and then the tories get back in? And then those who aren't happy with the tories create and sign a petition, then we have another GE?

The petition is absurd.

There's no point in going back to the GE timing It's what many wanted. Including on here.

Now we'll see what a shrinking private sector does to public spending

The message of ' yes it's shit but less shit than under the Tories' is wearing thin. The tired old ' 22 billion black hole' has been trotted out too many times. We KNOW the Tories needed to be voted outed - that's why Labour got a majority. But please communicate some optimism - demonstrate your policies are working (if they are). Show the Government are looking out for the interests of all its people and deliver some positivity. I feel like this Government wants to punish, demoralise and knock the life out of us all.

Well it’s just passed half a million signatures now. I think no matter what your opinion, it has to be acknowledged there’s a lot of people who aren’t happy with Labour. I do have to wonder if the political developments in the USA have bolstered people to believe they can stand up and take action.

Highers earners in the UK pay the highest rates of tax in the western world.

UK Low and Middle income earners pay some of the lowest rates in Europe. This is due to the 20% band in the UK and becomes you dont pay tax on the first 12k in the UK. In other countries income tax kicks in on the first euro you earn and they pay higher rates than the UK.

Suggest you google income tax thresholds across Europe.

Belgium - 25% from 1 euro, 15k euros is 40%
Portugal - 13% from 1 euro, sliding scale, 21k euros is 37%
France - 11% from 11k euros, 30% from 28k euros, 40% at 80k euros
Spain - 19% from 1 euro, sliding scale, 37% from 35k euros
Italy - 23% from 1 euro, sliding scale, 38% from 27k euros
Sweden - 0% to 50k euros, at 60k euros its 55% depending on municipal income tax
UK, - 0% to 14k euros (converted), 20% at 14k euros, 40% at 60k euros, 120k euros its 62% marginal rate, 150k euros its 45% tax

If you are a low or middle income earner you pay much less tax.

I see it wasn’t clear, but these petitions are so it is debated in parliament. No one thinks Labour will accept they are doing an awful job and call and election, we all know they’d be voted out. In a landslide. More it gives a clear message that the electorate is deeply unhappy with the awful last few months, the tax and spend, taking from the elderly in need, costing us jobs with the ni increases, the freebie taking, it’s just all so bad. So it’s good the electorate can at least have a way of making their voices heard, even though we know they will cling on for the next 4 and a bit years.

Maybe they are all just realising they can't take ''charismatic'' Starrner for 5 years!

The petition will be a debate in Westminster Hall at best, then that'll be it.

The electorate? You think well of yourselves. Half a million of you certainly don't constitute 'the electorate' and nor are you qualified to speak for the people as a collective.

Ultimately, we live in a multi party democracy. Whatever government we have is going to be loathed by many of us. Anyone who's managed to get themselves to Parliament will have noticed this.

'We all know they'd be voted out'

In 1981 I asked my mum if anyone would ever vote for Mrs Thatcher again. She laughed and said of course not. Two huge electoral victories followed...

You have one part right. Our salaries are low. 6 figures in tech seems high - I would triple it abroad our salaries are low.

However our higher earners pay similar tax rates to scandi countries. The awkward truth is…it’s middle and lower earners who do not whilst having a generous personal allowance. They also don’t have the economic activity and the huge welfare/sickness state we have.

Everyone is expected to contribute vs a majority of state dependents in the UK.

what private sector have labour trashed?

The impact of the National Minimum Wage increases. I haven't heard anyone say that the Conservatives would not have increased the national minimum wage by inflation. Personally I wouldn't have. It increased a lot last year and does put pressure on business, not just the impact of those affected but the knock on up the chain as people expect the gap between themselves and minimum remains consistent.

As you probably know, I don’t believe Labour could successfully deliver a turd in a bowl. But the number of signatures makes me think it ties quite nicely with the recent statements about farmers and benefits. We spend 58.9 billion on Universal Credit, a system which should be halted, and the money ploughed into healthcare and schools.

So now hung trashed just a slight increase in wages for those on the bottom rung and a decrease in profits for the share holders

I don’t particularly trust the DM as a journalist source, but all the quotes appear direct? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14118861/amp/Keir-Starmer-benefits-welfare-country-working.html

I know that, i was wondering if those signing the petition did and what they were hoping would happen. There will always be a proportion of people who are unhappy with the government and the results of a GE. So I don't think it gives a clear message at all.

Would they be voted out? Have you seen Kemis approval rating? I wouldn't be voting for her.

I understand you want your voice to be heard but I think you'd have a similar outcome if you went outside and shouted into the wind.

It is the week before Black Friday, retail will be back up at the next check, just like every other year.

We seem to be doing above average.
UK PMI 49.9
EU PMI 48.1
Lots of countries are feeling the pinch due to manufacturing sinking into a deeper recession and the services sector struggling amid concerns over future US tariffs and a weakened German economy.
Didn't anyone notice the financial blip last time Trump was elected?
The UK does not exist in a vacuum.
The Daily Mail is not an unbiased source of information.

It's 6%? On top of 10% last year. Hardly slight.

As you probably know, I don’t believe Labour could successfully deliver a turd in a bowl. But the number of signatures makes me think it ties quite nicely with the recent statements about farmers and benefits. We spend 58.9 billion on Universal Credit, a system which should be halted, and the money ploughed into healthcare and schools.

I don't think the benefit stuff has filtered through yet

It'll either do not much at all or people will feel it, but it's a bit early to see the petition responding to this I agree with pp

It's probably a variety of stuff

I’ve tried up to £180k there isn’t a 60% tax you’re making it up

Retail is highly concerned about the impact of the ni increase. The OBR has said that it expects 50,000 jobs will be lost as a result, Andrew Bailey agrees that actual number will dwarf this figure.

The 600m offered to boost social care in the budget covers about half of the £1.2 billion the ni increase will inflict. The net outcome being a further withered caring sector and the fallout on families who shoulder the burden when it fails.

Whatever this government are doing wrong its not as bad as the last lot.

Yes, but AV would be a move in the right direction and may have led to proper PR over time. As it is, we've ended up stuck with the same flawed voting system which is what has caused the last few decades of parliamentary incompetence and chaos.