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Pedants' corner

‘He want aloud’

151 replies

ProfessorofDarkArts · 08/07/2026 23:31

On a FB thread about schools and rules during the heat. Honestly I give up 🤦🏻‍♀️

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RotatingPenguin · 11/07/2026 17:09

Yetanotherone12 · 10/07/2026 14:32

Interestingly I remember this from my schools days. I’m 50’s, my younger sister is about 45 now.

i was taught grammar. Spelling tests. Dates. Rules.

my sister the teaching methods were changed and the focus was on creativity and encouragement. So if a kid wrote an imaginative essay they’d get top marks and a well done! I’d read it and think wtf- no correction of spelling or grammar in the slightest. Apparently it put children off learning if you were negative about their efforts.

so that would explain that to an extent. And also the resistance to correction…

I work with a lot of dyslexic people and it gets easy to spot the written patterns. It’s hard to describe but it’s rarely spag that gives it away, there’s a certain logic to the way the write that demonstrates how their brain interprets.

My eldest is 40 and she started Primary while this daft experiment was going on. They weren't taught to spell, and correcting SPAG was "disturbing their natural creativity."

DD is an avid reader but missing out on spelling during her formative years meant she never picked it up.

By the time the youngest started school they'd chucked that out as a failure and everyone had to learn not just spelling but bits of words as well (too far the other way IMO).

But there is a whole generation of adults aged around 35 to 45 who cannot spell or correctly use grammar, and unfortunately they are now the teachers and admin staff.

ThisOneLife · 11/07/2026 17:11

Graham Satchell on the BBC talking about Ruth Ellis finally being pardoned many after being “hung” 🙄.

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/07/2026 17:38

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 11/07/2026 16:31

😂Yes I get that, just saying it wasn't a convo I was part of!

Well I have no idea.what the convo was about then. I know what I was talking about.

Dragonfly97 · 11/07/2026 17:47

Someone on my local Facebook page wanted to know where the nearest "desert place was, within driving distance". We are in Shropshire. Some suggested the Kalahari or Sahara, although it might be quite the drive.

There is so much stupidity about, and people who defend it in the name of "being kind", but some posts are so bad you don't a clue what they're trying to say. Edited to add, they were looking for a "dessert place", if it wasn't obvious!

RaraRachael · 11/07/2026 21:05

I read that someone had been so emotional they were "balling" their eyes out.
Don't they ever think about the origin of a word?

Dragonfly97 · 11/07/2026 21:07

RaraRachael · 11/07/2026 21:05

I read that someone had been so emotional they were "balling" their eyes out.
Don't they ever think about the origin of a word?

Yeah i cringe every time I see this 😬

PleasantPedant · Yesterday 10:33

RaraRachael · Yesterday 21:05
I read that someone had been so emotional they were "balling" their eyes out.
Don't they ever think about the origin of a word?

I don't think they think much at all. If they did, what would they think ball one's eyes meant?

While I'm at it, rediculous.
Where would the word have come from? What do they think it means?
Presumably the writer thinks is means laughable or absurd.
Ever heard of ridicule?
Angry

tartyflette · Yesterday 11:25

Stepping foot is a new one! Sigh.

RaraRachael · Yesterday 13:13

tartyflette · Yesterday 11:25

Stepping foot is a new one! Sigh.

Presumably they think foot has a connection to step, rather than set.

Every day there's some new nonsense.

upinaballoon · Yesterday 14:23

There's a presenter on the 'Today' programme who usually talks about 'pelitical' matters - the newish lady. I've heard someone else doing it, too.

PleasantPedant · Yesterday 14:38

It's her accent. She does sometimes say '... and I' when she means '... and me'.

SummerCycling · Yesterday 14:49

Very few things annoy me except these which I find sooo irritating (I am not a great writer, but I feel my BP rising whenever I read them 😂):

  1. using I instead of me eg "They told my husband and I that.."
  2. using myself instead of I and placing it before the other subjects eg "Myself and my brother went shopping"
  3. Alot as one word (for a lot)

I strongly suspect anyone who does the above has to be a monolingual English speaker with such a total lack of grammatical insight.

PleasantPedant · Yesterday 15:17

I dislike letters being rearranged or changed as in nucular or intregal.

Dissect being said as di-sect more than annoys me.
How can you spell the word correctly then say dis as di?
You wouldn't say di-(s)respect, di-(s)appoint, di-solve or di-sertation.

@SummerCycling , I wonder what people were taught at school. I don't recall being taught much grammar, probably little more than nouns, plurals, adjectives, verbs, subject and object. I learnt more about grammar from studying other languages.

Alot is probably a typo. I do it because I press the space bar too lightly at times.

I strongly suspect anyone who does the above has to be a monolingual English speaker with such a total lack of grammatical insight.
I think it's those who have learnt English by immersion. This includes monoglots but also includes those who might have grown up in a country with more than one language taught, but who learnt English from TV or conversation.

I tried to learn Italian by listening to it and thought 'I'm sorry' was 'sonos piacente'. Blush

Daradillington · Yesterday 16:22

Dissect being said as di-sect more than annoys me.
How can you spell the word correctly then say dis as di?
You wouldn't say di-(s)respect, di-(s)appoint, di-solve or di-sertation.

It’s been suggested that the pronunciation of dissect (as di-sect) has been influenced by the pronunciation of bisect.

TeaWithASplashOfMilkPlease · Yesterday 16:31

Alot is probably a typo. I do it because I press the space bar too lightly at times.

I’m not sure that’s the case in the majority of the increasingly-regular uses of alot. The same people also use the aberration ‘abit’, and I’m sure there’s another fairly frequent variation on the theme which escapes me for the moment. I will edit this post if it comes back to the front of my mind.

PleasantPedant · Yesterday 16:41

Maybe, but I do them. I also sometimes press too hard so might type inn or onn, too for to and possibly loose for lose.

The errors are generally too widespread to be typos IMO. They're so prevalent that they seem to not look incorrect.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · Yesterday 16:52

Not only do people not read any more - they don't care. 'You can understand it, you can get the meaning' is bandied about a lot (or alot). But sometimes you can't. Or the sheer ridiculousness of the mangling of the language means that you misunderstand or have to spend a long time trying to parse the meaning of a peculiar sentence. Where 'he want aloud' might just about be decipherable, what if it was 'want aloud' as a statement? How do you deduce the meaning?

However, apparently AI is practically ubiquitous now, so perhaps it might see the back of this? Or will phrases like 'want aloud' enter AI speak and become interchangeable with 'wasn't allowed'?

Papyrophile · Yesterday 17:29

I am hyper-literate. Apparently I decoded basic reading at three before I went to school, but my DH and DS are both very dyslexic, as was DFIL. They are both quick on the uptake and not slow in any way. But they are not going to score top marks academically, although they are both clever enough to puzzle their way through complex engineering problems.

Bananalanacake · Yesterday 18:53

On Facebook I was looking at photos of a primary school fete, the kids were selling craft items and food. There was a hand written sign saying 'sweet's'. I'd have thought a teacher would have pointed out there is no apostrophe needed.

RaraRachael · Yesterday 19:05

Bananalanacake · Yesterday 18:53

On Facebook I was looking at photos of a primary school fete, the kids were selling craft items and food. There was a hand written sign saying 'sweet's'. I'd have thought a teacher would have pointed out there is no apostrophe needed.

Some of the teachers I taught with wouldn't have known. One who taught P6 was due to teach a lesson on apostrophes and asked me to tell her what the correct answers were.

Daradillington · Yesterday 19:38

RaraRachael · Yesterday 19:05

Some of the teachers I taught with wouldn't have known. One who taught P6 was due to teach a lesson on apostrophes and asked me to tell her what the correct answers were.

Oh dear…was she horribly embarrassed?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 19:45

Long ago I helped out in my son's class. I think they were in year 3 (so aged 7-8) when a supply teacher wrote the date on the board for them to copy. She wrote Febury. I am not proud of the fact that when her back was turned I silently corrected it, having wimped out of pointing it out to her directly. I knew her slightly and was fairly confident spelling was not one of her strengths.

RaraRachael · Yesterday 21:03

@Daradillington Sadly she wasn't as it's becoming fairly normal.
She also put up a list of the dances they were doing at the Christmas party which included the "Bluebell Poker"

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · Yesterday 21:50

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/07/2026 17:38

Well I have no idea.what the convo was about then. I know what I was talking about.

That's good, but it was a convo with another poster.

Or should that be 'want aconvo with me'.

FramboiseRoyale · Yesterday 22:32

PleasantPedant · Yesterday 14:38

It's her accent. She does sometimes say '... and I' when she means '... and me'.

Edited

The Prince of Wales does this: "It means so much to Catherine and I."

I do find it a bit irritating.

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