‘He want aloud’

[ProfessorofDarkArts]

On a FB thread about schools and rules during the heat. Honestly I give up 🤦🏻‍♀️

I would write it as pahth. That differentiates the short a that everyone uses in maths from the long a that some people (including me) use in grass, glass, bath etc. With no need to add in a confusing r.

I'd read pahth as [paθ] (like pat but with a th)

Path is p-a-th for me. It rhymes with cat in my accent. I don’t usually need to describe how it sounds in a different accent. If I did I’d use IPA…would need to learn how first 😁

It was the more able Reception children who wrote 'cunt' for 'couldn't' and I just quietly corrected it. I think the person quoted in the OP (he want aloud) was an adult who should have known better.

well it is obviously never mind, but I confess to wondering if there is a minecraft connection...

As a rhotic speaker (American), I experienced the same confusion when I first encountered MN, and I have lived in the UK. I did figure it out quickly, however, but I think a few rhotic speakers remain genuinely confused until someone explains it.

Instead we get the 'Why are you saying Larna when there's no R in Lana?'.

I think some rhotic speakers ask this just to point out how non-rhotic-centric MN is.

How do you say "ah". If the doctor asks you to say ah then surely is a long ah. Same as a Southern English long a. So pahth is the same to a non-rhotic accent as parth.

@FramboiseRoyale , Like you, it didn't take long to get the hang of it.

Explaining Lorna to non-rhotic speakers is just as bad.

You have the Scottish/Welsh version LORR-na (Lorr like in Lorry)
You have the American version LORE-nuh, like Folklore, R not distinct.
You have the non-rhotic LAU-nuh (Like Laura but with an N).

@DappledThings , How do you say Pah! or Hannah?

Sort of Hann-uh? Pah is more of a short a and of course Pa is the opposite. Because anything other than proper stuff with the symbols that most people don't understand is fallible.

But using "ah" is still more useful than "ar" to demonstrate the difference in pronunciation of glass between parts of the country

"Surely you wouldn't expect reception kids to get it right though?"

I have nothing against infants making cute mistakes in language. On the contrary, I would applaud their ambition.

But where does it say the perp was reception age? That would render this thread a bit pointless, surely?

Genuine question.
With the IPA symbols, does it give the "correct" pronunciation as RP?

It gives the dictionary definition.

I thought it was used to give the correct pronunciation

British English IPA has all of the vowel sounds. The whole point of IPA is that you can write the exact sounds that people use, whether that's pɑːθ or pæθ.
I could write the Scottish English, NRP, Norfolk, whatever. There is no 'correct' with IPA, it's descriptive*

*Though one of my professors did argue with me over my IPA for the word 'one'

Thanks @QwestSprout

As for correctness, you get words from other languages and they are the 'correct ' anglicised version. For example, loch is defined as 'loch' or 'lock', cromlech as 'kromleck', eisteddfod as ice-teth-vud or ice-ted-vud .
If you're a Gaelic or Welsh speaker, you'd probably disagree with those pronunciations.

Eisteddfod is ɛi[ˈstɛðvɒd, cromlech is ˈkrɒmlɛχ

That should have been
Eisteddfod is ɛiˈstɛðvɒd, cromlech is ˈkrɒmlɛχ

"As a retired reception teacher" was the quote I was referring to.

You seem a bit mad nobody put you in charge.

And I believe I replied accordingly and pointed out that the person referred to in the OP wasn't a Reception child.

I'm sorry, that was meant to quote @DeftGoldHedgehog

Agree, how about ‘draws’ instead of ‘drawers’ arrrggghhh

It's to do with people with non-rhotic accents not enunciating the last syllable.
They say 'drawr' but because they don't sound the 'r' it sounds like 'draw'. This in turn gets written as 'draw'.

Then you have 'chest of' being said as 'chest o', which they say as 'chest uh', and it sounds like Chester, so chest of drawers gets written as 'Chester draws'.

Chester is a delightful city and worth a visit (Chester | Visit Chester & Cheshire ), so I am rather fond of 'Chester draws', but I do judge the use of 'draw' for 'drawers'. I do not like hearing 'drawring'.

I feel that most of the misspellings would not occur if people thought about what they were saying or hearing and if they enunciated clearly.
I'm not referring to accent.

For anyone interested in how to say 'drawer': DRAWER | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

Think there's some cross-posting here. For the record I have no clue what 'reception' thing is.

Reception Class teacher.

😂Yes I get that, just saying it wasn't a convo I was part of!