Bolognaise not bolognese

[Bubblyaero]

It’s all ragù to me, but I’ve noticed people starting to put lentils in their “bolognaise”, and it troubles me more than the recent potato lasagne. When did it change? 🫤

Pedantic in two languages, well done @Bubblyaero 😂

I think it's a leftover from the days when we thought French cuisine was the best (see - I've just called cooking 'cuisine'!). Also we were taught French at school, not Italian.
It was only in the last few years that I realised that I have been calling it Bolognaise all these years, and I started using Bolognese instead.

THIS makes me want to do a murder. It’s clearly ‘bol’ as in short for bolognese(/aise). Nothing to do with eating it from a bowl. Honestly.

Ive probably been pronouncing it wrong all my life then. How do you pronounce bolognaise? I don't ever order it in Italy or an Italian restaurant and what I make is not authentic anyway and often vegetarian.

I was born in 1955 and my Mum made her own version of it with the 2ft long spaghetti in a blue packet. I was born in another country which had a significant Italian population at the time. She also made kebabs with steel knitting needles which were more of a local dish.

Just to go back to the lasagne lasagna issue, what's the cooked dish called? I've seen lasagna used mostly on MN, but elsewhere it's often lasagne.

On a tangent, but only a monster would serve ragu with spaghetti.

Sketty bol sounds like a very little child trying to say it. It would indeed be cute for them, but a bit icky if an adult said that.

Oh, there are so many of these mangled phrases. Like a bowl in a china shop; from the gekko; it's a doggy-dog world... Dave Gorman covers the subject with his usual aplomb.

I’ll help

I think I write bolognese now because that seems more common, but used to think it was bolgnaise. But what about pronunciation? Whatever the spelling, I anglicize to 'bolonase': do any of you say 'bolonyaysay' (best phonetic rendering I can come up with), or anything else?

'Another thing coming,' and 'the proof is in the pudding' - but I may be on the wrong thread 😂

I heard someone calling it “Sketty bol” the other day

Spag bol is bad enough but sketty bol? 😱 Just no!

Maybe you need to consider buying a more premium grade of beef!!

Love the new verb 'to patio'! 😂

Never seen the bolognaise spelling before this post! And I’m ancient. Maybe it’s a regional thing too?

Yes. Boloñez-e

If you don't even put meat in, it's not spaghetti bolognese anymore though, is it? So you don't need to worry about spelling and pronunciation.

I have come across spaghetti polonaise on a restaurant menu.

If anyone English said it like that...

I have never said it that way. I have never heard anyone else say it that way either. I'm not saying bolognaise is right but it's more prevalent.

I've lived all over the place and I've only ever heard English people say bolognaise. It's also what comes up on auto correct.

My husband thinks the abbreviation is ‘spag bowl’. I’ve considered divorcing him for this.

Of course it is an Italian dish, but in the distant past the language of 'fine dining' in England was French, and so menus were written entirely in French. A dish from oversea, be it France, Italy, Spain or wherever would have been named and described in French. This, I suspect, is why the French spelling continues to be used as many cookery books used by our parents or their parents would likely have used the French spelling. At one level is not incorrect today, as long as the rest of the menu is also described in French :)

Not that bothered about what to call spag bol, but 'to patio' is my new favourite verb 😀

If you add aubergines to the potato lasagne, you make it moussaka 😀

I don't think I've ever seen it spelled bolognaise before. Always Bolognese.
I do put red lentils in mine as they are very good for you and you can't see or taste them once they are in with the mince.