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Pedants' corner

Just so exhausted with the lack of language skills here

131 replies

Pebbles16 · 15/03/2024 19:17

Honestly, does anyone else just give up reading posts because the command of language is so poor?
Not talking about people who have English as a second language, because you can read through that.
I feel like such a moaner, but it really does make me feel so sad that people cannot truly communicate in their own language.

OP posts:
TitusMoan · 15/03/2024 20:18

AllTheChaos · 15/03/2024 20:00

I don’t mind it here, not usually anyway (though some examples are painful). I make a fair few mistakes myself with my fat fingers typing on a tiny mobile screen! When it’s content at work though, in papers to go to the Board, or on our Client facing website / portals, and they are full of mistakes including poor English, dodgy grammar, incorrect words / wrong spelling (eg discrete / discreet), and should have been proofread multiple times, it drives me NUTS! It’s like, we are City lawyers, people expect better than this!

Why do you capitalise the initial letter of ‘client’? It doesn’t need it.

AllTheChaos · 15/03/2024 20:19

TitusMoan · 15/03/2024 20:18

Why do you capitalise the initial letter of ‘client’? It doesn’t need it.

Autocorrect on my phone capitalises and changes words randomly - I’ve kind of given up worrying about it tbh!

ASighMadeOfStone · 15/03/2024 20:21

Have you got a magic button that tells you when a poster isn't a native English speaker?

Shopgirl1 · 15/03/2024 20:25

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 15/03/2024 19:28

I would of said the same thing and I've wrote about it before

This has to be a joke…otherwise:
I would “have” said….and I’ve “written”….

Enigma52 · 15/03/2024 20:29

You are such a moaner OP.
I'm dealing with secondary BC right now and feel quite poorly.

I couldn't give a flying fuck what grammatical errors are in my post.

How do you know which posters are EAL?

WinteryConditions · 15/03/2024 20:39

I'm not surprised you feel 'sad' OP, I'd feel sad if I was you too. Luckily for me I understand that everyone is different and that people aren't all good at the same things.

How are your DIY skills? Are you able to alter your own clothes? What about your artistic talents? Can you sing? What about sports? Do feel 'sad' about things you aren't good at?

My written English is quite shite tbh but I'm really good at other things.

WinteryConditions · 15/03/2024 20:42

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 19:58

I was horrified to see the word "gotten" typed in a hospital letter to the GP.

"Gotten has been in use since the 4th century in Britain and was used by Shakespeare. In Richard III he writes: With much ado at length have gotten leave, To look upon my sometimes royal master's face"

I think it's due a comeback 😉

Tessisme · 15/03/2024 20:53

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 19:58

I was horrified to see the word "gotten" typed in a hospital letter to the GP.

Horrified? Don’t visit NI or you’ll be in a permanent state of horror. It’s completely acceptable here. In Scotland too I believe. Maybe the person who wrote the letter was Irish or Scottish.

ColleenDonaghy · 15/03/2024 20:56

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 19:58

I was horrified to see the word "gotten" typed in a hospital letter to the GP.

Why would you be horrified?

Icedoatlattelove · 15/03/2024 20:58

RabbitsRock · 15/03/2024 19:31

I itch to correct people on social media generally but stopped doing it because you don’t know if they’re dyslexic or maybe have a learning difficulty.

You do realise that is really unpleasant right? The only person you're itching to correct for is yourself so you can feel superior. It wouldn't actually change anything for anyone. Like I genuinely don't know how people aren't embarrassed to say things like this.

Noicant · 15/03/2024 21:01

I don’t really belong in pedant’s corner but the “I’m exhausted by xyz” is quite exhausting to read all the time. I almost quit the “Washington Post” because of the number of columnists who appear to “exhausted” by or “tired” of pretty much everything.

ASighMadeOfStone · 15/03/2024 21:07

I always worry dreadfully about the posters who claim not to be able to understand something written in their own native language because of a wrongly spelled word, or a grammar mistake. Or even two, or three. Or more.

That level of cognitive dysfunction really should be investigated by specialist doctors and, possibly psychologists as there is something clearly very amiss.

Yet they rarely seem concerned at such a public display of ineptitude on their part, preferring to point and laugh at the person who has made the mistake. Or not, in the case of "gotten".

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 21:16

Tessisme · 15/03/2024 20:53

Horrified? Don’t visit NI or you’ll be in a permanent state of horror. It’s completely acceptable here. In Scotland too I believe. Maybe the person who wrote the letter was Irish or Scottish.

I strongly suspect she was Welsh.

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 21:25

WinteryConditions · 15/03/2024 20:42

"Gotten has been in use since the 4th century in Britain and was used by Shakespeare. In Richard III he writes: With much ado at length have gotten leave, To look upon my sometimes royal master's face"

I think it's due a comeback 😉

It was a hospital letter not an Elizabethan play.

iwafs · 15/03/2024 21:26

Our education system is fucked.

It has been fucked for decades.

This is the result.

ColleenDonaghy · 15/03/2024 21:29

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 21:25

It was a hospital letter not an Elizabethan play.

It's a very normal word that's been in use both formally and informally the world over for centuries. Nothing wrong with using it.

maudelovesharold · 15/03/2024 21:34

Shopgirl1 · 15/03/2024 20:25

This has to be a joke…otherwise:
I would “have” said….and I’ve “written”….

I think it was tongue in cheek!

LadyMuckonpancakes · 15/03/2024 21:40

Shopgirl1 · 15/03/2024 20:25

This has to be a joke…otherwise:
I would “have” said….and I’ve “written”….

Of course it’s a joke! 😩

Konfetka · 15/03/2024 21:49

ASighMadeOfStone · 15/03/2024 20:21

Have you got a magic button that tells you when a poster isn't a native English speaker?

SPAG mistakes by native speakers are a different monster altogether.

Lifeinlists · 15/03/2024 22:04

LadyMuckonpancakes · 15/03/2024 21:40

Of course it’s a joke! 😩

Many moons ago, I started a thread titled something like ' When do you write 'should of ' and 'could of' in a sentence?' Followed by my comment about its ubiquity.

Several posters very 'gently' pointed out where I was going wrong and how to remedy it.
That was nice of them, wasn't it?!

@TroysMammy It seems to be a generational thing with gotten. Does anyone over 45 write it?

DickEmery · 15/03/2024 22:08

TroysMammy · 15/03/2024 21:16

I strongly suspect she was Welsh.

Even worse!! 😱😱

BarbieDangerous · 15/03/2024 22:08

This isn’t an exam. Most people are on their phone and quickly typing away on their keyboard. So what if someones uses the incorrect ‘there’ or uses a comma instead of a full stop. It doesn’t really impact your life in any way?

DickEmery · 15/03/2024 22:09

WHY can't the English teach their children how to speak? Norwegians learn Norwegian, the Greeks are taught their Greek.

ASighMadeOfStone · 15/03/2024 22:10

Lifeinlists · 15/03/2024 22:04

Many moons ago, I started a thread titled something like ' When do you write 'should of ' and 'could of' in a sentence?' Followed by my comment about its ubiquity.

Several posters very 'gently' pointed out where I was going wrong and how to remedy it.
That was nice of them, wasn't it?!

@TroysMammy It seems to be a generational thing with gotten. Does anyone over 45 write it?

I think some Scottish and Irish people might be over 40. So, yes.

FunnysInLaJardin · 15/03/2024 22:10

I thought you were in France or something and moaning about ex pats

I'm sure if you really try, you can understand the message people are trying to convey?

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