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It's clique not click!

206 replies

Pinkywoo · 30/08/2022 07:01

I'm so sick of seeing this, there's not a cool mum click, it's a clique, and they're not clicky (well if their joints are anything like mine they might be) they're cliquey! and breathe

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alwaystrainers · 25/09/2022 19:35

On the note of language evolving - I wonder what will be the legacy of text speak. I think chill instead of chilled will become common place and maybe text as the past tense instead of texted.

waterlego · 25/09/2022 19:52

@OchonAgusOchonOh, can you try to phonetically write how each word is pronounced in your accent?

In my accent, they are both pronounced: ‘borduh’ (the r is not sounded and the final sound is a neutral vowel)

Or for those who like phonetic symbols: bɔ:də

CasaDelSoot · 25/09/2022 20:12

Border = bawrder Baw as in saw, paw
Boarder = oa is pronounced like coat, moat

In Scotland

OchonAgusOchonOh · 25/09/2022 20:16

CasaDelSoot · 25/09/2022 20:12

Border = bawrder Baw as in saw, paw
Boarder = oa is pronounced like coat, moat

In Scotland

That's the way I would pronounce them too. I'm glad you beat me to it as I was struggling with the phonetics.

All r's are pronounced too.

waterlego · 25/09/2022 20:20

Oh, this is so frustrating because I can’t ‘hear’ it in my head. I think because first of all, I’m having to think about how saw, paw, coat and moat are pronounced in Scottish and Irish accents (and I’m not sure I’m ‘hearing’ it right).

CasaDelSoot · 25/09/2022 20:24

If it helps @waterlego aw is pronounced liked the o in pot, lot, rot

CasaDelSoot · 25/09/2022 20:25

And as @OchonAgusOchonOh said we pronounce ALL the Rs

Bundlebungle · 25/09/2022 20:32

I did a pedantic aibu recently and got my comeuppance with 80% telling me I was indeed unreasonable. It would seem there is an extremely high percentage of posters on mumsnet with some sort of difficulty, disorder or disability who cannot be expected to check for, or learn from any mistakes.

waterlego · 25/09/2022 20:34

Thank you. So what about the oa in coat? In my accent, that’s a diphthong, (or sliding vowel), so it starts as a more open vowel and then the mouth becomes more closed, if that makes sense?

[ɜu] for phonetics fans.

CasaDelSoot · 25/09/2022 20:43

waterlego · 25/09/2022 20:34

Thank you. So what about the oa in coat? In my accent, that’s a diphthong, (or sliding vowel), so it starts as a more open vowel and then the mouth becomes more closed, if that makes sense?

[ɜu] for phonetics fans.

I think it's the same.
The oa in coat is quite long, but pronounced like slow, flow, oh no

Inklingpot · 25/09/2022 20:48

Bundlebungle · 25/09/2022 20:32

I did a pedantic aibu recently and got my comeuppance with 80% telling me I was indeed unreasonable. It would seem there is an extremely high percentage of posters on mumsnet with some sort of difficulty, disorder or disability who cannot be expected to check for, or learn from any mistakes.

MN is particularly touchy about SPAG, it has to be said. While I accept that it can come across as twatty to correct someone, some posts on here are incredibly hard to read. Based on people’s comments, it very much seems as though being able to communicate well in writing isn’t valued any more. And not just on MN, it seems to be a general thing.

TooHot2022 · 25/09/2022 20:53

alwaystrainers · 25/09/2022 19:35

On the note of language evolving - I wonder what will be the legacy of text speak. I think chill instead of chilled will become common place and maybe text as the past tense instead of texted.

God, I hope not!
People saying "I text him, but he didn't reply" makes me want to scream!

red4321 · 25/09/2022 21:00

I did a pedantic aibu recently and got my comeuppance with 80% telling me I was indeed unreasonable. It would seem there is an extremely high percentage of posters on mumsnet with some sort of difficulty, disorder or disability who cannot be expected to check for, or learn from any mistakes.

I find spelling mistakes almost jump out at me from the page. It's an irritating burden to bear. I've just read a long thread where aerial was most commonly spelt as "Ariel" followed by "Arial". I had to stop reading as my fingers were twitching.

I spent a silly length of time this morning pondering whether people whp use the phrase 'baby' instead of 'the baby' should, in fact, be capitalising it as a defined name. As in, "The room shouldn't be too hot for Baby."

Apologies for any grammatical or spelling errors in this post....

red4321 · 25/09/2022 21:01

Aargh "who"...!

lizziesiddal79 · 25/09/2022 21:01

Arcadia · 30/08/2022 08:14

Someone writing that they are 'on route' going somewhere rather than 'en route' really bugs me!

Same with ‘on point’. It’s ‘en pointe’.

lizziesiddal79 · 25/09/2022 21:03

Don’t get me started on ‘here, here’ 🤦🏻‍♀️.

Caroffee · 25/09/2022 21:06

Yes.

It's still not as bad as, 'could of' though.

red4321 · 25/09/2022 21:07

Or bare with me (usually triggers an immature giggle)

J0y · 25/09/2022 21:13

I'm Irish and everybody here says cleeeeeek but I noticed on American ttv shows they call it a click.

i agree that language evolves though. My son said rowt! (for route) and he has also pronounced lever lev-ur instead of lee vur. Taht's from watching cars. Also, jillian michaels, he used to listen to me in the back ground doing ''lev-urr'' crunches. No wonder he didn't know what lee-ver was!

I will admit that although I'm old I'm curious and would love to be around to hear how we all speak in a hundred years. Will everybody have an American accent?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 25/09/2022 21:52

alwaystrainers · 25/09/2022 19:33

I feel like I'm the odd one out at work as I see so much "your" instead of "you're", "should of" and the other examples already written. It makes me feel old and alone for wanting it to be written correctly.

Well you have at least one more person here who detests it. There really is no excuse for it.

Nor for:

"I don't like him, his a pain in the backside"
"I'm feeling a bit rubbish this morning, what with been up late last night"

It's not language changing. It's laziness and the fact that many people don't read anything other than social media.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 25/09/2022 21:53

lizziesiddal79 · 25/09/2022 21:03

Don’t get me started on ‘here, here’ 🤦🏻‍♀️.

Where, where? 😹

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 26/09/2022 09:16

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 25/09/2022 21:52

Well you have at least one more person here who detests it. There really is no excuse for it.

Nor for:

"I don't like him, his a pain in the backside"
"I'm feeling a bit rubbish this morning, what with been up late last night"

It's not language changing. It's laziness and the fact that many people don't read anything other than social media.

Me too! It's unbelievable how so many people think it doesn't matter. It's appalling.

Dannexe · 26/09/2022 09:21

So for those for whom boarder is pronounced rhyming with coat does that mean that if you say “snow boarder” the snow and the boarder rhyme?

im struggling to imagine it

CasaDelSoot · 26/09/2022 09:25

Dannexe · 26/09/2022 09:21

So for those for whom boarder is pronounced rhyming with coat does that mean that if you say “snow boarder” the snow and the boarder rhyme?

im struggling to imagine it

Yes that's right @Dannexe

TheOnlyBeeInYourBonnet · 26/09/2022 09:38

Abit, alot, aswell, infact... these made up words drive me bonkers. Use your fucking space bar, people!

I've also noticed a good chunk of MN (and social media generally) can't grasp the difference between breath and breathe anymore.