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Pedants' corner

It's clique not click!

206 replies

Pinkywoo · 30/08/2022 07:01

I'm so sick of seeing this, there's not a cool mum click, it's a clique, and they're not clicky (well if their joints are anything like mine they might be) they're cliquey! and breathe

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AyBeeCee · 30/08/2022 09:24

I'm Scottish and they're pronounced differently here.
Clique as in week
Click as in dick

I've only ever seen clique spelled click on Mumsnet

PAFMO · 30/08/2022 09:28

crabcakesalad · 30/08/2022 07:43

and pique not peak, drives me mad 😠

Whilst we're on it - it's could HAVE, not could of 😖

How do you feel about correct punctuation?

Chewbecca · 30/08/2022 09:29

LaMarschallin · 30/08/2022 08:23

I hope it's something that happens here more than among the general population.

Like the apostrophes that are randomly sprinkled around for what seem purely decorative purposes.

Including on this thread…

Summertimesunshineandfizz · 30/08/2022 09:30

Unfortunately, most of the examples cited do not reflect language evolving but rather literacy declining.

TheMoth · 30/08/2022 09:31

I have to care about this stuff, as it's a large part of my job, but it's getting harder to fight the tide.

I also know that language changes for ease of use etc, etc. But the curious thing about sm needing more people to be literate, is that it just seems to amplify the mistakes alot.😉

Sistanotcista · 30/08/2022 09:36

ilovebeigefood · 30/08/2022 08:57

One I see a lot on social media and on here is...

'I could care less'

It's couldn't care less!! If you could care less, then you would!

I think this is American. Friends from the USA say this, and when I asked, they were genuinely surprised that we say “couldn’t”.
“I could care less” appears to be commonly used in the USA. Totally agree that it makes no sense, though!

Novum · 30/08/2022 09:37

Summertimesunshineandfizz · 30/08/2022 09:30

Unfortunately, most of the examples cited do not reflect language evolving but rather literacy declining.

Exactly. And it just makes things more confusing. Clicky means something very different from cliquey, loose is definitely not the same as lose, ditto bare and bear, boarder and border, and so on. As for "would of", "could of" and similar, the problem there is that "of" just doesn't work as a verb.

Creativecrafts · 30/08/2022 09:40

It's still clique even if most people get it wrong. Click means something different. Also bear / bare. Different spellings, different meanings.

MagpiePi · 30/08/2022 09:40

Someone referred to a 'tik for tak' situation recently, and I've seen 'few' instead of 'phew'.

Also, when wounds 'heel' or, alternatively, 'heals' (and 'souls' ) on people's feet. Or should that be 'feat'?

Sistanotcista · 30/08/2022 09:42

MajorCarolDanvers · 30/08/2022 08:15

You are defiantly right.

😀😀

Inklingpot · 30/08/2022 09:43

Summertimesunshineandfizz · 30/08/2022 09:30

Unfortunately, most of the examples cited do not reflect language evolving but rather literacy declining.

Yes, indeed. The ability to express oneself coherently in writing no longer seems to matter to many people and if you try to suggest that perhaps it should, you get dismissed and accused of being a tedious pedant.

Though I think some people posting on this thread haven’t noticed that it’s in Pedants’ Corner.

ChateauMargaux · 30/08/2022 09:44

TheMoth · 30/08/2022 09:31

I have to care about this stuff, as it's a large part of my job, but it's getting harder to fight the tide.

I also know that language changes for ease of use etc, etc. But the curious thing about sm needing more people to be literate, is that it just seems to amplify the mistakes alot.😉

@TheMoth ... so what is your take on clique being used to mean a group of people and click to mean the same thing when the original meaning of both means either a sound or a locking mechanism?

BadgeronaMoped · 30/08/2022 09:51

I often spot people meaning discreet but using the word discrete. Also see phased, when they mean fazed.

pantherrose · 30/08/2022 09:51

When people talk or write about taking something 'off' someone, for example " I took his pocket money off him for being rude"
Conjures up images of a child with coins and banknotes stuck to his clothes!
Surely an item, privilege or whatever is taken from or away from you, given that you are unlikely to be wearing it!

Novum · 30/08/2022 09:53

pantherrose · 30/08/2022 09:51

When people talk or write about taking something 'off' someone, for example " I took his pocket money off him for being rude"
Conjures up images of a child with coins and banknotes stuck to his clothes!
Surely an item, privilege or whatever is taken from or away from you, given that you are unlikely to be wearing it!

I don't mind that one and I don't think it's incorrect. But "off of" is dreadful.

pigalow27 · 30/08/2022 09:55

I hate 'right' of passage and confusing discreet with discrete

HMReturnsBag · 30/08/2022 09:59

Though I think some people posting on this thread haven’t noticed that it’s in Pedants’ Corner.

I'm not sure that means people aren't allowed to talk about language change or notions of correctness. There was a time when Pedants' Corner was full of interesting discussions about language rather than just a lot of grumbling.

I don't see "click" as an example of language change particularly- it's a long-standing variant of "clique". I'm also not sure that people who use it are trying to write "clique" and spelling it wrong- they're simply using a variant. It's different from "border"/"boarder" and so on, which are obviously misspellings.

BeggarsMeddle · 30/08/2022 10:07

Sistanotcista · 30/08/2022 09:36

I think this is American. Friends from the USA say this, and when I asked, they were genuinely surprised that we say “couldn’t”.
“I could care less” appears to be commonly used in the USA. Totally agree that it makes no sense, though!

I wonder whether it's a form of shorthand.

When Americans say 'I could care less' I hear 'I could care less but can't be bothered to waste my time thinking about it'.

AquaticSewingMachine · 30/08/2022 10:13

My personal favourite is "viscous circle".

I like to picture the liquid glooping around... very... slowly...

I also do enjoy the mental image conjured up by people demanding others "bare with them". it's the only way not to go nuts

Dilbertian · 30/08/2022 10:49

SunnyD44 · 30/08/2022 09:07

Meh, I can’t get worked up over spelling or grammar mistakes.

Not everyone is a good speller, has English as a first language and some people are use voice to text.

Then why bother to post in Pedants' Corner?

Dilbertian · 30/08/2022 10:57

Arcadia · 30/08/2022 08:14

Someone writing that they are 'on route' going somewhere rather than 'en route' really bugs me!

I rather like 'on route'. It's a perfect example of Anglicising a French expression, as the meaning remains the same in both languages.

Unlike 'on suite', which does not work. And is therefore an abomination.

GenuineKlatchianPottery · 30/08/2022 10:58

Just thought of another one I see a lot. Affects and effects.
“It’s going to really effect them”. “I was going through their affects”.

PAFMO · 30/08/2022 11:01

Inklingpot · 30/08/2022 09:43

Yes, indeed. The ability to express oneself coherently in writing no longer seems to matter to many people and if you try to suggest that perhaps it should, you get dismissed and accused of being a tedious pedant.

Though I think some people posting on this thread haven’t noticed that it’s in Pedants’ Corner.

And, then again, some of us have been on PC for about 20 years, and remember fondly when it was used by intelligent posters who liked to discuss language quirks. Sadly, after the Mumsnet demographic changed about 10 years ago, it became more of a "point and laugh at the thicko" corner.

waterlego · 30/08/2022 11:02

SierraSapphire · 30/08/2022 08:01

Choritzo seems to be the common pronunciation of chorizo too. Even by people I've corrected many times Grin.

My husband says ‘choritzio’. How I haven’t killed him yet, I don’t know.

Ontopofthesunset · 30/08/2022 11:15

To be fair, 'pooh' is the traditional spelling and the spelling 'poo' is quite recent. I'm in my mid 50s and 'pooh' was the correct spelling when I was a child; it's the only spelling given in my Collins dictionary from 1991 which is only 30 years ago ('poo' isn't even given as an alternative). So when people who spell it 'poo' complain about people spelling it 'pooh', it's the same as people who say or spell it 'click' complaining about people using 'clique'. I can adapt my spelling and do, but 'poo' will always look wrong to me.