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Pedants' corner

To suggest that people use this time to learn the difference between..

143 replies

LidlDonkey · 07/04/2020 11:19

Your and you're
Their, they're and there

And when to use an apostrophe.

OP posts:
BrooHaHa · 07/04/2020 13:43

Was this originally on AIBU? It's showing up as pendants' corner on mine and I can't see a MNHQ post to indicate that it was moved.

DappledThings · 07/04/2020 14:01

Was this originally on AIBU? It's showing up as pendants' corner on mine and I can't see a MNHQ post to indicate that it was moved

It definitely was in AIBU first. The phrasing of the title only really makes sense if it is preceded by AIBU

SoupDragon · 07/04/2020 14:01

Was this originally on AIBU?

Yes. That's why the title is worded as it is.

Thedogscollar · 07/04/2020 18:08

Thank you Lyingwitch and Canterbury for seeing this OP for what it was, having a laugh people who struggle with SPAG.

I have worked with many student nurses and midwives over the years who are dyslexic, but in no way did this hold them back from the fantastic job they are doing now.

I know a nursing sister in ITU who has dyslexia but by God she knows her job inside out. I do hope those who choose to mock and laugh at people with dyslexia don't need her services anytime soon.

BrooHaHa · 07/04/2020 18:16

Yes. That's why the title is worded as it is.

Some people pose AIBU questions in places other than AIBU because they're scared of the vipers.

SoupDragon · 07/04/2020 19:05

Some people pose AIBU questions in places other than AIBU because they're scared of the vipers.

Not this one.

BrooHaHa · 07/04/2020 19:07

Not this one.

Fair enough. Just wondered.

SoupDragon · 07/04/2020 19:08

So sorry I bothered to answer your question though.

SpillTheTeaa · 07/04/2020 22:08

I do hope those who choose to mock and laugh at people with dyslexia don't need her services anytime soon.

Just because someone doesn't know the different between your and you're etc doesn't mean they have dyslexia...

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/04/2020 22:42

SpillTheTeaa, So, if somebody doesn't have dyslexia, they deserve to be mocked and laughed at?

How would anybody else even know whether somebody has it or not?

I'm glad that other posters also dislike seeing this sort of thread and stand up to it. The ganging up and ridiculing of posters who use SPaG transgressions as an excuse is just pathetic.

Thedogscollar, there are many posters who challenge this, every time they see it, it's an absolute blight. As you say, it doesn't hold people with dyslexia back and nor should it.

suggestionsplease1 · 07/04/2020 23:16

I do some work as an adult literacy tutor and grammar issues frequently crop up. Should I hand in my resignation?

Nobody should be mocked or laughed at for poor grammar but to pretend it doesn't make a difference in the world is unrealistic. I speak to too many employers to pretend otherwise. And yes, I work with many students on vocational courses and many of the best of them don't have perfect grammar (and neither do I, of course). It can still matter.

Thedogscollar · 07/04/2020 23:24

Thankyou LyingWitchInTheWardrope You put my arguement over far more eloquently than I ever could.

SpilltheTeaa Many people have different skills and qualities. I'd rather be understanding of people with spag issues than someone like the original poster of this thread whose tone imo was mocking and sneering.

EmeraldShamrock · 07/04/2020 23:28

Just because someone doesn't know the different between your and you're etc doesn't mean they have dyslexia True. They obviously didn't have a good education or mentor. I learnt feck all in school. I won't go into the reason why. Many DC have alcoholic or drug addicts parent's. Many DC are often hungry in school or wondering will Dad bash Mam later or will I eat later, there is poverty, sexual abuse, they leave school as soon as employable at 16 in a menial job where SPAG doesn't matter. Live their life until they stumble across mumsnet to be told aha your dumb, all those steps you achieved are worthless.
They might see the there their they're in a book, unless someone explains the difference it means Jack shit.

Thedogscollar · 08/04/2020 00:57

EmeraldShamrock I bloody love your post.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 08/04/2020 08:57

I make so many mistakes in my own posts, I know the difference between 'their' and 'they're', 'of' and 'have' and they'll still pop up in my posts. Not in my written work so I put it down to speed and not concentrating because I'm on a chatboard. I've never seen anybody say that SPaG isn't important, not anywhere, it is but, as CanterburyWhales said, it's a chatboard, not a literacy lesson.

My last post has a fundamental error on it, it should read 'by the posters who use SPaG transgressions as an excuse', not 'of'. But, the objective is for people to understand and context is everything.

Every single time I see one of these threads I imagine an OP who isn't held in particularly high regard by the people that matter to them, feel that they aren't listened to, haven't achieved what the wanted to - or some combination. I think that because it takes some kind of special impetus for somebody to launch a diatribe about something they perceive as lacking that many people can't help. That they themselves make mistakes in their posts, they ignore, but feel that other people are fair game. That's something very lacking indeed, but not of the posters 'committing' SPaG atrocities.

The fact that Jocasta didn't understand why a doctor didn't correct a patient referring to 'prostrate' when they meant 'prostate' speaks volumes. So little understanding of the fact that well-rounded and emotionally intelligent people don't need to 'red pen' their way through life, picking up people on their errors all the time.

Firsttimelottie made a great suggestion about the OP teaching the correct meanings/context of words instead of mocking. Unsurprising that there are no takers for that. Says so much that making people feel worse for their written skills is more desirable. If there really were concern about SPaG 'failures', then what more opportunity? But it's not the case and never was, it's the 'joy' of pointing and laughing.

I am invested in this and I loath seeing cowardly threads like this where the intention is clear however much an OP wants to cloak it. I'm glad that I'm not on my own there.

iCorona · 09/04/2020 08:47

@EmeraldShamrock great post but I don’t think it’s always that deep. Many people know the difference between the spellings but just make the odd mistake. Maybe some people are better at proofreading, care more or are just more consistent. It’s just normal human diversity. What I find odd is that people look down on people who make mistakes so much. I’m amazing at doing some things (doesn’t make me better than anyone) and I’m not so great at others (doesn’t make me worse than anyone else). I assume everyone else is the same. I’ve never seen a thread on how people who only speak one language need to sort themselves out, or people who can’t paint or play the piano are stupid. But I have lost count of the spelling comments and threads I have read. Why do spelling pedants care so much?

TheCanterburyWhales · 09/04/2020 23:19

Well, another thread has just been started whining about bad spelling.
With 2 mistakes in the thread title.
Which is ever so satisfying.

Lynda07 · 10/04/2020 23:03

Yes. It's beyond me why people don't learn considering the amount of criticism they receive. I'm sure if I was told I'd written something wrongly, I'd make an effort not to do it again.

Starting paragraphs with, 'So', or even starting a thread with the word, is very annoying too.

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