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Pismonunciations that drive you nuts

288 replies

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 09/03/2017 21:49

I'm sure you've all got your particular teeth-clenching, fingernails-on-blackboard nemesis.

Today's offering: they did "drawring" in Art.

I will break him of that habit. I will!

OP posts:
Daisymay2 · 19/03/2017 19:53

somethink and anythink drive me mad! They don't say think instead of thing.

Haffdonga · 19/03/2017 19:57

i am old. People said have said 'Can't be arsed ' for many many years before the erroneous can't be asked crept in.

It's can't be ARSED.

WhatWouldKeanuDo · 19/03/2017 19:59

I am old and concur.

lht22 · 19/03/2017 20:02

Sorry if it's already been mentioned, I haven't RTFT but I've heard loads of reality TV people using 'generally' in place of 'genuinely' recently.
As in, 'I generally like you, I really do', I know they mean genuinely but it really gets on my nerves!

Haffdonga · 19/03/2017 20:09

I have a colleague who regularly uses the word 'premise' when he means 'premises'. As in we met at their premise because it was more central. They rent out a room at their premise for meetings.

Is this a new usage or just one particularly irritating colleague?

Ontopofthesunset · 19/03/2017 20:12

Can't be arsed is the original phrase and I'm over 50 too. Can't be asked is like 'another thing coming' - wrong.

But going back to the OP's point, I say 'droring' (probably) but it is a very subtle 'r'. That's simply because it is much easier to say and presumably the way many elisions or insertions occur. I'm not clear on whether you say 'draw-wing', pronouncing the w which is not pronounced in the original root word so would also be an interpolation or 'draw-ing' (the same as dror-ing in my non rhotic accent) which requires the speaker to stop in the middle of the word and reposition the mouth. The 'r' is inserted as a bridge between the two syllables and I don't think it's wrong - it's just an evolution of language to make it easier to say. That's why people say 'liberry' not 'library' ( I say 'libry').

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 20:43

Citation needed Gerty

GertyTheGert · 19/03/2017 20:43

Sorry it IS asked - arsed isn't the phrase - have a think about it - it was corrupted by the arksed brigade! There is no "other" meaning - it means I can't be bothered, end of! Whether you are 50 60, 70 it is asked! I am not sure where you think arsed makes meaning out of the phrase any way - doh!

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 20:44

I think 'can't be asked' it rather like 'could care less'.

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 20:45

Can you prove this in any way though Gerty?
It's doesn't seem to have an entry in my Brewers.

ArriettyClock1 · 19/03/2017 20:48

My (otherwise intelligent) colleague says 'anythink'. I am such a pedant that I tell him, regularly, that it's wrong, but he still does it.

He also says 'drawring'.

iklboo · 19/03/2017 20:49

My GRAN used to say 'arsed' and she would have been 100 next Sunday.

GertyTheGert · 19/03/2017 20:50

Ivyleague - citation? Look it up yersel'! It is a corrupted phrase! In the 1990s or thereabouts. Do you think arsed is a word? Aint! And how does anyone think "it doesn't make sense if the word is asked"?!! I did explain why I thought maybe the person was 40-ish (re the corrupted phrase being @ the nineties - twas nowt to do with age per se.........)

Anyways, any takers for "I should of known.."?

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 20:51

But 'can't be asked' doesn't make sense. You can ask someone to do something until you are blue in the face, if they can't be bothered then they simply won't.

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 20:52

Do you think arsed is a word? Aint!

Arsed is as much of a word as ain't is.

iklboo · 19/03/2017 20:55

Of course arsed is a word - it's in the OED. In a sentence - 'he arsed about all day instead of working'.

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 20:56

Gerty
Here is 'can't be arsed' used in print in 1968:

concretejungle · 19/03/2017 21:07

My 4 year old says "constructions" instead of "instructions". Cute! And to be fair, they are usually instructions for building something so he's not too wrong!

GertyTheGert · 19/03/2017 21:11

Three examples from the press.......

"NEWS - Can't Be Asked To Set Up Cauvery Board, Centre Tells Supreme Court"

"If I would not do anything (as opposed to something), regardless of who asked me to do it (you, or you, or you), then I truly can't be asked.' Apparently in the 1990s people changed it to arsed and it just stuck."

"I can't be asked is a common phrase in the UK for I can't be bothered."

GertyTheGert · 19/03/2017 21:12

Yes, Ivy, the CORRUPTED phrase!

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 21:15

You said Gerty that the phrase changed in the 90s from asked to arsed. The example I gave was the phrase 'can't be arsed' in print in the 1960s.

GertyTheGert · 19/03/2017 21:18

Gawd I used various words in my replying message as a jokey thing? ie aint; twas nowt...... anyways we were (Iklboo) talking about the phrase I can't be asked, not he arsed about all day. I say Arse over Tit but it literally does mean arse over tit!!!!! Or when I am at work A over T :-)

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 21:19

"NEWS - Can't Be Asked To Set Up Cauvery Board, Centre Tells Supreme Court"

And the sub heading to that items reads: The Centre on Monday told Supreme Court that it cannot be directed to set up the Cauvery Water Management Board (CWMB), but was setting up a technical panel to assess the ground realities to defuse the wrangle between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu.

It means that it CANNOT BE DIRECTED not that it can't be bothered.

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 21:21

"If I would not do anything (as opposed to something), regardless of who asked me to do it (you, or you, or you), then I truly can't be asked.' Apparently in the 1990s people changed it to arsed and it just stuck."

This comes from a forum so is simply the opinion of one person.

fruitbrewhaha · 19/03/2017 21:22

pitcher instead of picture.

haitch in place of aitch as in the letter H

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