Why is it on mumsnet?

[Howcouldyou]

That if you wish to feed your children healthy food,
not smoke when you are pg,
look after them and make sure they are safe
I could go on and on..............
you are ridiculed for basically being a responsible parent?
I do hope that the views on mumsnet do not reflect society as a whole, what a scary thought.
I have changed my name as I know that if I said who I was as usual I would be shot down in flames.

Oooh, this sounds fun - haven't got time now but I'll be back!

hehehehehe tigermoth - me too!

Am v much like MI - minus the parsley, Waitrose and the organic delivery.
Oh and have smacked v occasionally, but feel ashamed about it.
Am surprised anyone can afford a house of any kind, ever, in London or indeed most parts of the country.
No affairs chez Blu, either.
But there might be if DP let's DS choose mauve shoes again. (I, as in me, not DP, have fought a furious and lenghty battle to get orthotics to give us more than one pair of shoes at a time - and dp let ds choose a MAUVE pair. Dores myy irritation make me an illiberal prisoner of gender stereotypes??)

at this thread.

haven't had time to read it all - do we have an archetypal mumsnetter yet?

Me - drink beer (ale - lager and lime is for wussies), don't shop at tescos, think the benefit system in the UK is fair, if under-generous (and they should bring back grants for cookers and things), not on a diet, smoke rather a lot.

As for the thought of going to the gym or doing all my clothes shopping at boden - eeek! charity shops and sitting around with a cup of tea and a fag for me, thank you very much.

has anyone just called it like it is and mentioned North/South MC/WC school/or further education divides yet or are we all tiptoeing around using behavioural and taste allusions?

what I really meant to say was

Has this thing kicked off yet?

dont think that has been mentioned yet suzy, no

good point

Eat organic - yes

Shop at Tesco - very occasionally, prefer Waitrose but mostly go to M & S food hall or Sainsbury (as nearer)

No herb garden, but have gigantic bay tree growing outside and a few herbs in pots in the greenhouse

Wine - yes
Lager - no

Professional mum - yes (thanks for that term Custardo, I'm going to use that to describe myself from now on)

Gym - yes
Diet- no

Hate dinner parties
Prefer lunches

Don't smoke except when with Custardo

B/fed - yes
benefits - don't think they're all scroungers

Do read Telegraph but it's too right wing
Don't read Guardian, it's too left wing

Chav - still think its a word invented by people to describe themselves who want to ally themselves with a certain fashion/lifestyle group

Don't smack, don't curl up in corner, do "raise my voice" occasionally but only at dh

Dh better not be having an affair or even thinking of having an affair

Don't have cleaner, had a gardener for 7 years but currently have a tree surgeon

I can't be a typical m/netter though cos I can't abide Tony Blair and didn't vote Labour

what have MCs and WCs got to do with it?

actually I think I need the toilet/loo/bog (delete as appropriate).

Oh sorry! Forgot Boden, dd wears quite a lot, I have been known to buy the odd T-shirt or cardi for myself.

Guffaw@ale swilling SP

Cam - no, it stands for Council house something something (so somebody told me).

I have never heard anyone use it about themselves. Perhaps that's because I live abroad though.

You're neck of the woods is full of them SP, well a little further down the coast at least

sorry that was deliberately inflammatory and not in the spirit of MN

Oh does it SP? Wonder what the AV part means then?

I have only heard it used by someone about themselves - but then I do live in Chav Central

so do I Cam

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you should know rickman

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custrado has just made ny day. nt been about much recently due to a variey of shitty factors oops sorry mn s***y i mean and she has just made me laugh out loud
thanks custy

I thought CHAV stood for "council house and violence"????

Yes Pruni, you should be able to use it without changing your name. It's an EXCELLENT term, no different from calling someone a yuppy, dinky, sloane.

I also like the term NEET (Not in Employment, Education or Training). I think both terms describe a sociological phenomena!!!

And if you've never heard of a NEET, don't shoot me down, I didn't make it up. It does not refer to SAHMs, it refers to young people with no aspiration or direction after they leave school, who live permanently on benefits. Felt the need to qualify that before someone kicks off about it.

Oh and my sister thinks she's a chav and she's quite proud of it. In fact, she's a NEET and doesn't realise it

Oh custy, you turned this round in such a brilliant way!

I hold my hands up as follows:

• Regular Ocadist and sustainable (not always organic) shopper
• Long-term breastfed both children.
• Read Telegraph to applaud literacy, enjoy health and parenting features and fume righteously at politics
• Do not think people on benefits are spongers A proper welfare system is one of the cornerstones of a civilised democratic society
• Also would not use "chav" and don't really like stereotyping of this sort myself
• am also proud owner of dead rosemary bush
• Sunday lunch is as good as it gets now. Dinner parties - never really got into that, house has always been too messy!
• am highly-educated in lowish-paid, risible-status profession
• drink real ale, wine but not spirits any more. Retain lingering affection for pints of snakebite but my liver calls the shots
• recycle and use eco-products when feasible, exception being disappointing performance of Ecover clothes detergent.
• shop at Boden for the children, in sales and when I can get discount. Catalogue is blech but the stuff is good quality.
• am lucky to have house of any sort and have huge sympathy for anyone unable to get on to housing ladder. Wish like much of continental Europe lifelong renting was seen as OK across all sectors/in all areas
• tend not to post very personal stuff but can see how it helps others to do so. What some people go through on here gives me a wake-up call about how basically lucky I am
• no cleaner since lovely but hopeless one got pregnant. Relief all round, I think!
• have curly-up screamy moments occasionally but realise again I have little to grumble about

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Am bored and baby asleep so will amuse myself doing this

So how many of Custardo's comments do you all fit?

Have mostly cut and pasted from tigermoth's as nearly identical

Shopping - never food shopped online. Shop at Sainsburies sometimes, usually Morrisons/Lidl. Never stepped inside a Waitrose let alone shopped there.

Rarely buy organic unless it is reduced (unless I happen to be near a farmer's market - once or twice a year)

Don't use the word Chav but that's because it's a southern thing. Can't get too overly upset by its use - probably because don't hear it used except on here.

Read the Independent and Observer.

Think most people on benefits are fully entitled to them

Don't have dinner parties

Like lager and wine most evenings as I gulp not sip my drinks

My garden is full of no mainenance shubs and weeds

Neither of us "professionals"

Never had a cleaner

Try to keep private life private

Do recycle **

Buy clothes from anywhere but am tight. Do ebay searches for Boden clothes but never buy them. Have bought them once in sale.

Can see many reasons why everyone can't afford a house in the burbs even if they try hard.

Don't go to the gym

Not on a diet

Smack sometimes

Breast fed** but not exclusively

Don't smoke**

Shout at children, shout at husband, shout at myself, shout at life