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General chat for cloth nappy users: Part 15 - the one where fluffy post saves the Royal Mail.

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treedeLivingDeadery · 29/10/2009 23:00

New thread.

May our nights be dry, our days free of wicking, and may growth spurts coincide with lovely new fluffy product releases. Hurrah!

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treedeLivingDeadery · 09/11/2009 23:57

Oh bless him

I see the GP point about the infection fighting business, but if that is so why is it only where the nappies are?

I might smear yogurt on, it is meant to be very soothing. Also egg white but I bet you have tried that.

Can you ask for a dermatology review? You have great pictures and a dermatologist would look at them for you.

Could you see one private? Expense I know but.....if they fix it it's worth anything isn't it. for you that you are facing this though, it is not unlike what we went through with Hatts. Searching searching searching for answers.

I do think that no matter how we love them , washables are warmer than dispos, which adult users of similar products say are actually chilly. Maybe that might be significant if this is, say, 'straight forward' dermatitis. I suppose also, gel filled dispos [as well as being evil work against the planet] keep wee in one place, locked up. Rather than a wet all over nappy. Oh dear I don't sound like a washable lover

When I get bad sunburn, and as a child, I remember it would be in lines and waves. I know exctly what you mean.

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JennyPennyNAPPYWEB · 10/11/2009 08:31

I have been up ALL night with Elouise. I got home from the gym/tesco at 10pm ish last night and DH had brought her downstairs as she was screaming the place down (and she now shares her room with Talia) but I had assumed she would just go back to sleep. She did for about 20mins and then woke up screaming again. Took her to bed with me and let her watch TV in bed but she was just messing around on the bed and then when I turned the TV off so it would be dark she screamed the place down again . After battling for hours I eventually gave in at about 2.30-3am and just came down here and let her play. She has just gone to sleep at 8am . But of course Talia is awake so I can't sleep! ARGH! Got a million and one things to do today too!

Octo - your fleece wipes arn't done yet, I am waiting for my Dad to make me a proper template to speed it up as at the moment it takes hours to get wipes done. Hoping that if he makes me a wooden template, then I can just cut round the outside instead of have to faff around with rulers etc and making sure they are the right size.

Trying to keep eyes open!

NappyShedSal · 10/11/2009 09:03

Jenny, I think you would be best buying a long metal ruler and then you've just got to cut long straight lines. If you try and cut around the outside of a square template you will invariably end up taking little nicks at each corner which will then affect the next wipe. Also cutting around a square will take alot longer than just cutting straight lines.

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Octothebaglady · 10/11/2009 09:51

I thought you had a machine lol!!

The rash looks like an allergic reaction rather than an infection. Def put something soothing on it and would use disps - if it goes in the disps then you you can start eliminating different environmental influences such as washing powder, creams etc and bath stuff. Same goes for food if he is eating. Would leave out all the reaction foods like egg, tomatoes, wheat, citrus fruit, cows milk... may be worth seeing a homeopath who may be able to work out the cause and a natural remedy. Once it is under control start using your cloth again as you will know the cause - if it is the elastic in his covers or nappies which is causing the rash then need to look at ones without elastic ie. fleece over terries!

ds3 had a rash recently and they said it was bacterial - on this skin - had antibiotics to clear it up. He gets excema uner his chin badly and we use HC on it to control it when bad.

JennyPennyNAPPYWEB · 10/11/2009 14:00

No I only have a rotatory cutter. I did buy a long metal ruler and a self healing board for it BUT the thing is, when we are talking such big bits of fleece, I can't get anywhere near it all on the board or in the lenth of the ruler, so it ends up being wonky and I have to keep cutting it out again, making more waste. Think maybe I am just being stingy but wanting not use it all instead of having loads of off cuts. It just seems a waste, and its taking too much time to make it worth the while doing it. But I do want to carry on with them, as want to do a whole load and then do a bit of a promotion locally, mainly to get other Mums using them etc. If I can get them done quicker, I can do them wholesale too. But not at this speed.

cheeksandcherries · 10/11/2009 18:05

Rach I agree - looks like an allergic reaction to me (although, not dermatologist!).

You definitely didn't use a fleece liner in those Cotton Tots, did you? I have come across a few people whose babies have allergies to microfleece. Otherwise... maybe it's a type of cotton? what was that pillow made from that he had a reaction to?

Or perhaps it is a 'contact' rash, and dispos will just have to be the way to go :-(

Poor you and him... really hope it clears up soon.

ager · 10/11/2009 18:15

Hello everyone, I've been avoiding this thread for a while as I don't have any money to spend at the moment and don't want to be tempted. AIO Ittis don't appeal as I'm not overly keen on the others to be honest. A jazzed up prefold imho. Just deciding to join a postnatal thread or not and noticed Jenny's dd born on 24/04? That is dd2's birthday too. Hope your weaning is going better than mine and where do you get all your time and energy from?

Haven't got time to read everything but boo to nappy rash. DD2 gets it on her thighs and tummy but I've started to think that the stuff in dispoes is probably far worse.

I have 8 MF bags , 2 of each size, now you know why I don't have any money atm.....

JennyPennyNAPPYWEB · 10/11/2009 18:48

Hi ya ager! Yes thats Talias birthday! And to answer your question - I have no time or energy! LOL. Haven't been on the postnatal thread for that reason - does it move as fast as the antinatal one? I tried a few times with the antinatal thread but I would litterally be gone a couple of hours and there were pages and pages to read through! Didn't like to just always post about me but didn't have the time to keep reading. Weaning is going well. If anything I have to try and not give her too much. I wanted to do BLW but when it came to it I didn't like it so just went for mashing up whatever I had made Elouise (22 months) and she loves it. Elousie doesn't eat much but Talia loves it so it ends up that they eat the same amount most of the time - even though there is 16 months difference! She would eat more if I let her and sometimes finishes off Elouise's! Rachel from this thread is april 09 too. Think her DS is about 1 week older than Talia and your DD2

Rachel - have you tried a minki lined nappy? They are so soft - I always use them when mine are sore. Not sure if it helps, but mine have always been sore if I use cotton nappies, but I have hard water so I think its because they come out so crunchy and hard.

Am of your 8 monkeyfootbags ager! I only have one of my own which is for the wipes. But I do have a whole box full upstairs for the site and have been tempted! I am tempted take a large one or XL for when we are out but TBH I have loads of cheap ones that I am always loosing and I think the MF ones are too good to be lost! LOL. I am always using my wipes one, even though thats the only one I have

4andnotout · 10/11/2009 19:50

I actually found my missing mf wipe bag yesterday so I'm back to having 4 which doesn't look so bad now!

Still resting, I'm not complaining that's for sure !

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thebluefoxategreensocks · 10/11/2009 21:11

Thanks sooo much for all the replies about Clement's rash. Been busy today, so only now trying to answer questions/update!

His rash didn't get any worse overnight, and that was with a cloth nappy over the disposable, plus a wrap (as he wees OUT of a disposable every night!), which further adds to the dislike of paper nappies, since they'll not cope with him at nights! So can't be heat making the infection return, since he had 2 nappies on and it didn't look worse!

But by later today it has spread a bit further, rather red scrotum - and oddly enough, he's ended up with a patch on his thigh (as before), but this time the creases of his legs are free of rash. So it's spread to thigh, with clear area between!! And it was specifically the fact that he had it in the creases of his legs before that made the GP even more convinced it was fungal/thrush (since it was in moist/warm place). Sooo, I'm thinking this makes it all the more likely to be a contact rash. And maybe the patch on this thigh is from where the Cotton Tots was on his thigh (over the disposable) overnight.

I had wondered at once stage if he'd become allergic to bamboo (or bamboozles, in particular) since that is what he wore 95% of the time, so that's why I boil-washed the Cotton Tots, so he could try something different. And most of the CT nappies hadn't been worn when he had the thrush, so it's very unlikely that anything was re-infecting him (even in spite of the 95 degree wash), since they'd been put away and not used for weeks/months previously.

But, I'm wondering if it's possible that the seam where the booster is attached to the nappy could be rubbing on his skin? It's an overlocked edge there, isn't it? And a bit rough. And even when folded over, still a bulk of cloth. And I know a lot of eczema suffers (or parents with E children) talk about seams bothering them, and turning clothing inside out so the seams don't make them itch. So just maybe he's very sensitive to that, as the wavy line of redness is right where that booster attaches to the nappy. I think he's probably been wearing a size 2 Tots Bots (either Bamboo or cotton) each time the rash has come back, so maybe a seam free smooth nappy (something with a loose booster, or velour lined) wouldn't be so bad. But whatever the case, I think if I can get the rash to go away, I'll keep him in disposables for a few weeks to see if it well and truly stays away with them, before trying any form of cloth again.

As for fleece liners, he's allergic to them anyway, so it was a paper liner he was wearing. Not tried minki liners on him, but when I used minki wipe on him he went a bit red, so I think he might react to it too!

Sorry to bug everyone with my long detailed messages, but I usually find I get more helpful/intelligent advice from other mums, rather than GPs, who can often be very clueless!

mumface · 10/11/2009 21:18

I am catching up with Ager, I got MF bag no.5 today, flybyday for the boys room.I even chose one to match the living room colours (almond sparrows) Got my eye on red peonies now!

JennyPennyNAPPYWEB · 10/11/2009 21:50

I prefer the AIOS when it comes to ittis. I hated the snap in ones.

Might use an X large MF bag for the gym as I come home with wet stuff as I shower and use the steam room, But really it will end up shoved inside my fitness first rucksack so not much point?!

LackaDAISYcal · 11/11/2009 00:03

rachel, have you tried silk liners or Octo's silver ones?

If the cotton tots are nippa fastening, you could try them inside out? ie with the booster against the wrap?

We had so many of these issues with DD, and her rahses were worst around her thighs so concluded it was the bindings. changing to fleece lined pockets helped for a bit, but we could only have her on cloth 50% of the time or else it wouldn't stay under control. Still I figured 50% was better than nothing.

Another that helped initially was using "bambo" sposies as shop avialable nappies were just as bad in the beginning.

Maybe he is just one of those babies that isn't good in cloth?

thebluefoxategreensocks · 11/11/2009 00:32

daisy: not tried silk yet (forgot!), but have a couple of silver liners coming in the post (preloved) which I hope to try - maybe even in a sposie for now! lol

Some of the cotton tots were nippa ones (have about 5) so that's an idea, but I think the binding on the legs annoyed him too. Certainly early on he seemed to be best in soft & flexible nappies, like a Holden's Landing tri-tone (total lovely soft bamboo velour) and another soft bamboo nappy, without any "abrupt" edges. If only he could tolerate fleece inners, but fleece makes him go red once the nappy is wet. His big sister was the same - so far her only sensitivity to anything ever!

But I think that it might be possible to interject cloth here and there, as we did for about 2 days without any problems. But as soon as I went all cloth the whole day, problems returned! But I think I need to stick with all disposables for a good week or two before trying certain cloth ones again, so I can see if it will come back after a few days regardless.

Did your little one have dry-ness around the rash, sort of flaky skin? Because Clement has had patches around the rash area where there are bits of loose skin, like it's dry skin in connection with eczema, perhaps. I'm guessing ordinary nappy rash wouldn't be quite like this.

LackaDAISYcal · 11/11/2009 09:35

she did; she had oval patches that were dry and flaky round the outside and red sore in the middle. The HV thought it was ringworm, but fungal cream didn't clear it up. the next idea was discoid eczema, but we never got a definate diagnosis of that.

What about some of Jenny's bamboo pocket nappies? might be worth a try of one?

I am at the leg knitting stage of my longies and really stuck. I have leg 2 and the front and back crotch on stitch holders and the remaining leg stitches on DPNs. I need to pick up six stitches to make the thighs big enough, but I cannot understand the pattern for the life of me. Can anyone translate? "USe your working yarn to pick up the stitches on both soides of the crotch gusset (form individual stitches by drawing your working yarn through the stitches right next to each of the stitch holders, dividing your new stitches evenly among both sides) and out these stitches onto your first DPN"

I sort of understand what it's trying to do, but I can't see where I'm picking the stitches up from?

I need to start a thread in arts and crafts I think.

poorly DC still here; bumble's temp is a steady 38 with calpol and nurofen; spiking 40 without and now DD is losing her voice and complaining of a sore throat.

Octothebaglady · 11/11/2009 09:39

As much as it goes against everything, I would put him in disps for a bit - try getting in touch with Flame on here - she had real problems with her ds and is a nappy person too so may be able to shed more light on it. I would say its an elastic allergy myself. If he was allergic to cotton, then would be rash all over due to his clothes - but they generally just have leastic in their nappies/round tummies - where the rash is.

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treedelivery · 11/11/2009 13:09

We got that dry flaky skin when H had bad nappy scalds cue to the acidic poo she made. That went when dairy intolerance sorted.
I think it is a healing type reaction, the skin needs to go as it is passed healing, to reveal a new layer in good condition.

Daisy - I think perhaps you are typing mandarin. Def some foreign language or other. No idea mate.

Very at those of you who can knit your own. Am awaiting MIL to do our longies impatiently and ungratefully

ChocOrange05 · 11/11/2009 14:21

Am I wrong to be excited that 2 new nappies are due in the post anyday now?? What has my life come to?

LackaDAISYcal · 11/11/2009 14:35

tree, if I can get this problem sorted, I may start taking comissions

lol Choco, welcome to our world

Wooooo fluffy post for me today Got my pumpkin pants thanks Octo and have hand pre-washed them as I did a full nappy wash last night. Now they just NEED to be dry for bedtime. I'm intrigued with them actually as they don't seem thick enough for nightime use

Liners are great thanks; they'll do the job (which, after all is just catching poo ) just fine!

lol tree, knitting patterns seem like that sometimes, especially using American ones! I've asked for help on CNT....and am waiting for someone to get back to me. I need Scotia, she has done hers on circular pins I'm sure.

thebluefoxategreensocks · 11/11/2009 14:48

Rash on Clement can't be from poo, as he does them very infrequently, and when he does, they mostly go up his back side, rather than in the front. So the rash is really where poo never touches!

I put the medicine on him again last night, but of course, the hydrocortisone in it might be what makes it go down, if it's eczema or similar. It's less angry today, certainly less red, but I just wonder if the shadow of it ever goes away totally.

JennyPennyNAPPYWEB · 11/11/2009 16:03

Elouise has an awful sore bum . She gets it when she has citrus fruits and yesterday she had a fruit salad pot. It had a bit of kiwi in it, but it was such a tiny amount, and she loves it so I just let her have it. And by lunchtime she had done 3 poos and was bleeding and couldn't sit down. It litterally burns her bum when she has it .

Octothebaglady · 11/11/2009 16:33

jenny - is called amonianitis - use metanium to dry it out and help it heal - this rash is usually caused by cirtus fruit or other very acidic food. May take 2 or 3 days to clear up Do not use any chemicals on skin even oils in her wipe solution as it can sting.

Great Daisy - glad you got them - let me know what you think.

mumface · 11/11/2009 16:37

Oh dear Jenny,poor Eloise.
I am not impressed with Ellas house hemp nappies, have left sore leg marks. Tried putting it on looser last night and only light mark but leaked on pyjama waistband
Jenny u are a fan of UD Soy arn't you, I have a night nappy to try coming from Jabula Have high hopes.

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