I cannot encourage my dd1 to do her 10 mins reading or practice her times tables with me so I have decided to stop asking her to do it

[PoorOldEnid]

as I am absolutely sick of badgering her to read (the school asks that they read aloud for 10 mins every day). She hates it. And she fusses every time I remind her to practice her times tables. She is almost 9, in year 4

so I have given up and told her that I have given up, I have said if she wants me to listen or help I will, but from now on I am not going to remind her.

Is that sensible or crap and defeatist?

she sounds lots like my ds1 actually!

sounds like DS, almost nine in year four

no concept of time, days of weeks, months of year, lists of anything... struggles with memory issues.. reading and spelling levels totally at odds with verbal reasoning...

he is a classic dyslexic, diagnosed end of year 2 /beginning of year 3

school sorted it all out via SENCO

take your worries back to school and push for some more help

letters moving about was one of the things we only realised about my sister once she'd been diagnosed.

Ooh, I'm very excited that this thread has opened up at least one avenue to investigation. Don't know why I feel so strongly except that I love books but grew up with a mysterious non-reading book hater and it turned out there was a very good reason for it.

I can't remember it. It was quite a long way from you I think, it wasn't here. It was somewhere like Cheltenham?

If you go to Dyslexia Action or an Ed Psych they should be able to tell you of people more local to you.

However - I can get it for you off a mate. I'll email her if you want it.

Last thing, even if it is only mild, I tend to think these things better to know about. Just because, well, then you know.

there is a new head who seems a bit more switched on

although her form teacher said that she was convinced there was no dyslexia unelss it was a 'sort she didnt know about'

'of' investigation

Enid
My 6 year old dd is dyslexic - she has issues with sequencing, confsuion over abstract words (tomorrow / yesterday / right / left etc.), cannot remember stuff for long - so will probably have difficulty with learning tables later. She is bright but her literacy levels do not match. It would be worth getting your dd checked for dyslexia, I think.

lolol at 'mysterious non readin book hater'

I do spend time ANGUISHING and puzzling over how it could happen

Yeah, right, the form teacher is a specialist in dyslexia, is she? May the saints preserve us from people who think they are experts...

Exactly! That's just how it was with my sister - my parents could not understand it at all (me neither). She really resented the rest of us reading in front of her, too.

Mind you, I couldn't understand why she hated dolls, either, and then it turned out I'd given her a phobia by saying that they came alive at night. Oops.

it is not the teacher's call to make.. dyselexia is not just about words leaping all over the place

i could not get my head round DH being able to read, but being dyslexic..

this is for the SENCO to decide, there are a number of screening tests that can be done, to ascertain how at risk your child is of being dyslexic..

so do I ask the school directly

or (preferable) make a private appt

the last link I gave had suggestions about how to go about it. (Am saying this nicely in a 'perhaps this would help' way, not an irritated way. Honest!)

If you'd rather do it privately, then do that. They will give the school a form to fill in.

You'll get a thorough report, and it might say Yes Dyslexic, or it might say 'a scatter of scores suggestive of a Specific Learning Difficulty'. It might just be that one side of her brain works much better than the other.

Involve the school though, I would. Ask to see SENCO, ask if she can recommend someone etc.

sorry edam

will call some people this afternoon and keep you posted

what a tremendous relief but how guilty would I feel if she IS dyslexic

POE I sympathise. I am struggling with my 6 YO DS as present. He has been hard work to sit down and read/do homework with since he started school. Always fidgeting, talking about something else and messing around. Since he's gone back in yr 2 he says "I'm not doing it" or "I can't be bothered" or "I'm too tired". We have to fall out about this every day and I am now thinking why do I bother. I'm going to see his teacher tomorrow to see if he can have a word with him, hopefully put the frightners oh him

no no no no no, I didn't mean to make you feel bad!

Do NOT feel guilty. Hard not to, I suspect, but how the hell were you to know? Especially as the teacher had said categorically not, silly woman. And you don't know it is, yet, anyway.

And it might not be.

But everything suggests that something isn't clicking as it might, and I think your dd is a canny, clever old soul and she's hiding it and appearing lazy, whereas in fact she probably knows she can't quite do it yet.

You might as well get the low down.

you have described her to a t 100

she loves me and wants to please me pretty much all of the time

she seems to be desperately casting around for excuses and then getting really upset

I was going to say that if she can read well I wouldn't bother about listening to her read at this age but it sounds like she does need some extra help...

Getting her checked for dyslexia privately is quite expensive but if you can afford it maybe it is worth checking out - it does seem like she is avoiding the reading because she finds it difficult. However, from what I have heard, the people who specialise in assessing for dyslexia and other learning difficulties tend to nearly always diagnose it, iyswim. I'm not saying they are unscrupulous or anything but I think it is one of these things where virtually everyone would have some things they find difficult to learn/are less good at and it is a question of does it need a label and will it actually help to put a name to it...

yes but even if it was a bit of a meh diagnosis it might mean Enid could give the school a bit more of a push

I think though that most schools can only help those most in need so they may feel that Enid's dd is not needy enough - she may need to be prepared to go for private tutoring in that case (which is what people I know have done in similar circumstances)

And it might also mean that Enid understands what's going on better. And that IS good and important.

In a way the label isn't important - except for talking to the school. The breakdown of what she is good at, and where she struggles can be helpful. It's just information. Never a bad thing to have about one ime.