Woman has just punched my son

[Hollowhead]

My son came in with tears in his eyes a few minutes ago and a red mark on his face. Turns out he had a run in with a neighbours son (same age, 10) and threatened to punch him next time he saw him going to shop on his own the kid then went running in to his mum and told her what DS had said and she came out giving DS loads and saying he was the kind of kid that would end up in prison by the time he was 18 and she also said he and his friends were the reason another neighbour moved recently.

DS then retaliated and called her a fat ugly cow and said he was going to set their cat on fire she told him she was coming around to tell me what he'd said and would be reporting him to the police and ds said "go on then, I'll put your fucking windows through" so she said to him "come here and shout your mouth off, you think you're so big and clever" and so DS did and she grabbed hold of him and smacked him across the face (he said she punched him, she admits she slapped him, not punched). DS then tried to kick her and her husband came out and starting saying to his wife "keep him there, I'll knock his cocky fucking head off" and she then pushed DS over full force so he actually fell into the road and told him to "fuck off".

Obviously I went around to see what the hell has been happening and she said she pushed him away because if her husband had got a hold of him he would've killed him!

I KNOW ds is not innocent in this but to actually punch someone elses kid? Would I be over-reacting to report this to the police?

chopski chop lil troll,take your potty mouthed cat threatening ds too(oh so hard Miaow)

You think that his behaviour is normal?? It's just what they do? Who the heck is the they that you know? Love, you need to move areas if that is the norm where you live! Decent people do NOT behave like this. Decent people do NOT allow their children to behave like this. Your son is only 10. It is not yet too late. If you don't act, he is going to end up on street corners, drinking cider from a bottle, setting cars on fire and boasting about his ASBO. What is wrong with you, your life and your environment that you cannot see that your son is in danger of becoming irrecoverable.

Thugs don't come out of pods aged 18, go down town, get pissed and knife someone. They are born, grow up and become this by not being corrected when they behave in ways like you describe. And then we ALL bloody frigging well suffer for it.

Good post hecate.

{shock] if my 10 year old spoke like that to anyone I would go crazy and I live in a rough area too.

I actually think you are a troll

oh, and by the way - DECENT, moral, good kids do not threaten to put windows through (even if they 'don't mean it'). Thugs, hooligans and little shits threaten to put windows through.

Just so we're clear on that.

HollowHead - are you still trying to persuade your DH not to call the baby Stockard?

Unfortunately some mums are laid back about their kids' shitty behaviour. Where my parents used to live, there were two families with kids who were aggressive, foul mouthed thugs. Most of these kids had been in trouble with the police. ANd the parents did nothing. ANy other parents complained about the kids, the parents got aggressive and threatening. It was just awful. SO I wouldn't dismiss this as a troll purely on the grounds that no mum would be that laid back about that kind of behaviour unfortunately.

on the minuscule chance this trolling effort is real

you need family therapy
re:anger management and boundary setting
poor role model setting and inappropriate behaviours

children model behaviour based upon that which is observed,so if daddy rip fecking heads off, son thinks that is ok too. he rip fecking heads off. threaten cats etc

some parenting classes to learn strategies and skills

address the already poor behavioural and verbal pattern already emerging in your ds

examine your locus of control eg why is it always someone else fault not yours

as others ave said dysfunctional angry young men dont just appear in the park drinking cider, they are shaped, they grow up

if yoy really want your boy to stay off what seems to be am inevutable path of criminal justice and bad behaviour

take some action

gp for family therapy
liaise with school psychologist
sure start team
support agencies

Your DS seems like a prize specimen. Asbo in waiting.

umm...

actually she has posted before. more than once. don't think she's a troll so i think whatever people's personal opinions on the situation she may actually benefit from some advice.

(not from me tho, i have no idea where to start. think the situation is sad and bleak and it really sounds like the son needs help/positive direction/rolemodel )

Some of her threads are a little inconsistent though....

I'm sorry you have got to the position where verbal and physical abuse between neighbours seems commonplace. Going to the police will only make things escalate. If there is going to be any improvement here and your son is not going to go down a rather sad route towards total delinquency, you and your partner need to take a hard look at yourselves and at how much aggression and even violence your boy is witnessing. TV?
Computer games? Domestic violence?

Find out, fast, about parenting courses in your area and get yourself on one.

i'm now questioning myself...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1375&threadid=587770#11991977

youand your family sound lovely hmm i think you need to worry more about your son and his behaviour. No its not right that she hit your son, but OMG he threatened to put her windows in, threatened her son and said he would se her cat on fire and his only 10!!

To say that all the other DCs in the area act the same is not justification for his behaviour and doesn't make it OK. Saying that you'll be the rough family again just makes you sound resigned to the fact and your DH doesn't sound like a very positive example to set any child.

If he had acted to me like that I would have called the police. Sorry but there is no sympathy here I'm afraid.

The slap was totally deserved. Your child needs taking in hand by you and his father.

I would have twatted him around the head too

It has to be a troll!!

mmm nice

and nice posts from the likes of lilymolly

Oh for gods sake tutter it was a joke and ref to a thread started last weeks about the word "twat"

-The woman is cleary either troll or her son did deserve to be smacked across the face

No blame culture. You are the epitome. Your son is a horror and will probably grow into the type of despicable adult who threatens and punches kids. You'll blame that on someone else though won't ya?

oh yes so sorry it was very very funny

If I were the police I would laugh in your face if you reported that someone slapped this little hooligan.

Your neighbour had an excellent point. It sounds like he is on an express track to prison.

what is the matter with you?
no need to come on here and flame me for making a tongue in cheek comment.
Absolutley no need- was simply a joke and a justified response to a ridiculous troll op.