You can always tell some women are childless by the fact that they....

[NinaInCognito]

...get in the way of you when you are in the supermarket dragging around a pram, trolley and fiddly child and then they sneer down at you with their basket full of organic lettuce, baguettes and mini-tampons while your trolley is loaded with nappies, a giant pot of Sudocrem and enough chocolate bars to re-sink the Titanic.

You then have to manoever around them while they continue said sneering.

God you can tell what sort of evening I have had, can't you? And I am embarrassed to admit that I used to be one of those women. I apologise to all you mums out there unreservedly.

Now for chocolate bars and MN......

oh. my. god.

it's like i'm in fifth form all over again.

you're right of course, lilymolly, you have outwitted me entirely, hah, see how easily i fall into your trap, when you didn't name anyone specifically but your post was part of a group of rather nasty ones aimed at me.

who were you referring to, as it happens?

I didnt name anyone specifically as I thought there where a few people on this thread being a bit silly about it all really.

I would never go around pointing the finger at anyone.

There are quite a few posters who took the OP the wrong way imho anyway

well, that's why it's called an opinion. because different people construe different things differently.

for example, i find Damien Hirst a shite artist. others find him brilliant.

i doubt he really gives a fat rat's arse.

'the wrong way'? or they just disagreed? isn't that okay any more on MN?

Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion

It just seemed to me to be a light hearted OP and you and others turned it around unnecessarily

Is a bit of humour, tongue in cheek not allowed any more either?

I just think sometimes on MN and (I dont mean you in particular) people interprete things the wrong way and jump on the OP.

Thats the point I am trying to make.

to me it's when they swim breaststroke and their head stays calmly looking forwards and not looking anxiously from side to side in a kind of 'where are the kids and are they drowning' action

'unnecessarily'? but that cuts both ways, surely?

look, for the zillionth time i Just Didn't Agree with the OP. i don't get women with lettuce sneering at me. i never was a woman with lettuce who sneered at other women. it should have been fair enough for me to express that, i think. just because the OP sneered at others when single doesn't mean that every single woman is like her.

the OP retorted with a wholly victimish response, which was imo completely unnecessary and uncalled-for, as were her later responses, calling me out specifically. her OP wasn't funny imo, it was weird and paranoid and, ironically enough, sneery imo, and the language of her subject line was insensitively loaded. no doubt she wanted it to be light-hearted, but what she actually wrote was just a bit horrid.

there would, however, have been no issue whatsoever had the OP not managed to blame me alone for ruining her entire MN experience for the evening in her next post. she could have ignored me... she didn't. and then of course she flounced, because blah blah blah newbs vs olds blah blah blah boring.

gemzooks, that's a brilliant and much needed change of course thank you

I just found the OP completely unfunny and said so.

i think you unwittingly needed to say so first to really get the crowd on your side, expat...

tigermoth, don't get too excited, the subject has been changed about fifteen times on here but there's always someone who hasn't actually read the thread willing to come on and have a pop. it's great fun.

bump aitch???

bump???

you know this, tutter... btw i answered your other thread. how are you keeping?

no

i

did

not

NOT

(did i????)

am ok, thanks

want to talk about this now though

what would you like to know, tutter?

Well I have just read the whooooole thread, feeling a little spacey actually, screen time over load.

What a horrible horrible feeling this thread has. It is hugely glaringly obvious what the OP's intent was ie hey ho life as a mum, my organic lettuce days are over etc. It is also glaringly obvious that to open the thread read the OP and pile in with essentially a pursed lip and an affronted huff about alledged sneering activties of the childless was an odd reaction. I read it and thought 'who pulled your wire?'.

Then the thread descends into near farce. I obviously dont know you aitch and you may well be quite lovely, but I can completely understand how the OP felt with your response and then to hide behind some imagined offense about implied sneeriness or otherwise of your child free former self is really not on. A 'sorry just wasnt feeling lighthearted myself' would have done. I am bothering to post as I keep opening these bun fights and getting an unpleasant sense of playground ganging up where people are really deeply upleasantly rude, take huge umbrage at immaginary slights and the whole thread becomes people who know each other ganging up. I dont think 'its an open forum live with it' excuses nastiness bred from the anonimity of the medium.

oh ffs i've explained so many times, it's so BORING. it was according to the OP herself her sneering days that were over, and i just didn't have those days nor remembered meeting the sneerers... am i not allowed to say that in your brave new cuddly Bounty MN world?

i was not hiding behind some imagined offence, as i have repeatedly stated, i Just Didn't Share Her Viewpoint, do you understand?

and am i fuck a lovely person, i've no interest in being lovely to people who come onto a thread days after it's died, absolutely determined to rake it all up again in order to what, bask in some teacherish limelight, telling us where we've all gone wrong? thanks for the suggestion as to what i might have said, but i didn't, i said what i thought, and so did the OP and i presume we both stand by it.

the vast majority of the thread was loling along at the wildean wit of the OP, she was the one who had a go at me when she didn't need to, so i'd say to you who pulled your wire, exactly? there was a pile-in ON ME, fgs, and i can cope with it, so just get over it everyone else, 'kay? it is an open forum and i can live with that, and i suggest you do to.

trying to teach a dog to read is a pointless endeavour.

Cathpot

Your post above explains exactly how I took it, but you put it across in a much better way.

Aitch I did not realise the thread had died, it came into active convos tonight, so I cert did not resurrect it out of any malice.
You do sound like you have a huge chip on your shoulder and a little self centred dare I say.

The only reason their is a "pile on" to you is because you assumed that I was talking about you- I wasn't; there where a number of different posts from different people, and yet you keep coming on and giving your side of it all. Smacks of someone who thinks the mn is all about them. Its not.

I have been on here quite a lot recently following a period of illness and boredom and have been amazed at some of the more regular posters thinking that they can come along and tbh shit on someone elses thread.
I Can't really put across in words how I feel tbh.

I think that if this OP was started by a regular, then it would have been a lovely jog down memory lane thread about how our lives where so different before we became mums.
Really not going to drag this on anymore, but I have been disapointed in mn recently and perhpas this thread has been the straw that broke the camels back

Yes it is expat.
They're very stoopid.

When I left this thread we were just after insulting the English and discussing communists and seeing which mner was the biggest eejit in the misheard lyrics department.

Where did it all go wrong?

oh fgs. 'dare i say it?' yes, it would appear you do dare.

have Passive-Aggressives Anonymous started giving out MN's web address or what? do what you've got to do, ladies, but stop blaming everyone else for your experience of MN.

oh, am Aitch. yep, fabio, there's no escaping the long arm of the new Bounty MN lawgivers, you can talk as much shite as you like to change the subject but some fucker will just come along and denounce you for being part of an in-crowd etc. [high school musical]

Okaaay. I am saying that it read as impolite at the very least, and if you didnt mean to be rude and put her back in her box then you should have been more careful how you worded it, or left her alone.

I am saying that because of how it read, you understandably got her back up and if thats not the effect you were after why didnt you apologise, re-word it or leave.

I am saying that as you no doubt are a standard issue sane lovely person with far better thing to do than fall out with strangers, that I would lay money on the fact you wouldnt have reacted to her opening gambit like that if she had been sitting in your lounge. Telling people trying to be lighthearted they arent funny and cutting them dead makes for very uncomfortable social situations and makes the person involved feel horrible.

Expat, I have no idea what you are saying.

'Expat, I have no idea what you are saying. '

My point exactly.

Fabio, Pepsi the Council Estate cat left me a bi-sected mouse on the back doorstep this morning.

I'd rather she left money.

Or at least a gold nugget or summat.

okay, you have to stop this now.

you don't know me AT ALL if you think that i would refrain from saying something so monumentally anodyne as "i never was, nor do i remember meeting them... " in response to an unamusing paranoid and linguistically loaded whinge such as the OP's.

truly, get over it because in fact, i would most likely have said something more scathing had she been sitting in front of me. and if that means you and me will never be bessie mates, cathpot, i think i can live with that.

How long have you known Aitch, Cathpot?
Personally, like?

expat, Pepsi has started preparing the mouse.
All you have to do now is fillet, lightly suaute in garlic butter, peel off the flesh and whip it up into a mouse mousse, reserving the offal for a risotto and the bones for a stew.

Honestly. You humans can't take the most obvious hint.
Jeebs.