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Nearly six-year-old struggling with meltdowns and hearing no, any advice?

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andy2026 · 01/08/2026 22:28

Hi all, name changed. Any advice appreciated.
Dear wife and I have two kids , daughter aged 10 and our son who’s almost 6.
We are struggling with our son’s behaviour, it’s really draining and making us feel a bit run down.
I honestly thought that challenging behaviour would have passed by almost 6 but I am worried he’s getting worse with age.

Hell be fine and be minute then will have a meltdown the next. It’s mainly when he wants something and we say no. A supermarket is a classic example. He say can he have one toy, we will say no and that’s it - he’ll have a tantrum. We went shopping as a family of four last week. As soon as we got in Tesco he asked for a toy- when we said no he kicked off. I actually took him out the shop and left DW and DD there until they had finished.

Another classic one we often have is when he plays with our next door neighbour who’s a similar age. The little boy next door will knock for our son , or our son will knock for him. They’ll play in each other’s gardens but it’s always us that’s ends the play time. The neighbours parents generally let their boy play without a time limit. But we know our son has a limit, and gets over tired. But it’s usually us that calls time on playtime so we look like the bad guys.

As kids do , they sometimes fall out and we get the usual he did this or he did that.

DS will say things like he hates us, we’re the worse , I’m not talking to you. It makes us feel so sad.

He isn’t always like this - he can be loving and nice to be around . His behaviour at school is fine and no problems there , atleast from what we’ve been told. His reports says his behaviour is fine.

But it’s the meltdowns, the tantrums , that’s really draining. Can the demanding things be a compulsive disorder or form of ADHD?

Our daughter had her moments when she was a toddler but was an angel compared to him. I don’t remember her kicking off about anything past the age of four.

I know there’s the counting 123 method but that only really works if we’re home. Can’t really be done in supermarkets or out in public.

He basically hates the word no.I will also add that my wife’s dad died recently and she hasn’t really grieved yet. The loss of her dad on top of our son’s behaviour is a lot for her. I’m trying to be supportive but it’s tough. I’m working full time and trying to do what I can.

DW is seeing a doctor soon about trying to get some counselling but in the mean time does anyone have any advice?

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24Dogcuddler · 01/08/2026 23:03

Sorry for your loss. It’s unlikely that he’s ND if he’s behaviour is absolutely fine at school. Children can mask all day then become dysregulated or display challenging behaviour once home. You’d still expect school staff to have commented on some behaviour or differences.

Has his behaviour worsened in the school holidays? Does he need a routine maybe?
You can pick your battles and use planned ignoring for some behaviour. He might stop if he’s not getting the attention.

Think about environments for example if you know he’s difficult to manage in the supermarket don’t take him. Either one of you shop or shop online.
If you have to shop have a list and involve him. Make clear no toy today but involve him in snack choices.

He needs to learn about emotional regulation ( look at 5 Point Scale resources) If he can start to recognise when he’s getting angry and learn some strategies for calming including walking away, counting to 10 in his head or deep breathing.

Give clear rules and boundaries and reward positive behaviour. Warn when things are about to end and use a timer or watch if he can tell the time.
Think about the language you use. Reduced language is needed when he’s having a meltdown.
To give him some control offer choices do you want to do x first or y? Set challenges and make tasks fun e.g. I bet I can put more toys in the box before you in 1 minute.

To unpick behaviour use STAR analysis Setting Trigger Action Result to see if there’s a pattern or if you are inadvertently rewarding negative behaviour.

You could get some library books to share to help with coping with Grandad dying and emotions.

delightful1 · 01/08/2026 23:05

Have a look at PDA autism profile. Sounds very similar

Floppyearedlab · 01/08/2026 23:07

Do not slap a label on him. There is lost likely nothing wrong with him.

For the play dates, give plenty of warning that time is almost up. So you have 10 mins, let’s start putting the toys away. Transition into goodbye, not drag him away when they are in the middle of a game.
Get him helping with shopping. Give him the list and get him to find things. Don’t rush. Make it clear that there will be no tots or extras but he can write things on his Christmas list.

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andy2026 · 01/08/2026 23:26

Thanks some good points made there

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BertieBotts · 02/08/2026 12:08

Hi OP, parent of ADHD kids here, just some thoughts:

In the supermarket when he's melting down there - do you ever give in to this and buy the toy? Do you notice any pattern e.g. is it likely to occur more in certain shops, at particular times of day, when the supermarket trip is before/after another outing, a mealtime, etc?

The neighbours parents generally let their boy play without a time limit. But we know our son has a limit, and gets over tired. But it’s usually us that calls time on playtime so we look like the bad guys.

Are you worried about looking like the bad guys to your son or to the neighbours? I would not worry what the neighbours think, or if you really worry they think you are uptight, explain to them at a separate time adult to adult that you're trying to help your son with some challenging behaviour. It's also normal IME for different children to have different needs. Probably the neighbours don't need to set a time limit on their son's play. But I would try to set your son up for success. At some point before the next playdate, talk to your son about how you've noticed it's often hard for him to stop playing with the neighbour. Let him know that next time they play together, if he can come home nicely when it's time, there will be a small reward for him - some nice food, TV time, an offer for a parent to do a favourite activity with him, whatever it is. Tell him you will give him a 5 minute warning before it's time to come home, but then you expect him to come home nicely when the time is up. If you want to, present it as a "challenge" with a prize - most children can't resist a challenge.

When the neighbour comes to call or your son goes over to call for him, remind him that he can play for X time, or until Y time (it is useful if he can tell time - this might be something to work on. You can also explain how the time looks on a clock.) When it gets to 5 mins before, let him know and remind him of the deal for leaving nicely. Try to be accurate with the 5 min warning - it's not helpful if you say this and then proceed to chat with the neighbour for 15 mins. Then when it comes to time to leave, if he leaves nicely or there is a significant improvement from normal, give the reward and praise him, because it was likely a significant effort that he made and that should be recognised. If he does not, IME he will ask for the reward and you'll have to say "Sorry mate, that's only if you leave calmly. We can try again next time." He will likely kick off and claim it's not fair etc. Just ignore this/keep everyone safe - don't escalate consequences.

Repeat this a few times and if it works 5+ times in a row, start to fade out the reward but keep the praise for longer. If he objects to the prize going away, see if you can come up with a different challenge for him to work on.

DS will say things like he hates us, we’re the worse , I’m not talking to you. It makes us feel so sad.

Try not to take this personally. 6 is still young in terms of emotional intelligence. TBH even teenagers will say things like this - if you can basically "translate" this in your head to mean "I'm really angry with you right now!! I feel like this is incredibly unfair!! I do not like experiencing the consequences of my actions!!" it can help. It's OK to be the bad guy at times. Unfortunately that's part of the gig. But just the same as children this age will say things like "I am the fastest runner in the world!" they are just exaggerating and extrapolating something temporary to a permanent state because it's a way to express that their feeling is strong. It doesn't mean that they genuinely do hate you, it's just part of how they use language at this age.

Children only tell you that they hate you, they don't want you etc when they feel secure in your love. If he didn't feel secure in his love for you, he wouldn't say it.

I know there’s the counting 123 method but that only really works if we’re home. Can’t really be done in supermarkets or out in public.

You can absolutely do this in public. Only my youngest child really responds to time out but you can just pick any random step, chair or quiet place, or take them back to the car (if the car isn't an oven obviously) or outside the place that you are in. If this works at home, I would use it in public.

Can the demanding things be a compulsive disorder or form of ADHD?

Demanding things is VERY common childhood behaviour, particularly if it sometimes works. Children with ADHD tend to do it more and for longer, because it takes them longer to generalise the rule of not being allowed things, because their emotional regulation can be weaker so they get overexcited quickly and can't easily bring that back down, and perhaps because of sensory overload or less awareness of things like hunger/temperature/tiredness/toilet cues so they may be uncomfortable in these ways and not necessarily realise it but it comes out in their behaviour. But certainly I would not immediately jump to ADHD just on the basis of tantrums in supermarkets. It's much more of an all-round thing so you'd be noticing difficulties, intensity, immaturity etc in almost every area of life.

Like with the leaving the playdate example, IME children do best when you can be proactive e.g. setting the expectation out clearly in advance and reminding them of it shortly before they will be placed in the situation which is difficult for them, so try to use this in any situation which is predictably tricky. For the supermarket one that might look like letting him know before you go in if this is a time he can choose something or if this is a time he cannot buy anything. Having his own pocket money might help, and can also start to teach him about budgeting and spending vs saving. Giving him a specific job to involve him in the trip as a PP suggested can also help.

If he does have ADHD then all of the above will help, because for children with ADHD it's really important to be proactive in reminding about expectations, being positive when they do meet expectations, setting them up for success and always being clear about times. But if he doesn't have ADHD then these are all good things to do anyway, and they might get you to a point where you feel he is more aligned with other children his age.

andy2026 · 03/08/2026 17:45

Thanks so much. Will this pass with age or could this be the way he is ?.. DW saw a doctor today regarding her mental health. Mainly with the loss of her dad but our struggles with our son certainly is an extra factor..

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andy2026 · 03/08/2026 18:11

I’m also aware that we have our daughter to think about too

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BertieBotts · 03/08/2026 18:23

I don't think it will just go away on its own, I think you will need to actively put effort into changing the behaviour patterns and supporting the development of the behaviour you want. Apparently even from an early age girls are more likely to pick up on social cues and modify behaviour accordingly, so it might be that you didn't need to be quite so proactive with your daughter because she more easily picked up on what you expected. It can also be personality dependent of course.

No harm in talking to the GP if you're worried about him but I do think standard positive parenting techniques as described above will probably help a lot. If you have the 123 Magic book, then have a flip through it as I find re-reading things I've found useful before often remind me of something I'd forgotten or wasn't relevant the first time around.

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