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My wife despises me

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GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:08

My wife and I have been married for 3 years and we have been together for 7 years. We are on child #2. He is almost 5 months old.

I work from home. She does not work. She cannot sleep with the baby, so we have an asymmetric sleep schedule. I am responsible for the baby from 8pm or 9pm to 4am or 5am. She wakes up at that time and we trade off. I wake up sometime between 8am and noon, usually when our first child wakes me up.

I wrote about my first child in my only other thread here. She is now 2 going on 3, and is still an incredibly difficult, incredibly independent little girl who does not express any form of affection and is delayed in all forms of social communication. I am convinced she has autism but I am not allowed to say this because my wife becomes upset. She can speak, and will speak, but does not pay attention to anything when directed to pay attention to it, does not address either of us by mama or papa, and only talks about things she is interested in. For instance, she can say "triceratops" and "stegosaurus" perfectly, but I have never heard her say "mama" except once as an infant.

On a typical day we have 1 or 2 hours together. Most days we do not have this time together because she is angry at me. She is angry and depressed almost all the time.

Today, I took the entire day off. It's a holiday in the US. Promptly after waking up at noon, we went into town and did stuff until we got home at 6pm. After 6pm, I took our daughter to the river and I occupied her for 2 hours. When I got back, it was time to put the baby down. The baby was difficult and did not go to sleep easily.

During the 8pm~9pm window where we usually put the baby down, I make a coffee, because I am up for another 8 hours. I offered to hold the baby while making coffee because my wife has been complaining about foot and back pain constantly recently. While making coffee, the baby became irate. She took the baby from me because she will not allow the baby to cry under any circumstance without her holding it. She then also turned off the light. This caused me to spill boiling water and coffee grinds everywhere because I couldn't tell my coffee maker was closed. She turns off the lights whenever possible, even when I'm doing stuff, because it bothers her to see dirt on the floor.

I got irritated but said nothing, I was just visibly annoyed. Once she had the baby again, she fed him and changed him. I thought she had already fed and changed him before giving him to me because she had him for 2 hours before I got home. She made no mention that he needed to bed or changed before giving him to me, and I explicitly said I would be carrying him while making coffee while holding him.

After that I had nothing to do and she did not communicate to me to ask I do anything. So, i took my coffee and went to check on my work. As I mentioned, I work from home. My productivity has been suffering because because I am staying up until 4am instead of working at normal times, and I am having to help more with the two kids. It is frustrating because if I lose this job I know I will have to work a normal 9-5 and I have no reason to believe my wife can handle the children by herself.

While on my computer, she walked the baby in circles, because she doesn't believe the baby can put himself to sleep and will not allow him to fall asleep on his own. She was doing a very noticeable hobbled gimped walk while walking with him when I went out to the bathroom. I offered to take him. She said no.

When the baby was finally laid down, she went to the bathroom and was audibly sobbing. She sent me nasty text messages about how I don't do enough, how I don't try, I do the bare minimum as a form of malicious compliance, and I have the easy job of staying up to 4am because he just sleeps when he's with me. I told her she did not communicate anything to me at any point in time.

I am extremely unhappy. I regret my choices in life. I feel like if I had married someone younger (we were 30 when we had our first) she would be able to keep up with the children. I wanted 4 children but she seems completely overwhelmed with 2 and doesn't seem physically capable of dealing with 2.

She has been making it more clear to me over time that she is not interested in more children (despite 4 being clearly communicated before we got married) and has also been hinted that if we ever got divorced she would deliberately try to make my life as difficult as possible. For instance, today on the way home, we were discussing the license plates on my truck. They are expired and I need to decide in which state I want to tag them. For various reasons, I would only tag them locally (thus avoiding a 12 hour drive to a different state) if I put the vehicle in a company we each own a half of. I joked "the problem with that is then you'd own half my truck" (a joke, feigning over-protectiveness of the truck [she can't even drive, she's from a european major city and has relied on public transit her entire life]); she immediately snapped and used very specific legal language about how I bought it after we were married, so under common law she already owns half of it. It felt very threatening and I did not appreciate it.

Last time I vented everyone told me I was shit and I'm expecting to hear that again. I just want to vent. I don't like talking about my problems to people I know. I just really don't like waking up in each morning noon.

OP posts:
Arseynal · 27/05/2025 10:44

Your posts describe your wife as being absolutely crazy but you are dismissing it as her being German and claiming you are “not allowed” to do basic normal things. You are whipping up the madness. You are “allowed” but you don’t want solutions, you want a big old moan.
You don’t want your wife to see a doctor about her msk problems or her mental health but you don’t want her to have them or mention them if she does have them. You don’t want your dd to have an assessment for autism because you are “not allowed”. You don’t want to go to ikea or look on freecycle for a small crib that would fit in your spare room so your baby isn’t sleeping on a desk but not do you want to stay up all night or put the baby in the large crib in your room. You have to do one of those things - crib in your room, new small crib, stay up all night because you are putting your baby on a desk - which one are you “allowed” to do? You have to do one of these things - have a sick wife with no medical support or get her to the doctors - which one? You can’t choose neither. You have to do one of these things - get your dd into the “system” for an autism assessment or ignore your dds needs - pick one. Don’t give your baby honey - that’s not a choice. You are seeing your problems as things which are being done to you, not choices over which you have control. You are on one hand claiming your wife is an absolute loony who can’t be trusted and in the other pretending that she gets to make all the choices over your life. Which is it?

SerafinasGoose · 27/05/2025 10:48

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:58

A very valid point there too.

If he came on here and said how genuinely worried he is about her behaviour and didn't criticise her nationality, age etc I would of felt sorry for him too. But his lack of empathy screams through his post.
She may not want him to sleep as she's probably scared she doesn't sound well at all and it's obvious she needs help so why is he stopping that.

He has to take accountability too here that's his child he needs to protect not visualise having more children I find that really strange.

Agreed. As an aside, I've lived in the states and been very happy there. I once considered staying permanently.

As events have transpired, I shudder to think of it and am so glad and relieved that I didn't. Poor, poor women of the US. In some states/scenarios they have fewer rights even than children.

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 11:16

SerafinasGoose · 27/05/2025 10:48

Agreed. As an aside, I've lived in the states and been very happy there. I once considered staying permanently.

As events have transpired, I shudder to think of it and am so glad and relieved that I didn't. Poor, poor women of the US. In some states/scenarios they have fewer rights even than children.

When i went to America with my parents for a holiday my dad wanted us to move there. I'm glad we didn't.

As much as I get annoyed by our government it's definitely better the devil you know.

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Dashel · 27/05/2025 11:42

Your family isn’t coping with two children so adding two more is quite frankly insane- even if your wife wanted more. This idea needs to be dropped and you as a family need to work on getting into a better place.

Can you get a night nurse to help get you and the baby into a routine? You are not leading a healthy life, the anxiety and lack of sleep and the sleeping arrangements in general sound quite crazy and you both need outside help and a good dose of normality.

Babies do not sleep on desks. Get a crib or a proper bed for everyone and get everyone into a proper sleep routine. You sound like you are at risk of loosing your job and you need to stop that happening. Get external help from every possible source please.

Paperumbrella · 27/05/2025 12:47

Maddest thread on Mumsnet 🏆

From staying awake until 4 am watching the baby sleep, to baby sleeping in a dog bed, to the Master Potter mother in law.

All solid gold 🤩

RoseAndGeranium · 27/05/2025 13:09

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:38

There's absolutely nothing a doctor can do for her. What are they going to do? Slam her on SSRIs?

A doctor will hopefully help her to see that some of her behaviour is irrational and related to mental illness. This is really important, because it is hurting her, and you, and may hurt the children as time goes by. You must be exhausted and I’m not surprised you feel angry and unloving towards her at this stage. You are living with someone who cannot give much affection or attention to you, cannot appreciate what you are doing to help, and cannot properly care for your children, because she is unwell. You, in turn, cannot help her to see that her behaviour is harmful or feel any real empathy or affection for her because you are understandably worn out and resentful. The product is that you are falling into ways of thinking that are unfair to her too. None of this is because she’s over 30. I had my first child at 36 and my second at 39. I did all the nights for both of them because my husband needed to sleep for work. She’s not too old. She’s mentally ill. You can’t go on like this, and I think you know it

Lucythesquirrel · 27/05/2025 13:26

I’m sorry you are going through this, this sounds awful and no way to live.

Have you actually sat down and had a conversation with your wife, said all of this to her and how trapped you feel? The fact that she won’t allow you to sleep because she needs you to make sure the baby is still breathing makes me think there is something deeper going on here - I know you’ve said she isn’t depressed but that doesn’t sound normal. Yes she might be an anxious person but that is more than anxiety. Also, please don’t take this disrespectfully but are you being a little controlled, you’re ’not allowed to sleep’? Absolutely none of this is to do with age, plenty of people these days have their kids after 30 and sorry but also, this idea of four children before you even had your second was quite frankly, mad.

Both parties seem incredibly worn out but unless you take advice, speak to your wife and come up with a plan the nothing is going to change and you will break!

Upinthetreetops · 27/05/2025 13:29

She has severe postnatal depression and needs an intervention. Please step up. All of the behaviours you've described are clearly not normal: walking in circles, turning all the lights off, making sure baby is watched every minute of the day to see if he's breathing...
She must be at breaking point.
Why haven't you gotten her help already?

courageiscontagious · 27/05/2025 13:39

Your wife sounds neurodiverse - rigidly holding onto rules, black and white thinking etc.

your daughter sounds neurodiverse as well, and it’s highly genetic.

Why are you so dismissive about taking her to a doctor and getting her on SSRIs? Why would that be so bad?

you can’t go on as you are.

ColinFuckingRobinson · 27/05/2025 13:52

courageiscontagious · 27/05/2025 13:39

Your wife sounds neurodiverse - rigidly holding onto rules, black and white thinking etc.

your daughter sounds neurodiverse as well, and it’s highly genetic.

Why are you so dismissive about taking her to a doctor and getting her on SSRIs? Why would that be so bad?

you can’t go on as you are.

Absolutely this.

I'm autistic and this extreme anxiety and rigidity in thinking was exactly how I responded to motherhood at first. I didn't get diagnosed for a further 10 years, so didn't understand it at the time.

OP, your wife needs help, and you're not being very compassionate. SSRI's have their uses, especially when treating anxiety, and counselling/therapy sounds like it's very much needed. Get a crib sorted for the baby. Earplugs - I also couldn't sleep with a snuffly baby in the same room without them. Get everyone sleeping in safe places and at normal times. That alone will help immensely.

thismummydrinksgin · 27/05/2025 16:23

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:15

I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

this isn’t healthy or normal, she needs to see a doctor.

Neededa · 27/05/2025 22:28

charcuterieboard · 27/05/2025 06:58

Are you sure you couldn’t persuade her to have two more kids? It’s hardly an unreasonable thing to want in the circumstances, and definitely a sign of good judgement on your part. And as you said, you did clearly communicate your expectations to her on that front pre-kids so I don’t see any reason at all here why she might have changed her mind.

Haven’t yet caught up on posts since yours and am hoping others have questioned you massively, but WTAF

courageiscontagious · 27/05/2025 22:30

Neededa · 27/05/2025 22:28

Haven’t yet caught up on posts since yours and am hoping others have questioned you massively, but WTAF

I’d say it’s sarcasm

Neededa · 27/05/2025 22:30

WombForTwo · 27/05/2025 09:46

If a woman posted on here to say her husband was not allowing her to sleep, despite her working, I suspect the responses would be different!

YAWN

Neededa · 27/05/2025 22:32

courageiscontagious · 27/05/2025 22:30

I’d say it’s sarcasm

Oops, let’s hope so

HuskyNew · 28/05/2025 07:49

MiloMinderbinder925 · 27/05/2025 03:29

This seems to be a frog in water scenario where you don't realise that your wife is very unwell.

She turns off the light randomly because she doesn't want to see dirt, has to have 24/7 vigilance over her baby in case he stops breathing, won't contemplate her daughter being assessed and won't allow her baby to sleep alone.

Your views on her not being capable of managing four children, given her instability is just as bonkers. It's pretty obvious there's something wrong and she needs to see a Dr.

This. She’s very mentally unwell.

Pipsquiggle · 28/05/2025 08:29

@GoldFive how are you doing? How is your wife and DC doing?
Are you going to come back?

justanothermanicmondayyyy · 28/05/2025 10:08

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:15

I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

Then she needs urgent psychiatric help. This is abusive in every form and you need to divorce her and probably take the children too.

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