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My wife despises me

118 replies

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:08

My wife and I have been married for 3 years and we have been together for 7 years. We are on child #2. He is almost 5 months old.

I work from home. She does not work. She cannot sleep with the baby, so we have an asymmetric sleep schedule. I am responsible for the baby from 8pm or 9pm to 4am or 5am. She wakes up at that time and we trade off. I wake up sometime between 8am and noon, usually when our first child wakes me up.

I wrote about my first child in my only other thread here. She is now 2 going on 3, and is still an incredibly difficult, incredibly independent little girl who does not express any form of affection and is delayed in all forms of social communication. I am convinced she has autism but I am not allowed to say this because my wife becomes upset. She can speak, and will speak, but does not pay attention to anything when directed to pay attention to it, does not address either of us by mama or papa, and only talks about things she is interested in. For instance, she can say "triceratops" and "stegosaurus" perfectly, but I have never heard her say "mama" except once as an infant.

On a typical day we have 1 or 2 hours together. Most days we do not have this time together because she is angry at me. She is angry and depressed almost all the time.

Today, I took the entire day off. It's a holiday in the US. Promptly after waking up at noon, we went into town and did stuff until we got home at 6pm. After 6pm, I took our daughter to the river and I occupied her for 2 hours. When I got back, it was time to put the baby down. The baby was difficult and did not go to sleep easily.

During the 8pm~9pm window where we usually put the baby down, I make a coffee, because I am up for another 8 hours. I offered to hold the baby while making coffee because my wife has been complaining about foot and back pain constantly recently. While making coffee, the baby became irate. She took the baby from me because she will not allow the baby to cry under any circumstance without her holding it. She then also turned off the light. This caused me to spill boiling water and coffee grinds everywhere because I couldn't tell my coffee maker was closed. She turns off the lights whenever possible, even when I'm doing stuff, because it bothers her to see dirt on the floor.

I got irritated but said nothing, I was just visibly annoyed. Once she had the baby again, she fed him and changed him. I thought she had already fed and changed him before giving him to me because she had him for 2 hours before I got home. She made no mention that he needed to bed or changed before giving him to me, and I explicitly said I would be carrying him while making coffee while holding him.

After that I had nothing to do and she did not communicate to me to ask I do anything. So, i took my coffee and went to check on my work. As I mentioned, I work from home. My productivity has been suffering because because I am staying up until 4am instead of working at normal times, and I am having to help more with the two kids. It is frustrating because if I lose this job I know I will have to work a normal 9-5 and I have no reason to believe my wife can handle the children by herself.

While on my computer, she walked the baby in circles, because she doesn't believe the baby can put himself to sleep and will not allow him to fall asleep on his own. She was doing a very noticeable hobbled gimped walk while walking with him when I went out to the bathroom. I offered to take him. She said no.

When the baby was finally laid down, she went to the bathroom and was audibly sobbing. She sent me nasty text messages about how I don't do enough, how I don't try, I do the bare minimum as a form of malicious compliance, and I have the easy job of staying up to 4am because he just sleeps when he's with me. I told her she did not communicate anything to me at any point in time.

I am extremely unhappy. I regret my choices in life. I feel like if I had married someone younger (we were 30 when we had our first) she would be able to keep up with the children. I wanted 4 children but she seems completely overwhelmed with 2 and doesn't seem physically capable of dealing with 2.

She has been making it more clear to me over time that she is not interested in more children (despite 4 being clearly communicated before we got married) and has also been hinted that if we ever got divorced she would deliberately try to make my life as difficult as possible. For instance, today on the way home, we were discussing the license plates on my truck. They are expired and I need to decide in which state I want to tag them. For various reasons, I would only tag them locally (thus avoiding a 12 hour drive to a different state) if I put the vehicle in a company we each own a half of. I joked "the problem with that is then you'd own half my truck" (a joke, feigning over-protectiveness of the truck [she can't even drive, she's from a european major city and has relied on public transit her entire life]); she immediately snapped and used very specific legal language about how I bought it after we were married, so under common law she already owns half of it. It felt very threatening and I did not appreciate it.

Last time I vented everyone told me I was shit and I'm expecting to hear that again. I just want to vent. I don't like talking about my problems to people I know. I just really don't like waking up in each morning noon.

OP posts:
Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:39

WombForTwo · 27/05/2025 09:35

OP is being abused. His wife is depriving him of sleep and treating him awfully.

Saying that she walks like a gimp and he should of married younger doesn't sound like abuse to me!!

Loubylie · 27/05/2025 09:40

If this is real, your family needs outside help urgently. The life you are living is not normal at all. All of you are at serious risk of harm. If there is no help where you are, your wife should take the children home to Germany so that she gets family support for the children and time to heal her own serious mental health issues in a health system she understands. If that is successful, you could join her there one day.

WombForTwo · 27/05/2025 09:40

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:39

Saying that she walks like a gimp and he should of married younger doesn't sound like abuse to me!!

She doesn’t allow him to sleep.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:44

WombForTwo · 27/05/2025 09:40

She doesn’t allow him to sleep.

She's struggling and needs help from the doctor which he's refusing so his lack of sleep is partly on him. Can't see how that's classed as abuse !

All hes done is put her down in his post he doesn't even seem to like his wife. He said he should of got with someone younger who can keep up. Again he doesn't sound nice himself in his post!

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2025 09:44

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:39

Saying that she walks like a gimp and he should of married younger doesn't sound like abuse to me!!

It says that he may well be abusing her too.

It's not a healthy relationship regardless.

Neither party respects or supports the other. The marriage is dead but the OP still thinks he's owed two more children. That says he thinks he owns his wife and she has some how reneged on their marital vows.

But instead of looking for a divorce lawyer he's come on MN to slag her off and ignore any advice given here anyway.

These threads are easy to spot. They always go the same way.

They are looking for people to fawn over the OP and go 'yes you are right, what a terrible woman' rather than for seeking help.

WombForTwo · 27/05/2025 09:46

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:44

She's struggling and needs help from the doctor which he's refusing so his lack of sleep is partly on him. Can't see how that's classed as abuse !

All hes done is put her down in his post he doesn't even seem to like his wife. He said he should of got with someone younger who can keep up. Again he doesn't sound nice himself in his post!

Edited

If a woman posted on here to say her husband was not allowing her to sleep, despite her working, I suspect the responses would be different!

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:46

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2025 09:44

It says that he may well be abusing her too.

It's not a healthy relationship regardless.

Neither party respects or supports the other. The marriage is dead but the OP still thinks he's owed two more children. That says he thinks he owns his wife and she has some how reneged on their marital vows.

But instead of looking for a divorce lawyer he's come on MN to slag her off and ignore any advice given here anyway.

These threads are easy to spot. They always go the same way.

They are looking for people to fawn over the OP and go 'yes you are right, what a terrible woman' rather than for seeking help.

Exactly youre spot on . I'm not saying her behaviour is right but it sounds like she's mentally unwell and needs help which he's denying and won't seek it. Instead he's putting her down on here and then I got a reply she's abusive etc from a previous poster. Unbelievable lol.

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:48

WombForTwo · 27/05/2025 09:46

If a woman posted on here to say her husband was not allowing her to sleep, despite her working, I suspect the responses would be different!

Not at all especially if the woman called her husband a gimp and that she should of got with a younger man. Have a day off I'm not sexist in the slightest.

CreationNat1on · 27/05/2025 09:51

OP said the wife studied law, lawyers are v analytical in nature, this can spiral in early parenthood and they can over analyse a baby /sleeping pattern.

I think you need to:
Reassess the sleeping arrangements, everyone needs to sleep in a bed for regular hours.

Can you get an au pair for the summer months? A German girl that could help.

You both sound like you are trying very hard.

I think it's worth discussing all of this with a doctor.

Would it help if your wife joined mumsnet, do that she had some online support?

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2025 09:53

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:46

Exactly youre spot on . I'm not saying her behaviour is right but it sounds like she's mentally unwell and needs help which he's denying and won't seek it. Instead he's putting her down on here and then I got a reply she's abusive etc from a previous poster. Unbelievable lol.

I would also point out the following.

This is an American and a wife who does not work. He objects to SRIIs.

As a woman who doesn't work, her access to healthcare is completely controlled by her husband. If he objects, she's screwed. She may not be covered by his health insurance at all either, it depends on his policy.

She is totally at the mercy of whether he thinks she's ill or whether he thinks he should do what he says.

Sassybooklover · 27/05/2025 09:55

You mention that your wife was an anxious person prior to having children, and her Mother is also an anxious person. Your wife may have a higher risk of developing Post-Natal Depression (PND), due to her already poor mental health. Women can suffer from PND at any point until the child is around 4 years old. Anxiety is a Mental Health issue, and it needs therapy and in some cases medication. It sounds as if the birth of both children has made her anxiety increase. It's not normal to expect someone to stay awake all night, so they can periodically check the baby is breathing. Her heighten state means she's not sleeping, can't switch 'off' and stressed. Your wife needs to see a Doctor ASAP. Her age at the time of having children is completely irrelevant, with regards to coping with two children. Her issues have zero to do with her age at the time she had the first child. As for having more children, no. Your wife is struggling with her MH now, having even more children would be a complete disaster. The fact she was struggling after the first child, should have been an indication that she needed help, not another child. None of this is her fault, it's circumstances, I doubt she wants to feel this way. Get her professional medical help, because that's what she needs. Do you have family who could give you both respite? Someone to take care of the children for a few hours so you both have a break? You need to work, and can't continue staying up all night, otherwise you're going to burn out and lose your job. So this situation can't continue indefinitely.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 27/05/2025 09:57

Dude, your wife needs help.
Also, why is the baby sleeping on a desk? This is mental.

Wednesdayisme · 27/05/2025 09:58

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2025 09:53

I would also point out the following.

This is an American and a wife who does not work. He objects to SRIIs.

As a woman who doesn't work, her access to healthcare is completely controlled by her husband. If he objects, she's screwed. She may not be covered by his health insurance at all either, it depends on his policy.

She is totally at the mercy of whether he thinks she's ill or whether he thinks he should do what he says.

A very valid point there too.

If he came on here and said how genuinely worried he is about her behaviour and didn't criticise her nationality, age etc I would of felt sorry for him too. But his lack of empathy screams through his post.
She may not want him to sleep as she's probably scared she doesn't sound well at all and it's obvious she needs help so why is he stopping that.

He has to take accountability too here that's his child he needs to protect not visualise having more children I find that really strange.

Aimtodobetter · 27/05/2025 09:59

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 04:25

It is simply that she is a very light sleeper and finds it difficult to sleep with the baby in the room. She insists that I stay awake with the baby because in my office, he sleeps on my computer desk in a small cushioned ring (kind of like a dog bed?) that is not "sleep safe", so I need to be there monitoring him throughout the night. We do have a crib but it's in our room and it's never used.

I think her plan is that when we move, we put the crib into the third bedroom that will also be my office, and the baby will sleep there overnight alone.

It's a really different setup than last baby. Last baby she slept in a bed directly next to the crib, however the crib was really uncomfortable and the baby never slept in it, so they just slept together most of the time. However, this time, after only a few days, she insisted that some other sleeping arrangement be made because she couldn't do it anymore.

Edited

As you explain some of the things you believe to be unreasonable quite a few of them seem (a) more reasonable than you originally presented and (b) easily solvable. Guidelines are clear that a baby absolutely shouldn’t be sleeping (whether supervised or not) in what I think from your description is a sleep pod. That is easily solvable by just buying a safe to sleep in Moses basket like most people have for young babies. Similarly not giving honey (to under 1s) is standard guidance and hardly difficult to do. You need to take more ownership for educating yourself about your children so you can together make sensible choices for both of you. Otherwise you can’t complain about her more anxious conclusions. She also does sound like she’s struggling with post partum depression - ive had two friends go through it and it was hard / antidepressants certainly helped one of them. So did getting more sleep, exercise, therapy and loving supportive relationships. You seem to have very little empathy for what it takes physically for a woman to physically create human beings. And you must be insane to be complaining that you think your wife doesn’t want more than 2 children now when you guys are clearly struggling so much - why on earth would you want more than 2 when it’s so hard right now with just 2.

Imbusytodaysorry · 27/05/2025 10:03

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:15

I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

Your wife needs clinical help ! You are not allowed to sleep ? Wtf
You need to stand up to her . Tell her to seek therapy and support from medicals.
This mad routine needs to stop. .
Work your day shift . Sleep next to the baby when you on your time .
Ask your wife what would happen to you all of you lost your work and had no income ?
You are and will both be sleep deprived with a new baby but surely 5 months in some routine should be sorted .
Id be speaking to the Health visitor about your older child it’s your responsibility too , to make sure your child is getting the help they need .

BobbyBiscuits · 27/05/2025 10:07

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:38

There's absolutely nothing a doctor can do for her. What are they going to do? Slam her on SSRIs?

How would you know? Do you really think doctors can do nothing for people suffering from mental illness? That's ridiculous. Of course she needs a doctor.

crackofdoom · 27/05/2025 10:09

Well meaning people who "don't believe" in medication for mental health can cause a huge amount of damage.

WhatNoRaisins · 27/05/2025 10:12

Your wife really needs to see the doctor for her own sake regardless of whether or not you think it will help. Doing nothing at all isn't going to change anything and this sleep situation isn't sustainable for either of you.

As for having another 2. I think big families were all well and good back in the days when you could just let the older kids be free range so long as they were fed. Now that you can't do that and you have to supervise them all and keep them happy I think it's too much for most families unless they have significant support from extended family or equivalent. You have to let this go.

mynannygoat7 · 27/05/2025 10:15

I think your wife is autistic

GRCP · 27/05/2025 10:19

She has serious mental health problems and, with respect, you are enabling them. You all need to sleep overnight and you need to work normal hours.

GRCP · 27/05/2025 10:21

I think she has post natal anxiety and possibly depression and it will get worse if it isn’t treated. Mine was treated with CBT and, the second time, a combination of CBT and SSRIs.

GRCP · 27/05/2025 10:25

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:58

I don't think she has post-partum. She's usually like this. She is German and the defining characteristic of her personality is extreme anxiety. Her mother is the same way. This is especially true with any form of authority or written rules. A lot of what she does is because she heard or read something that said you have to do it or your baby dies. For instance, she refused to give the babies any honey until they were like 2 years old because a baby got botulism from contaminated honey once like 30 years ago.

That’s like saying asthma is a personality trait.
You aren’t hearing what people are telling you so, I’m out. Good luck.

Readytohealnow · 27/05/2025 10:41

Loubylie · 27/05/2025 09:40

If this is real, your family needs outside help urgently. The life you are living is not normal at all. All of you are at serious risk of harm. If there is no help where you are, your wife should take the children home to Germany so that she gets family support for the children and time to heal her own serious mental health issues in a health system she understands. If that is successful, you could join her there one day.

No way on Earth should she be allowed to be responsible for those poor children without their dad there. She sounds anything but fit to parent.

wordywitch · 27/05/2025 10:43

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2025 09:53

I would also point out the following.

This is an American and a wife who does not work. He objects to SRIIs.

As a woman who doesn't work, her access to healthcare is completely controlled by her husband. If he objects, she's screwed. She may not be covered by his health insurance at all either, it depends on his policy.

She is totally at the mercy of whether he thinks she's ill or whether he thinks he should do what he says.

Yes, precisely. Who’s to say she has access to healthcare at all? It sounds like the OP is self employed doing some kind of start up business, he may not have any health insurance at all, or she may not be covered on his policy. Lots of Americans are uninsured or underinsured. Which may also explain his reluctance to take her to a doctor.

TorroFerney · 27/05/2025 10:44

Oneearringlost · 27/05/2025 08:19

What??!!

She’s being sarcastic

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