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My wife despises me

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GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:08

My wife and I have been married for 3 years and we have been together for 7 years. We are on child #2. He is almost 5 months old.

I work from home. She does not work. She cannot sleep with the baby, so we have an asymmetric sleep schedule. I am responsible for the baby from 8pm or 9pm to 4am or 5am. She wakes up at that time and we trade off. I wake up sometime between 8am and noon, usually when our first child wakes me up.

I wrote about my first child in my only other thread here. She is now 2 going on 3, and is still an incredibly difficult, incredibly independent little girl who does not express any form of affection and is delayed in all forms of social communication. I am convinced she has autism but I am not allowed to say this because my wife becomes upset. She can speak, and will speak, but does not pay attention to anything when directed to pay attention to it, does not address either of us by mama or papa, and only talks about things she is interested in. For instance, she can say "triceratops" and "stegosaurus" perfectly, but I have never heard her say "mama" except once as an infant.

On a typical day we have 1 or 2 hours together. Most days we do not have this time together because she is angry at me. She is angry and depressed almost all the time.

Today, I took the entire day off. It's a holiday in the US. Promptly after waking up at noon, we went into town and did stuff until we got home at 6pm. After 6pm, I took our daughter to the river and I occupied her for 2 hours. When I got back, it was time to put the baby down. The baby was difficult and did not go to sleep easily.

During the 8pm~9pm window where we usually put the baby down, I make a coffee, because I am up for another 8 hours. I offered to hold the baby while making coffee because my wife has been complaining about foot and back pain constantly recently. While making coffee, the baby became irate. She took the baby from me because she will not allow the baby to cry under any circumstance without her holding it. She then also turned off the light. This caused me to spill boiling water and coffee grinds everywhere because I couldn't tell my coffee maker was closed. She turns off the lights whenever possible, even when I'm doing stuff, because it bothers her to see dirt on the floor.

I got irritated but said nothing, I was just visibly annoyed. Once she had the baby again, she fed him and changed him. I thought she had already fed and changed him before giving him to me because she had him for 2 hours before I got home. She made no mention that he needed to bed or changed before giving him to me, and I explicitly said I would be carrying him while making coffee while holding him.

After that I had nothing to do and she did not communicate to me to ask I do anything. So, i took my coffee and went to check on my work. As I mentioned, I work from home. My productivity has been suffering because because I am staying up until 4am instead of working at normal times, and I am having to help more with the two kids. It is frustrating because if I lose this job I know I will have to work a normal 9-5 and I have no reason to believe my wife can handle the children by herself.

While on my computer, she walked the baby in circles, because she doesn't believe the baby can put himself to sleep and will not allow him to fall asleep on his own. She was doing a very noticeable hobbled gimped walk while walking with him when I went out to the bathroom. I offered to take him. She said no.

When the baby was finally laid down, she went to the bathroom and was audibly sobbing. She sent me nasty text messages about how I don't do enough, how I don't try, I do the bare minimum as a form of malicious compliance, and I have the easy job of staying up to 4am because he just sleeps when he's with me. I told her she did not communicate anything to me at any point in time.

I am extremely unhappy. I regret my choices in life. I feel like if I had married someone younger (we were 30 when we had our first) she would be able to keep up with the children. I wanted 4 children but she seems completely overwhelmed with 2 and doesn't seem physically capable of dealing with 2.

She has been making it more clear to me over time that she is not interested in more children (despite 4 being clearly communicated before we got married) and has also been hinted that if we ever got divorced she would deliberately try to make my life as difficult as possible. For instance, today on the way home, we were discussing the license plates on my truck. They are expired and I need to decide in which state I want to tag them. For various reasons, I would only tag them locally (thus avoiding a 12 hour drive to a different state) if I put the vehicle in a company we each own a half of. I joked "the problem with that is then you'd own half my truck" (a joke, feigning over-protectiveness of the truck [she can't even drive, she's from a european major city and has relied on public transit her entire life]); she immediately snapped and used very specific legal language about how I bought it after we were married, so under common law she already owns half of it. It felt very threatening and I did not appreciate it.

Last time I vented everyone told me I was shit and I'm expecting to hear that again. I just want to vent. I don't like talking about my problems to people I know. I just really don't like waking up in each morning noon.

OP posts:
inappropriateraspberry · 27/05/2025 05:02

This whole situation is ridiculous. She needs to see a doctor! If it’s not PND, it could be anxiety issues, or any other kind of d of mental health problem. As to having g the baby sleep on your desk - that is crazy and so unsafe, whether you’re awake or not.
Get your wife tos we someone and start putting the baby in the crib whilst you all get some sleep. I’m sure your wife is not helping your other child either, and she needs to see this.

ImustLearn2Cook · 27/05/2025 05:09

Earlier when a pp asked you why you didn’t sleep when the baby sleeps you replied: I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

Which portrays her as being controlling and completely unreasonable, perhaps even mentally unstable.

Then you later reveal the real reason for your wife wanting the baby to be actively supervised is because the baby is not in a safe sleeping situation. This reveals that she is not actually being unreasonable or controlling and has good judgment rather than being mentally unstable.

You wrote: She insists that I stay awake with the baby because in my office, he sleeps on my computer desk in a small cushioned ring (kind of like a dog bed?) that is not "sleep safe", so I need to be there monitoring him throughout the night.

She’s right about that. Someone does need to be monitoring the baby if they are placed on a desk and could very easily roll off. In fact someone should be within arms reach the whole time. So how about setting up a safer sleep situation in your office such as a small cot or a portable cot. Babies do learn to roll suddenly and unexpectedly. That is why you should never leave them alone on: a nappy change bench or a couch or on a bed etc.

And when you wrote this: For instance, she refused to give the babies any honey until they were like 2 years old because a baby got botulism from contaminated honey once like 30 years ago.

I thought you might need to educate yourself a bit, because your wife is right about the honey. It has been the medical advice for decades. I remember learning about this in the 90’s. It has absolutely nothing to do with a baby getting botulism from contaminated honey once 30 years ago. Honey contains a bacteria that causes infant botulism. Their immune system cannot handle it under 12 months old. As far as I know all honey contains this bacteria and it is not just some jars of honey get contaminated.

You are starting to paint a clearer picture where you have nothing but contempt for your wife. She is not overprotective, unreasonable or mentally unstable. You just want to undermine her, disrespect her and portray her in the worst possible light so that she looks bad and you look like the poor helpless husband just trying to do his best.

As for the prior agreement to have four children, I will say the same thing to you that everyone said to a woman who posted something similar about her husband’s change of mind regarding how many children: It is ok for your wife to change her mind about having more children. No one knows what parenting is going to be like for you until you become a parent.

allovernowtg · 27/05/2025 05:14

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 04:25

It is simply that she is a very light sleeper and finds it difficult to sleep with the baby in the room. She insists that I stay awake with the baby because in my office, he sleeps on my computer desk in a small cushioned ring (kind of like a dog bed?) that is not "sleep safe", so I need to be there monitoring him throughout the night. We do have a crib but it's in our room and it's never used.

I think her plan is that when we move, we put the crib into the third bedroom that will also be my office, and the baby will sleep there overnight alone.

It's a really different setup than last baby. Last baby she slept in a bed directly next to the crib, however the crib was really uncomfortable and the baby never slept in it, so they just slept together most of the time. However, this time, after only a few days, she insisted that some other sleeping arrangement be made because she couldn't do it anymore.

Edited

Ok here is your problem OP. You need a safe sleeping arrangement for the baby so you can both relax while baby sleeps. There are small things like Moses baskets, carry cots that are certified for overnight use, little cribs, travel cots, you need something certified sleep safe, and then a comfortable sleeping space for an adult both in the room where the baby sleeps and somewhere else preferably out of hearing distance. Could be that you take turns to sleep in the bed with baby in the crib and create a separate comfy sleeping spot in the lounge or somewhere. I would see this as number 1 priority, that everyone gets as much sleep as possible, then everything should start getting noticeably better, once baby and all of you get used to sleeping in the new setting.

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1SillySossij · 27/05/2025 05:21

ImustLearn2Cook · 27/05/2025 05:09

Earlier when a pp asked you why you didn’t sleep when the baby sleeps you replied: I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

Which portrays her as being controlling and completely unreasonable, perhaps even mentally unstable.

Then you later reveal the real reason for your wife wanting the baby to be actively supervised is because the baby is not in a safe sleeping situation. This reveals that she is not actually being unreasonable or controlling and has good judgment rather than being mentally unstable.

You wrote: She insists that I stay awake with the baby because in my office, he sleeps on my computer desk in a small cushioned ring (kind of like a dog bed?) that is not "sleep safe", so I need to be there monitoring him throughout the night.

She’s right about that. Someone does need to be monitoring the baby if they are placed on a desk and could very easily roll off. In fact someone should be within arms reach the whole time. So how about setting up a safer sleep situation in your office such as a small cot or a portable cot. Babies do learn to roll suddenly and unexpectedly. That is why you should never leave them alone on: a nappy change bench or a couch or on a bed etc.

And when you wrote this: For instance, she refused to give the babies any honey until they were like 2 years old because a baby got botulism from contaminated honey once like 30 years ago.

I thought you might need to educate yourself a bit, because your wife is right about the honey. It has been the medical advice for decades. I remember learning about this in the 90’s. It has absolutely nothing to do with a baby getting botulism from contaminated honey once 30 years ago. Honey contains a bacteria that causes infant botulism. Their immune system cannot handle it under 12 months old. As far as I know all honey contains this bacteria and it is not just some jars of honey get contaminated.

You are starting to paint a clearer picture where you have nothing but contempt for your wife. She is not overprotective, unreasonable or mentally unstable. You just want to undermine her, disrespect her and portray her in the worst possible light so that she looks bad and you look like the poor helpless husband just trying to do his best.

As for the prior agreement to have four children, I will say the same thing to you that everyone said to a woman who posted something similar about her husband’s change of mind regarding how many children: It is ok for your wife to change her mind about having more children. No one knows what parenting is going to be like for you until you become a parent.

Edited

You don't think his wice is being completely unreasonable in expecting him to be 'on duty' by night and working by day? Why does she get a straight 8 hours sleep and you only get 4?

BerniesAuntie · 27/05/2025 05:38

I don’t get your objection to SSRIs. Do you accept your wife doesn’t sound well? Your comment about her age and inability to parent was very callous. It sounds like both of you are failing your children honestly. You cannot effectively parent either of your children behaving as either of you are. Get your baby’s sleeping situation sorted as a matter of priority. Then you can get some decent sleep. The whole thing sounds like a shitshow and you are 50% responsible but it seems like you both only care about blaming each other. Honestly, grow up.

Muffinmam · 27/05/2025 05:44

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:15

I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

I turned 40 after having my first child. I did everything as my partner (he is male I am female) had severe post natal depression after our baby arrived.

You’re meant to sleep when the baby sleeps.

Also, there’s a reason you’re meant to plan your children - not only to ensure you aren’t exhausted but if you have an autistic child you can get genetic testing and then delay as long as possible any subsequent children.

It is crazy that your wife insists someone be up all night watching the baby. She needs to nap when your baby naps. It also sounds like she has postnatal anxiety.

Also, four children is unrealistic in this economy. Get your toddler assessed for autism (mine was assessed at 3 years old) and put her in daycare.

Your wife needs to be medicated. She’s not coping.

Why is your wife limping?? If she’s injured she needs to get that sorted.

Flashahah · 27/05/2025 05:47

DurinsBane · 27/05/2025 03:15

I bet you wouldn’t say ‘And?’ If the poster was female posting about their male partner

Of course that would not have been said in those circumstances!

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 05:47

Muffinmam · 27/05/2025 05:44

I turned 40 after having my first child. I did everything as my partner (he is male I am female) had severe post natal depression after our baby arrived.

You’re meant to sleep when the baby sleeps.

Also, there’s a reason you’re meant to plan your children - not only to ensure you aren’t exhausted but if you have an autistic child you can get genetic testing and then delay as long as possible any subsequent children.

It is crazy that your wife insists someone be up all night watching the baby. She needs to nap when your baby naps. It also sounds like she has postnatal anxiety.

Also, four children is unrealistic in this economy. Get your toddler assessed for autism (mine was assessed at 3 years old) and put her in daycare.

Your wife needs to be medicated. She’s not coping.

Why is your wife limping?? If she’s injured she needs to get that sorted.

Her feet hurt. I insist she should let the baby fall asleep laying down, even if he's crying, but she won't let him while she's awake. She insists one of us carry him until he sleeps. At night, he sleeps well. At this point he wakes up a single time between 8 and 4, usually between 1 and 3, and after being changed and fed will immediately fall back asleep. I wrap him in a little burrito and that seems to work really well.

At some point I tried to get her to let us all sleep together but she gave up after a few hours the first night.

OP posts:
MumChp · 27/05/2025 05:51

Step up. Get councelling. Wife and child need to see doctors for long time treatment. Family needs a normal sleep/work hours. No more fussing around at night. Get child a proper bed.

Get a nanny to help set up a better life for the children and a cleaner to help in the house if you can afford it.
Forget 4 children and sort this. Right away. Or get divorced.

Skibbidirizzohio · 27/05/2025 05:52

If it’s too difficult with two why on earth do you want two more?

Muffinmam · 27/05/2025 05:53

1SillySossij · 27/05/2025 05:21

You don't think his wice is being completely unreasonable in expecting him to be 'on duty' by night and working by day? Why does she get a straight 8 hours sleep and you only get 4?

The OP has uninterrupted sleep between 5am and 12 noon.

Quite frankly the pair of them have it easier than a lot of other parents.

The OP expects to be told what to do all the time. The baby needs to sleep at night time and the OP’s wife needs to be medicated.

Muffinmam · 27/05/2025 05:56

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 05:47

Her feet hurt. I insist she should let the baby fall asleep laying down, even if he's crying, but she won't let him while she's awake. She insists one of us carry him until he sleeps. At night, he sleeps well. At this point he wakes up a single time between 8 and 4, usually between 1 and 3, and after being changed and fed will immediately fall back asleep. I wrap him in a little burrito and that seems to work really well.

At some point I tried to get her to let us all sleep together but she gave up after a few hours the first night.

Why do her feet hurt?

She’s at home all day. Does she need to see a podiatrist? She shouldn’t be limping.

Muffinmam · 27/05/2025 05:57

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:15

I am not allowed to sleep. I have to be awake to check the baby is breathing. If I fall asleep and she gets up to the bathroom and sees I'm asleep, she gets mad.

Let her get mad. The pair of you are being utterly ridiculous.

Muffinmam · 27/05/2025 05:59

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:38

There's absolutely nothing a doctor can do for her. What are they going to do? Slam her on SSRIs?

Slam her on SSRI’s?

Whats wrong with you? Her hormones are all over the place and you won’t let her take meds to stabilise her mental health?

I take SSRI’s!! They might help your wife with her postnatal anxiety.

WhatMe123 · 27/05/2025 06:02

Op I'm a therapist and this is screaming post natal depression to me
Yes ssris would help so would seeing a therapist

beenwhereyouare · 27/05/2025 06:04

I tried to overlook the remark about marrying someone younger who could handle 4 children. I actually felt sorry for you when you said you're not allowed to sleep! And then you shared your uninformed views on MH providers and treatment.

You're in the States; mental health problems are accepted and treatable and your wife clearly needs help, so why would you say that? Instead of venting here and not being able to change anything, why not put in some time while the baby is asleep and research PND and PNA? Call the NAMI hotline to talk to someone who can give you qualified information and help you find support. Get help for your wife and by extension, your children and yourself.

And for heaven's sake, please stop pushing to have more children. Love your wife and the two little ones you already have.

NAMI (National Alliance for Mental Illness) Helpline
They can also point you to getting care for your daughter.

Applesandpears23 · 27/05/2025 06:07

If you sit with the baby from 9pm until 4am what do you do in that time? Do you work?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/05/2025 06:20

GoldFive · 27/05/2025 03:58

I don't think she has post-partum. She's usually like this. She is German and the defining characteristic of her personality is extreme anxiety. Her mother is the same way. This is especially true with any form of authority or written rules. A lot of what she does is because she heard or read something that said you have to do it or your baby dies. For instance, she refused to give the babies any honey until they were like 2 years old because a baby got botulism from contaminated honey once like 30 years ago.

This is not normal for anyone, German or not.

She needs help. Get her help.

Gissah · 27/05/2025 06:24

No, she is mentally unwell. There are a whole host of medications to help various mental illnesses. Not just SSRI's. There's anti-anxiety meds, anti-pychotics, propranolol.

She would have therapy alongside medication.

This whole situation is untenable and damaging to both you and your wife and kids.

MumChp · 27/05/2025 06:25

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/05/2025 06:20

This is not normal for anyone, German or not.

She needs help. Get her help.

Honey is generally not recommended for babies under one year old due to the risk of infant botulism.
So an okay point. I would leave it and move on.

tartanduck · 27/05/2025 06:25

I am not going to go through all the responses, however if you think your child has autism could it be possible that your wife has ADHD or Autism. She sounds like me when my kids were small. I was hanging on by literal threads, hyper focused on the breathing (angel cate monitor helped that), going by the rules layer out in books and strictly adhering to it. Regardless she needs to see a doctor she sounds very unwell and like she deeply struggling.

User37482 · 27/05/2025 06:28

She sounds really ill to me and why the fuck are you worried about 4 kids when it sounds like your wife is barely holding it together as it is. Blathering on about birth rates isn’t going to help your wife is it.

It’s fine if the doctors put her on medication which allows her to function, for her sake and your children’s sake. Whatever is going on right now is not working for any of you. Focus on getting her right and then focus on getting your child properly assessed.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/05/2025 06:29

MumChp · 27/05/2025 06:25

Honey is generally not recommended for babies under one year old due to the risk of infant botulism.
So an okay point. I would leave it and move on.

I wasn't talking about the honey point. I was talking about his "she can't be depressed she German and therefore always anxious" statement.

Nationality has nothing to do with it. Being an anxious person normally though, much more predisposed to depression when things are changed/more difficult, and having a small child AND a newborn are pretty high up on the difficulty scale.

She needs support not dismissing as "just anxious all the time".

allovernowtg · 27/05/2025 06:31

Just picking up a couple of things from earlier posts.
“100% of my money is available to her”. Interesting phrasing in a marriage. The money is both of yours.
I think you have twice said “I am not allowed to X”. My ex used to love this phrase. It sounds like a sulky teenager to me. Take responsibility for your actions and decisions. “I don’t X because Y”. Or “we have agreed not to X”. Or “I still do X though my wife dislikes it”.
There is some research from Gottman about how marriages last longer when men are willing to take influence from their wives. (Eg on honey, safe sleeping arrangements etc). Might be worth a read.

Pipsquiggle · 27/05/2025 06:34

Your whole set up is not facilitating anyone to live a normal, fulfilling life.........not you, not your wife, not your DC.

Your comment on marrying a younger woman so you could have 4DC is quite frankly ridiculous /stupid / self centered . 30 is young. Physiologically, she could have more DC but she isn't coping with 2 so why are you still thinking about your 'wants' and not helping her.

Her anxiety levels sound off the charts. She needs professional help with this. Counselling, CBT ......
Until this is sorted nothing will improve. Her need for someone being awake for 24/7 to watch the baby is unreasonable (& absurd). Her not being able to face into that your DD could have SEN and seek advice will not help your DD or your family unit.

How old is the baby?

I put my 2DC in a separate room when they were around 14 weeks - we all slept better.

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