Human rights health visitor

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I have seen it here before but the posts are old. Before my baby was born i told my midwife (UK) that i did not want any visits at home. I just like my privacy and want to be able to decide who enters my home. They offer visits as a service so i just decided to not let them in. I was happy to go for appointments.

Then in the hospital when the baby was born, they told me "someone was going to come into my house even if i do not want that". I kept saying no. They kept saying they just wanted to see where the baby would sleep etc. i said no. Then the midwifes came to the door and i told them i did not want them in my house. So they reported me to social services. Social services called me and threatened with official investigation if i do not let the midwifes and later health visitor in my house. Also for the one year visit.

I texted them many times i did not want. I also told them in person. So i have a lot of proof. Ok long story short i let them in.because they threatened with social services investigation = trying to take your baby. I had to let them in, they said everything was fine, and closed the case. But instead of bonding with my baby i was stressed that they were trying to take her away.

So. It is ten months ago so the one year visit is coming and I DO NOT WANT THEM IN MY HOUSE. So i decided to go after them. And yes, it is human rights violation. It is not normal in civilised countries that someone comes to your house without your consent and without a warrant. If you do not let them in they basically threaten to take your baby.

I am not looking for the comments that they are just helping etc. I am not interested in that 😉. What i am looking for here is other moms who went after them. I am researching where to complain. I am also making a list of solicitors who would help me. And maybe some group court case? I will make complaint to NHS. I believe we only have one year for this kind of thing so only people who experienced this last year. Or if you went through going to court and have a good no win no fee lawyer (London or Kent). They are violating human rights you everyone so no, i will not let it go.

what a waste of time and resources. You need counselling, and to learn to speak to people without such a sense of entitlement. If you tell them you don’t want a visit then you won’t get one, unless you act like a twat.

They are not violating your human rights, ffs.
And you don't need to SHOUT!
If this is something you feel so strongly about, why not get a proper solicitor who specialises in violation of human rights? Of course, they may be busy with others whose human rights are being abused such as, torture victims, women subjugated byy religion/men, being sent to a camp to be 're-educated', or disappreaed with no reason.....

It looks like there isn't.

So you're saying normal, developed, civilised first world countries are not using "common sense".

@TaggieO Just to clarify - is that what you're saying?

so, let me get this straight - you think it’s wrong to safety net babies’ welfare and it would be better to allow neglect and cruelty than to perform checks to make sure they were not at risk from harm?

Fuck that, you are utterly unhinged.

To be entirely honest, I went to the baby clinic once. It was Grubby and chaotic with a lot of raised voices (from the staff). The HV I saw had dirty hair and stained clothes, notwithstanding the fact she barely looked up to engage "take his clothes off and put him on the scales". The scales were incorrectly set in that the LCD display noted a minus number before the baby went on. She was writing the weight next to the higher one in the red book and without comment that a three week old baby had lost 8oz. I asked for him to be weighed again with scales reset to zero. She was irritated by that but I felt if the instructed purpose was to have the baby weighed then the weighing needed to be correct, and preferably delivered with a little interest in the mother and baby.

As far as I am concerned, anybody who thought or thinks the levels of cleanliness that prevailed in that clinic were acceptable, is not in a position to make any judgements about my home and nor were they competent to do so. It was a very rough environment.

I never went to another baby clinic or saw another HV again. The service was not good enough or competent enough to provide any support for me and my baby.

They like to check that the baby isn’t living in squalor, if that’s ok with you?

I've been involved in cases where HV's have been instrumental in massively improving the lives of the families they visit: from getting them rehoused from damp, cramped, unsuitable accommodation, getting grants for essential household equipment or furniture, referring families for help with claiming benefits and, in one memorable case, enabling a mother get herself and her children away from her abusive partner.

Maybe we're lucky in my part of the world, but I've never encountered an HV that is judgmental or intrusive.

Christ.... that is truly batshit and suffocating!

No wonder your NHS is on it's knees.

I AM SAYING THAT SANE PEOPLE DO NOT THINK IT’S A BAD THIBG TO MAKE SURE BABIES ARE SAFE. I will not answer you anymore as I think you are utterly mad and I very much hope you do not have children.

Its more common than you think. Feel lucky if you don't have to know or see these things, but don't patronise the people that do!

OP, this is a really strange hill to die on but you do you.

Nope, Australia. And our health system - and protection of children along with Baby Clinics, are streets ahead of yours and your country's obsessive fascist need for control and intrusion while wasting NHS money down the drain.

Yes children do die from neglect in this country and it’s horrific
and tes sometimes the help that the midwife can give can improve or save lives

in this case they may want to get mental health support for OP

How many children tortured to death are you happy with before you’ll accept a professional into your home for a quick welfare check?

I am not talking about health visitors or anything to do with the health visitor. I am talking about the postnatal midwife visit. As per the OP:

the midwifes came to the door and i told them i did not want them in my house. So they reported me to social services.

Yes because that sounds completely rational doesn’t it. Jesus Christ what a way to make you look even more unhinged!

so, let me get this straight - you think that countries who don't have midwives on your doorstep everyday for 10 days or HV are not safety netting babies welfare and are allowing neglect and cruelty because we have PROFESSIONAL Baby Clinics?

Is that what you are truly saying, Taggio ?

If so, THAT is utterly unhinged.

Countries do things different to yours. It doesn't make us neglectful or any other ignorant accusation you want to make.

And they really have the money to waste doing this?

So you’d agree that the UK needs to do more to check on vulnerable children. Australia has entirely different community base and vast underreporting. You’re contributing nothing to the conversation beyond using childish language to exercise your own damaged sense of authority.

Some people truly have issues. I would you to read up what real human rights abuses are like!
Wonder how you’d cope in the real world, we are lucky you can post such drivel without any consequences.

Attending Baby Clinics is a good way to make sure babies are safe! That is how it is done in civilised, modern, first world developed countries. I likewise "think you are utterly mad and I very much hope you do not have children."!

Go live in Australia then - It seems children are not adaquatky protected there

we need more people going into others homes - and money to correct the problems that are in those homes

My grand grandmother grew up in a fascist country and her teacher went to jail for secretly teaching poor children in the minority (oppressed) community. All the ones here spouting about “fascist England” are uneducated morons.

and vast underreporting

More ignorance from you.