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Ex wife

108 replies

TheHappyWriter · 15/08/2024 12:34

Writing on behalf of partner.

Hi, I pay child maintenance for my son, today he has received his a level results so I have reported the change on the child maintenance website. (Previously reported the change when he left college back in late June but my ex wife declined it as she wanted to wait until results day)

CSA have stated that my ex wife is still claiming child benefit and they can't change my payment schedule until she informs child benefit.

My ex wife is refusing to inform child benefit until 1st September - my csa payment is due on 1st September. Therefore, she will receive another payment from me.

My ex wife declines, and has stated she will continue to decline the change in circumstances I put through the csa portal.

Help.

OP posts:
itsmeits · 15/08/2024 16:16

@DuckBee mines Tuesday so the Monday thing isn't correct

AugustAlready · 15/08/2024 16:18

Whatineed · 15/08/2024 16:10

I'm confused.. aside from the argument on Child benefit dates... If you believe you are in the right here, and you provide enough money for your DS, then if your DS wants to start buying things for university surely it would come out of the September payment you make to his mother? What difference does it make who hands him the money in the moment to pay for these things?

Or did you want to relish that "special moment" of handing him the cash directly as a big FU to his mother, OP?

@Whatineed because the payments go to the parent, to help support the child. Housing/bills/food etc they are not the child's to spend.

he wants to give the money to the 'child' directly, not the ex wife.

i can see both sides, but she needed to have planned for this, it was hardly unforeseen. Though it's still means the resident parent usually end up having to keep a bigger home & associated expenses & have all the expenses in the many holidays if the child comes home & usually spends more supporting them term time too, but often non resident parents don't even consider that!

DuckBee · 15/08/2024 16:18

itsmeits · 15/08/2024 16:16

@DuckBee mines Tuesday so the Monday thing isn't correct

The payment maybe on a Tuesday but child benefit rules are always that entitlement starts or ends on a Monday. Payment and entitlement are 2 different issues.

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Whatineed · 15/08/2024 16:32

AugustAlready · 15/08/2024 16:18

@Whatineed because the payments go to the parent, to help support the child. Housing/bills/food etc they are not the child's to spend.

he wants to give the money to the 'child' directly, not the ex wife.

i can see both sides, but she needed to have planned for this, it was hardly unforeseen. Though it's still means the resident parent usually end up having to keep a bigger home & associated expenses & have all the expenses in the many holidays if the child comes home & usually spends more supporting them term time too, but often non resident parents don't even consider that!

I understand completely. This just smacks of a similar experience to a close friend with a Disney Dad who relished the thought of handing DS a wad of cash infront of her with a "go and get smashed at college son, this is all on me, and the money is all yours now" statement, as a FU to her, who he thought was being supported in a lavish lifestyle by his measly payment that barely covered her DCs weekly school meals.

Tiegs · 15/08/2024 18:29

Is the money going to your son or is your ex wife using the money

BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave · 15/08/2024 18:36

Whatthefuck3456 · 15/08/2024 14:07

OP your ex wife sounds like she uses you as a meal ticket. As a woman I think it’s disgusting how women use children to get money!

the OP has told everyone several times he is still going to help his son out, why should he pay the ex wife??? OP the minute you can stop it then do, men can’t win either way on this site; it doesn’t matter if they pay or not they still get abuse!

Yeah, she'll be living the life of Riley on the princely £300 a month 🙄

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 18:47

ByCupidStunt · 15/08/2024 13:22

Oh just pay it, it's £300 for the last time.

Have you read his further posts? Sound like his ex wife is using the money for her needs and not her sons. The OP wants to give him the £300 directly instead of giving it to his ex who obviously won't share it with her son!

I don't think the OP is asking anything wrong here, he still has his son's best interests at heart as he wants him to have the money.

Theunamedcat · 15/08/2024 19:02

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 18:47

Have you read his further posts? Sound like his ex wife is using the money for her needs and not her sons. The OP wants to give him the £300 directly instead of giving it to his ex who obviously won't share it with her son!

I don't think the OP is asking anything wrong here, he still has his son's best interests at heart as he wants him to have the money.

It's three hundred pounds he is legally obligated to pay no use crying about it just pay and then your free

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 19:04

Theunamedcat · 15/08/2024 19:02

It's three hundred pounds he is legally obligated to pay no use crying about it just pay and then your free

Actually after the 2nd September he isn’t!

The money is for his son, not the ex wife. I love how everyone is jumping down his throat and not even batting an eyelid that the ex wife doesn’t appear to actually be giving it to the son for things he needs!

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 15/08/2024 19:14

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 19:04

Actually after the 2nd September he isn’t!

The money is for his son, not the ex wife. I love how everyone is jumping down his throat and not even batting an eyelid that the ex wife doesn’t appear to actually be giving it to the son for things he needs!

Presumably she uses it to pay the bills. Which the child benefits from on account of needing things like a roof over his head, heating, hot water etc.

Theunamedcat · 15/08/2024 19:15

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 19:04

Actually after the 2nd September he isn’t!

The money is for his son, not the ex wife. I love how everyone is jumping down his throat and not even batting an eyelid that the ex wife doesn’t appear to actually be giving it to the son for things he needs!

His payment day is the 1st? What's your point?

TygerLyon · 15/08/2024 19:28

Whatthefuck3456 · 15/08/2024 14:07

OP your ex wife sounds like she uses you as a meal ticket. As a woman I think it’s disgusting how women use children to get money!

the OP has told everyone several times he is still going to help his son out, why should he pay the ex wife??? OP the minute you can stop it then do, men can’t win either way on this site; it doesn’t matter if they pay or not they still get abuse!

The now adult son has lived with her presumably since the OP and ex split.
He has paid, through CSA (so not willingly, backed up by him seeing this as her punishing him) £300 a month, which will be the fair calculated amount going by his wage.

The OP played a part in creating his son, why the fuck would doing his bit be the ex wife’s meal ticket?

I’m so sick of the low bar set for men’s behaviour as fathers and husbands.

RedHelenB · 15/08/2024 19:32

Your son winter go to uni until the end of Sept so if there's a payment for September thrn it covers that month at his mums Doesn't seem unfair to me And once he's at uni any money you want to give can go to him direct.

summertimessadness24 · 15/08/2024 19:57

OMG and your ex is the difficult one ? Really?

Just pay up FFS!

PP who advised to cancel the DD shame on you

And you mentioned it wasn't you that was bothered it was your son?!
Children no matter what age shouldn't be involved in conversations like this

I don't feel this post is real because if it was surely you would not think it's not ok to pay your LAST payment for your son 🙄

And everyone that's had the same opinion you've argued with

Seriously if I was your ex I'd give you the £300 back if it made you happy

People have so many bigger issues than this
Can't believe what I've read today

summertimessadness24 · 15/08/2024 19:59

Who cares what ex is using the money for ? He gives a measly £300

My ex pays maintenance of £350 and it no way covers and I'll use it for what I want

Geez I can't believe some people
My ex wouldn't dream of this

summertimessadness24 · 15/08/2024 20:00

Heatwavenotify · 15/08/2024 16:12

@LL1991 I’m lost for words 🤣🤣🤣

Me too - unbelievable Isn't it

summertimessadness24 · 15/08/2024 20:01

LL1991 · 15/08/2024 14:54

Not read all the comments but isn't this fraud on her part? I thought child benefit stopped when this hit 18, if he's 19 in a few months she could be doing wrong here?
The legal route could be expensive but may be worth getting legal advice and getting a letter sent to her (just to scare her) - especially if you think she'll keep coming up with more excuses and it won't just be 1 more month.

I'd be almost certain that at 18 he'd be buying his own clothes, going out for meals with his mates, etc and that he won't be seeing much of the £300 you give her (other than when he sticks his head in the fridge), especially if he has his own job.

Fraud are you actually serious?
No this is not fraud but lol

AnneElliott · 15/08/2024 20:14

Heatwavenotify · 15/08/2024 12:57

Op I’d be embarrassed to write that on behalf of my partner. “CSA is set up to punish working dads”. Thanks for the laugh this morning!

Yes exactly this. Do you realise how many kids live in poverty? And of those how many live in single mum households where the dad doesn't contribute? That's the problem with the CSA not what you're complaining about.

HappyHeader · 15/08/2024 20:26

Imagine the most important thing on the day your son gets his A-level results is figuring out how to no longer contribute to his costs?

You’re a disgrace of a father, and the woman who is posting this on your behalf is a pathetic mug.

TeenLifeMum · 15/08/2024 20:36

£300 a month for a child? How does our country allow that to happen? My dog costs that, a human you made costs so much more. I’m not saying the ex isn’t a nightmare but let’s not pretend you’re the definition of generous.

TygerLyon · 15/08/2024 20:43

HappyHeader · 15/08/2024 20:26

Imagine the most important thing on the day your son gets his A-level results is figuring out how to no longer contribute to his costs?

You’re a disgrace of a father, and the woman who is posting this on your behalf is a pathetic mug.

I missed that!

What a prince 😂

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 20:45

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 15/08/2024 19:14

Presumably she uses it to pay the bills. Which the child benefits from on account of needing things like a roof over his head, heating, hot water etc.

He’s off to uni in two weeks. He won’t be using utilities. She should be giving it to him so he can get the things he needs. Isn’t that what child support is for?

Wontletmeusemynormalname · 15/08/2024 20:47

Freeyourmind · 15/08/2024 12:54

Child maintenance stops when the child benefit stops and if he is going to university then the child benefit stops 2nd September. On the flip side he won't have started university by then and will still be supported primarily by his mother so I can see why she would feel entitled to the final payment.

Mine stopped the last day of term. I had also thought it was the Sep following.

iloveshetlandponies · 15/08/2024 21:01

I'm not sure whether I'm more embarrassed for this dad or the woman who's posted for him

Awful. Just bloody pay it .

TygerLyon · 15/08/2024 21:12

witsendhelppleaae · 15/08/2024 20:45

He’s off to uni in two weeks. He won’t be using utilities. She should be giving it to him so he can get the things he needs. Isn’t that what child support is for?

I always thought it was to add into the general pot that pays for bills (the roof over their heads, the utilities that you can’t live without but are expensive), school uniform, general costs involved in having a child.

What it’s not is pocket money that goes direct to the child, until his CM payments stop.

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