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hands up if you are a slummy mummy??

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nappyaddict · 13/04/2008 01:09

fantastic website here to give you tips

come on own up! what things do you do that make people gasp in horror? are you the sort of mum who wipes dummies and bottle tears on your tshirt and gives straight back if they get dropped? i have done it with biscuits too stuff the 3 second rule - it's 10 seconds here!! i always forget to wash my hands after nappy changes too and tbh i only use wipes and water for poohey nappies. with wet ones i just take it off and put the new one on straight away

i am often forgetting to brush ds' teeth. we never brush them at nighttime and he will sometimes go 2 days without having them brushed. must remember to step this up a bit when he gets his adult teeth.

i don't change ds' nappy as often as i should. i did have to dry ds trousers under the handdryer in the toilets though cos i had left one on too long. usually try and change him about every 4 hours but sometimes i just ... forget. he normally only has a bath and hairwash once a week but episodes like this mean he sometimes has an extra one midweek.

also once when we weren't travelling far and it was pitch black i didn't strap the car seat in properly, just put it on the back seat. we had a very awkward car seat that in 2 peoples cars does not strap in properly. i just made sure the front seat is right against it so it can't go anywhere. our car seat was one of those that lies flat when on the pushchair, so in the car is meant to be in the most upright position. at 3 months old this didn't look very comfortable but did it anyway as i couldnt get the car seat in my friends car if i didn't. cue gasps from this woman saying oooh he shouldn't be upright like that. cue her saying oh my dd got her ds one of those door bouncers - you should get him one. now to me they look dangerous!

oh and not really child related but i rarely wear a seatbelt myself. i do in other people's cars though ...

oh and weight limits and warnings on baby products. ds sat in his baby seat for months after he could sit up and was over the weight limit.

the only thing i would be anal about really is drawing on walls and ripping wallpaper which luckily ds hasn't done yet. he is allowed to play with balls in the house, and ride his trike and ride ons in the house too. i also let him push his cars along the wall. have to watch him at other people's houses cos they usually tell their kids off for that. will let him skate in the house too when he's old enough.

not at this stage yet, but my mum used to sometimes let me have the day off school just because and i will probably let ds occasionally have a day off. for me it was usually because i hadn't done some homework that was due in.

when i go out for the day and take milk i just shove it in my handbag - no chilled cool bags for ds! oh and i feed him cold milk and have fed him cold baby food before. i often don't plan meals then he is screaming for dinner so in a mad panic i will open the fridge i give him whatever is edible uncooked. yesterday he had ham, malt loaf with butter and a cherry yohghurt altogether on his highchair. he ate the yoghurt first. today he had banana, meatballs, yoghurt and chocolate brioche.

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getmeouttahere · 13/04/2008 19:25

would NOT NOT NOT NOT

FFS

littlelamb · 13/04/2008 19:27

at this thread. The seatbelt and bath issues are really hard for me to understand. We all have slack days but that is just unbelievable to me. And allowing your child to have no discipline does them NO favours. ime children who draw on walls etc do it for the attention, and having no rules, while you may feel is being really liberal and cool IS a lack of attention. One of my friends is like this to an extent with her dd, not quite to the same extent, but she lets her touch things she shouldn't, lets her hit children and as a result my dd does not want to be around this child, and she is not the only one. I don't blame the child, it's not their fault if they are not brought up to know acceptable behaviour, but I do feel sorry for her as none of the other children will choose to play with her I really don't understand why the op is proud of some of this stuff.

getmeouttahere · 13/04/2008 19:38

Fuck. Double negative now.

Ignore me. Lost the plot.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

lucyellensmum · 13/04/2008 19:40

i can;t understand why any of you are taking this seriously?? surely nappyaddict is taking the piss??

ScoobyDoo · 13/04/2008 19:43

Hmm not really sure what to make of this thread, have read a few of Nappyaddicts threads lately & she is seeming a bit lost i think.

Some things you mention yes i can identify with i am sure many mums have done something once in there childs life but things like the seat belt & the baths unattended are actually being neglectful, why would you want to risk your sons life?

Some would say relaxed, some would say stupid & others would say neglectful.

NA you say you want to move out of your mums & you say your mum trys to take over with your ds is it really any wonder why? have you read your posts back?

You do seem to like to start these kind of threads, it's like the one where you wanted to leave your ds asleep in the house alone with a neighbour keeping an ear out on a monitor next door while you went to work, then you said it was a joke, then it wasn't, is there some deep issues here?

I hope you are ok, you actually sound like your struggling....

Fillyjonk · 13/04/2008 20:00

re-the jumping on sofas and riding on trikes indoors

my kids ARE allowed to do this IN OUR HOUSE

We have a good house for such things, as the downstairs is entirely tiles/wood floor

And we are talking these

We've never had any problems in other people's houses. They know that we allow it because it works in our house, but that other people generally don't.

Actually we also allow drawing on the walls-we often tape lining paper up and let them draw a really big long picture...

Again no problems re drawing on other people's walls.

BUT they aren't doing this because they are running wild, there are rules around these things iykwim.

lulumama · 13/04/2008 20:56

i am torn between wanting to give nappy a good shake and a cup of tea and a hug

i agree with notjustmom. and fiodyl

if you are struggling then ask for help

if you genuinely believe that this is the best you can do, then you need to ask for help

there is a line , certainly , between benign neglect and true neglect

no seatbelts, lack of basic hygiene ( hand washing after the loo and before food ) leaving in teh bath unattended.. all of these things could make him ill or worse.

nothing wrong with freedom and being relaxed, but no boundaries with socialisng, eating and playing will cause repercussions

it might be easier than saying no to a wilful two year old, but in the long run it is bad news

children actually thrive knowing where they are and what their boundaries are, it helps them feel secure

getmeouttahere · 13/04/2008 20:56

Filly.

I think you are mad.

davidtennantsmistress · 13/04/2008 21:13

haven't read the whole thread but i'm a 'slummy' mummy on some days and in my own house - ie when we're up late & i'm a can't really be bothered to do much - those days are usually PJ days, where we potter about, DS usually has crafts of sorts all over the table, his toys are everywhere, i'm tidying around at the same time, he's tidying around (or trying to) I change his bottom every 3-4 Hours, more if there's a rash, less if he's not done anything) and night time there's one which is on 12 hours but don't see the point in waking him up when I go to bed if he's not pooed obv I do if he's pooed.

otehr days we have great structure- at groups, etc, he goes in the garden and gets as muddy as he can - we go to the park and he runs about like a loon.

i've taken him out in the car over to mums with no shoes on (didn't see the point when we're in and out).

but somethings I won't budge on - when we're out, he's well behaved & i'm not as relaxed with him, he knows to say please thank you etc. (this is another thing I won't budge on) we wash hands as well coming in from the garden & changing bottoms, (am trying to teach him potty training) he has a set bed tiem every day - only time he's half an hour late is the night we pick XH up from the station and even then it's only half an hour later.

the basic rules for my house is within reason (ie no drawing on my walls or trashing the house or anything that's dangerous) do as you wish. but in other peoples house DS knows to behave. to be fair thou even at 2 - he know's he can jump on my bed and his bed but that's all he's not allowed to jump/climb over any other furniture. again at home his food - my attitude is like yours somedays we'll have a proper meal i've cooked and he uses his cutlery, otehr days we have ifits and he uses his hands, but I know as well I can take him out to a resturant (cavery meal) and he'll sit and eat everything nicely.

davidtennantsmistress · 13/04/2008 21:15

oh and our teeth brushing thing is the same as well - we both sit in the bath room either side of the sink and brush our teeth together - DS loves mimicing at the minute.

UnderRated · 13/04/2008 21:18

NappyAddict,

Having children is a responsibility. As parents, it is our job to raise them the best way we can. To make sure they are loved (I have no doubt you love your DS), safe and well cared for. If you are struggling, please ask for help.

I think that you listing all these things could be a good thing. I am sure you are a good mum and care about DS, but I think you might need to consider which things matter and which don?t. Perhaps you could identify the things that pose a health or safety risk ? that could cause serious injury or worse - and try and sort those out? Some of the things you mention are imho really important. Others less so. We all end up being in a rush and have to cut corners but safety is not something to be cavalier about. Maybe if some of these things were addressed, your mum may be less concerned? I do worry that notjustmom is right and that there is something deeper going on. I hope you are ok.

This is probably very patronizing, but I went through your lists and though about what is important to me. This is just my opinion and my way of parenting. I am not saying my way is the right way or even the best way. But it is what I do (or think I will do when DS is bigger).

Important things that can?t be compromised:
? Car Seat MUST be installed correctly and belt fastened
? Fasten your own seatbelt (in some parts of the US, you can get stopped & fined for not wearing a seatbelt)
? Brushing teeth twice a day
? Not leaving him in the car while you go to the shop or at home while you go out, even for 5 mins (but I might be neurotic about this)
? Do not leave him unattended in the bath
? If you have to leave him unattended in the highchair, make sure he is strapped in

Things to think about (for me these are also non-negotiable, but I know everyone is different):
? Washing hands after nappy changes
? Washing hands before preparing food & eating
? Changing nappies when needed (but I think you do this)
? Following weight guidelines on baby equipment (ok, so some things are less important than others)
? Doing homework, attending school even when you don?t want to
? stairgates, fireguards, plug covers, cupboard locks ? some people have kids who never seem to need these. I do need them.
? Supervising DS when he is playing. We can?t do it all the time, but think about when it is important to be there and when it is ok to do something else for a few mins.
? Having the baby monitor with you if you go to next door?s garden
? Using sunscreen ? it not only protects from being burnt but may help prevent skin cancer
? Checking the temperature of bath water
? Reading to him daily, not necessarily at bedtime.

? Things to perhaps teach DS at some point:
? Not to draw on the walls or rip wallpaper
? Not to throw balls or jump on furniture in other people?s homes
? That actions have consequences ? e.g. if you don?t do homework, you get in trouble. That is not a bad thing to learn.
? When & how to say sorry
? Not to hit & how to deal with it if someone hits him

Things that probably don?t matter too much.
? Dropped bottle/ food on the floor being eaten (depending where it was dropped)
? Taking milk in your handbag (I usually take water when we go out so it doesn?t go off)
? If he skips a meal or two
? Not having a routine (although I need one and would be hopeless without)
? Going out in dressing up clothes (DS went to the park in his Halloween pumpkin outfit last week complete with giraffe boots and bike helmet . It was rather amusing and slightly embarrassing but who cares. He?s 2. He chose it himself, (obviously, I hope), and was happy. Therefore I was happy)
? Eating in the car (I am neurotic about choking so don?t let DS do this)
? Tasting people?s drinks
? Not brushing hair
? Odd socks
? Pen on his hands etc
? Not tidying up as much as you think you should
? Not reading a bedtime story IF you read to him regularly. That is REALLY important.
? Not fussing if he falls and is not really hurt
? Not wearing shoes if he is walking on broken glass or dog poo etc
? Wearing PJs all day
? Not arranging food into smiley faces
? Using a bottle
? Having pudding if he doesn?t eat his dinner

When he goes to school, he will need to be clean, hair brushed and nose wiped because children are mean about those things. And yes, other people will judge.

Rolling in mud, splashing in puddles, climbing trees and wearing a tutu whilst pushing a pram are all part of childhood. Just like licking the bowl when you bake. I agree ? he most definitely should be able to do these things if he wants. And playing with keys, saucepans, calculators isn?t bad either.

I know you plan interesting meals and you seem to enjoy cooking. He is lucky to be given such a range of meals (wine in spag bol is fine btw because the alcohol evaporates).

I take batteries out of annoying toys too

WatsTheStory · 13/04/2008 21:27

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kerryk · 13/04/2008 21:31

that must have taken you ages underrated.

very well done though, i agree with your way of ordering things.

Stais86 · 13/04/2008 21:53

Have just read this thread and can honetly say I'm horrified!!! There are some things which can be accepted as having a bad day or it could be left to later but when it comes to issues like the car seat what ws it you said Well it won't be fitte properly anyway! You do realise you ar putting your childs life at risk? I just hope your child doesn't end up being the one to pay for your sheer laziness and lack of common sense!

notjustmom · 13/04/2008 22:17

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UnderRated · 13/04/2008 22:31

I agree notjustmom - I hope NA is ok.

lucyellensmum · 13/04/2008 22:36

Hijack

WallofSilence: Hows things with you??

As you were girls......

I honestly think nappy addict is trolling, maybe trying to be provocative, how old is she?

VictorianSqualor · 13/04/2008 22:37

19 I thnk LEM.
I don't think she was trolling tbh, I think she was trying to make a funny 'let's not beat ourselves up about not being perfect' thread and went a bit OTT.

lucyellensmum · 13/04/2008 22:43

reasons i am a slummy mummy:

I dont think DD brushes her teeth properly but kicks off if i try to do it so i dont bother.

DD has sweets and chocolate, nearly every day (but does eat lots of fruit and veg)

Sometimes, no, most times, i dont brush her hair i just chuck it in a scrunchie - her beautiful curly blonde hair is a nightmare

I often take her out, realise she has a dirty face and either dont bother to clean it or spit on my hankie

All of our walls in our house have been "decorated" by DD, we will decorate when she grows out of it.

There are toys everywhere, in fact the house is a pigsty.

To some people those things might matter, i know someone who's house is perfect but she lets her son eat shit from the cat litter tray and play in the garden on his own at 17m, that would freak me out. Its horses for courses.

Slummy mummy is ridiculous anyway, its as shit as yummy mummy - im neither

lucyellensmum · 13/04/2008 22:47

AH:I was nineteen when i had DD1 - a very different mummy to what i am to DD2 ( im 37). I wouldnt have done half the things that NA purports to have done on her posts, but i might have posted out of immaturity, for shock value. I think i would have loved to have mumsnet back then.I lived with my parents too, they were fantastic.

SlartyBartFast · 13/04/2008 22:50

i often neglect to hoover.
not forget.
just neglect

WatsTheStory · 13/04/2008 22:51

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VictorianSqualor · 13/04/2008 22:53

She's young and foolish and probably exaggerating slightly with some of what she said, maybe struggling but I think her mum does quite a bit so hopefully not struggling too much.