Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Parenting

For free parenting resources please check out the Early Years Alliance's Family Corner.

I don’t think I can forgive this

372 replies

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 18:06

Need advice more than ever- I want to be sure I’m not overreacting.

As my wife works away, my Mother in law comes down for a couple of days to help look after our son (3 years old) when he is not in nursery- this is something we have had in place for some time.

The relationship between my MiL and myself isn’t amazing (I had raised concerns about her struggling to look after our son and she took it badly and it lead to serious family conflict but that’s a whole other box of frogs)

Earlier this week, I arrived home to find my front door wide open, MiLs car gone , and our son Standing in the drive way visibly distraught and wet.

after I confirmed that MiL was not in the house (taking my son with me) i went to load my son into My car, which was nice and warm.

At that point my MiL drove up the drive way - When I asked her why she had left my son alone and that I had found him outside , she responded that she was sorry but she had told him she would only be a few minutes.

I did some quick maths and came to the conclusion that the nearest shop is 5 mins by car but factoring in getting there , getting the items and coming back, it was 15-20 mins at minimum.

as we went inside she nonchalantly apologies for “putting him in danger “ and went up stairs.

I later confronted her about it again, in a calm manner asking for an explanation.

MiL acknowledged my concerns, again, in a very nonchalant manner and informed me that she would would be leaving and would not be returning.

when I asked, why she didn’t just take him with her she replied “He didn’t want to come”

because I have previously been in a situation where it is my word against my Mil - I recorded the conversation- mainly for two reasons 1. To show my wife the odd behaviour, as I am partially convinced this is a health related thing and 2. To have some evidence about what was said to avoid any shenanigans later down the line.

she then approach my son and spoke to him as if she would never see him again then left.

I got quite angry inside as I felt this was MiL playing a bit of psychological game.
I have spoken to my wife and she will be speaking to her mum when she gets back.

personally I feel that what has happened is a step too far, and until I’m satisfied with an explanation, I will be looking to ensure my son is not left with MiL unsupervised.

to say that I am absolutely furious is an understatement - and MiL nonchalant- stroppy response has really set my teeth to grind.

im equally angry at myself …I saw things that concerned me over a year ago but when I tried to push it , I had MiL, BiL, and even wife telling me I was overreacting and that ultimately lead to a huge family rift.

I keep thinking of little James Bulger and how his parents would have never in a million years expected to experience what happened.

OP posts:
MysteryBelle · 10/10/2023 21:10

I’ve read all your posts on this thread. Your mil is demented. She knew exactly what she did and didn’t care. I wonder what else she’s done that you don’t know about.

Your bil is stupid. And I must say your wife doesn’t have a lot of sense either. The whole in-law clan seems to think the world revolves around evil grandma and how they can enable and prop her up no matter what, no matter what befalls your 3 year old son. Those are some twisted family dynamics of which your wife has been a willing participant.

I don’t care if she’s in shock. I don’t care if you get mad at me for saying that. You’re being way too deferential to your foolish wife and in-laws. They’re the reason psycho was able to leave door unlocked and your son standing outside alone. Nobody leaves a three year old to go get a sack of flour. Her nonchalant ‘sorry for putting toddler in danger (hee hee)’ as she heads upstairs as if she can do whatever she pleases is sinister.

WanderingAroundintheLark · 10/10/2023 21:10

Is this not a crime?

MysteryBelle · 10/10/2023 21:11

Yes it’s a crime.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

WanderingAroundintheLark · 10/10/2023 21:12

Yep it's a crime... if a child is left alone and is at risk. Ffs door open on the drive. Not ok. What on earth has your wife said about it

DepartureLounge · 10/10/2023 21:13

My first thought was a dementia picture, except that there's something very manipulative about the melodrama of saying goodbye to your DS "as if she would never see him again" and that makes me think more in terms of a mental health problem or some kind of long-unresolved family drama you're not entirely up to speed with. The incendiary reaction last time you brought up MIL's issues also suggests there may be some kind of backstory here.

Like a pp I'd have suggested alcohol - just because she bought flour doesn't mean she only bought flour - except that you say she doesn't drink. Although late onset alcoholism is a thing (and a growing problem) too.

Whatever else, you're definitely not overreacting though. Your poor son. I hope he didn't think he was being abandoned. Without knowing what immediately preceded her departure, it's hard to know what he may have made of it all. Thank goodness he's safe.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:14

@Boundoverbyacat I beg your pardon ?!

OP posts:
ChimbarasiKotapaxi · 10/10/2023 21:14

Seems to me it could be the start of dementia

cartagenagina · 10/10/2023 21:17

Boundoverbyacat · 10/10/2023 21:08

You sound a bit odd op

By odd, do you mean completely fucking traumatised, like most parents would be?

Bluela18 · 10/10/2023 21:17

That's absolutely shocking leaving a child , anything could have happened. You are very right to never want her to be left alone with your child again, it's clearly very dangerous. Good you got a recording. Talking to a child as if she will never see them again is definitely a form of psychological game and abuse, trying to play victim.

HowToSaveAWife · 10/10/2023 21:18

Are you sure she was lucid in answering you and not that she was being led by you? As in "did you leave johnny on the drive?" "Yes I left him there..." or did she nonchalantly say yeah he didn't want to come to the shop so I said I'd be back in a few minutes?

Best case she's ill.

Worst case she's a negligent bitch.

Either way, you're not over reacting and I don't think I could ever shift the ache in my chest from seeing my child that vulnerable.

Has she form for not giving a damn about her actions?

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:20

@MysteryBelle on the contrary, I really appreciated your candour on the matter.

id say you hit the nail on the head - they are a very close knit three and very protective of MiL …I’m still seen As a bit of an outsider and how dare I have an opinion on their behaviour

but this has affected my DS and the line has to be drawn.

OP posts:
3luckystars · 10/10/2023 21:23

Your wife is making bad decisions. Don’t doubt yourself again!

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:23

@HowToSaveAWife apparently she’s telling her Son that I “sacked her as grandma”

she was clear as a hell- she openly admitted what she did was wrong , and seemed to understand why I was so concerned.

but there was a distinct lack of emotion in her interaction with me …”yes. I know I put him in danger and I’ve said I’m sorry”

just odd

OP posts:
Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:24

@3luckystars I think this has all fundamentally changed me as a person.

OP posts:
HowToSaveAWife · 10/10/2023 21:25

Just don't react to her anymore. She sounds like someone who could easily sidestep her way into being the victim. Give her nothing and hopefully your wife rages at her.

If she doesn't, I don't think I could forgive her either.

3luckystars · 10/10/2023 21:25

Good. Never ever doubt yourself again.

Shufflebumnessie · 10/10/2023 21:27

I applaud you for composing a extremely calm and rational explanation of the situation and for the restrain you showed during the incident. I would have absolutely lost it with her!
Under the circumstances she would never be having unsupervised contact with my child again, and I don't think I'd be allowing supervised contact for a considerable period of time either - certainly not until she'd recognised the enormity and severity of the situation, and the immediate danger she put your child in, and apologised sincerely.

Dymaxion · 10/10/2023 21:28

but there was a distinct lack of emotion in her interaction with me …”yes. I know I put him in danger and I’ve said I’m sorry”

Why on earth would she think that a quick sorry would be enough ?

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:29

@HowToSaveAWife
i would say she is very manipulative…unfortunately for her I learned my lesson the first time round and made preparations ..I.e the recording.

apparently she has told her son (BiL) that I sacked her as Grandma

OP posts:
Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:31

@Dymaxion exactly this …I was so taken aback ..I said “I’ll take the day off work tomorrow to look after DS” and she sort of laughed and said “you can do what you like “

OP posts:
Lauraa7 · 10/10/2023 21:32

It sounds like she deserved to be sacked! Sometimes it can feel like you’re swimming against the ocean, but you’re 100% doing the right thing by your son, and putting boundaries in place to protect him. She shouldn’t be anywhere near him in the future.

Dymaxion · 10/10/2023 21:32

apparently she has told her son (BiL) that I sacked her as Grandma

She resigned ! Plus leaving a three year old home alone whilst you nip to the shops in the car is not Grandma like behaviour.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:33

@110APiccadilly it’s a horrible one because if it is …we can look to move past it but if it is t then I cannot forgive and will probably never speak to her again

OP posts:
Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:34

@Dymaxion to me it sounds like she’s trying to stir the pot by telling my BiL that …she knows that will elicit some sort of reaction.

OP posts:
Nazzywish · 10/10/2023 21:37

I must've read that wrong she left him at 3 years old !!??! What the heck, it doesn't bare thinking about the potential harm he could've come to. Especially as he was stood with the front door open whe u got there ! Blimey OP never let her mind the kid again no matter what she says or how difficult a position ur in work wise, stick him with a childminder or nursery for extra hours even. You can not let this slide this time it is just too much