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I don’t think I can forgive this

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Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 18:06

Need advice more than ever- I want to be sure I’m not overreacting.

As my wife works away, my Mother in law comes down for a couple of days to help look after our son (3 years old) when he is not in nursery- this is something we have had in place for some time.

The relationship between my MiL and myself isn’t amazing (I had raised concerns about her struggling to look after our son and she took it badly and it lead to serious family conflict but that’s a whole other box of frogs)

Earlier this week, I arrived home to find my front door wide open, MiLs car gone , and our son Standing in the drive way visibly distraught and wet.

after I confirmed that MiL was not in the house (taking my son with me) i went to load my son into My car, which was nice and warm.

At that point my MiL drove up the drive way - When I asked her why she had left my son alone and that I had found him outside , she responded that she was sorry but she had told him she would only be a few minutes.

I did some quick maths and came to the conclusion that the nearest shop is 5 mins by car but factoring in getting there , getting the items and coming back, it was 15-20 mins at minimum.

as we went inside she nonchalantly apologies for “putting him in danger “ and went up stairs.

I later confronted her about it again, in a calm manner asking for an explanation.

MiL acknowledged my concerns, again, in a very nonchalant manner and informed me that she would would be leaving and would not be returning.

when I asked, why she didn’t just take him with her she replied “He didn’t want to come”

because I have previously been in a situation where it is my word against my Mil - I recorded the conversation- mainly for two reasons 1. To show my wife the odd behaviour, as I am partially convinced this is a health related thing and 2. To have some evidence about what was said to avoid any shenanigans later down the line.

she then approach my son and spoke to him as if she would never see him again then left.

I got quite angry inside as I felt this was MiL playing a bit of psychological game.
I have spoken to my wife and she will be speaking to her mum when she gets back.

personally I feel that what has happened is a step too far, and until I’m satisfied with an explanation, I will be looking to ensure my son is not left with MiL unsupervised.

to say that I am absolutely furious is an understatement - and MiL nonchalant- stroppy response has really set my teeth to grind.

im equally angry at myself …I saw things that concerned me over a year ago but when I tried to push it , I had MiL, BiL, and even wife telling me I was overreacting and that ultimately lead to a huge family rift.

I keep thinking of little James Bulger and how his parents would have never in a million years expected to experience what happened.

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Mistressanne · 10/10/2023 21:37

Let your bil think what he wants.
It’s your ds and you put him first. If your bil wants to side with a person who put his nephew at risk then the relationship is worth zilch.

Nazzywish · 10/10/2023 21:40

And..so do not put your BIL or MIL potential for family drama above your ds safety. I'd message them everything Inc recordings then just block and ignore

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:44

@Nazzywish agreed - the gloves are most definitely off now

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Dymaxion · 10/10/2023 21:46

Would she have told you that she had left DS alone and he had managed to get out of the house and was standing on the drive, wet, when she returned, if you hadn't caught her in the act ? I don't think she would have and that's as scary as thinking she could leave him on his own !

San141 · 10/10/2023 21:47

I'm so sorry. I've only read your comments, but wow!! You need to stop this woman (mil) my son is nearly 7 and other than being in the garden while I go to the toilet he's never left. It's like the teachers all walking out of school and leaving the kids! Please do not leave your little boy with her EVER again x

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:47

@Dymaxion i agree - if I hadn’t caught her then nothing would have been said .
which begs the question - has this happened before ?

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Worddance · 10/10/2023 21:47

What a horrible shock.

I would guess that she is going downhill mentally. I hope it works out with your wife

dothehokeycokey · 10/10/2023 21:49

@Confusedhusband87

My mil used to come over at 3.25 to pick primary aged dc up at 3.30 at the end of the road and watch him at ours until 5.30 twice a week.

In the course of two weeks she forgot to actually walk up and collect dc twice and a friend of mine walked the child back to mine and she let her and a friend (age 6) at the time out to play and then lost her. Didn't get up to go and search but sent my 10'year old and her friend out to look instead. Luckily they were in the park (across a road and about five mins) from mine.

I got home that day and nothing was said until 10 year old told me after mil had gone.
I rang her and asked her what the hell she thought she was doing and her response was all oh whoops sorry I know I should t have let her go but she wanted to Hmm

I made it clear that it was not ok to do that and all was fine for about two weeks when a friend messaged me at work to say she had found dc and was everything ok Shock

I rang her and asked what did she mean and apparently mil had yet again let her go out to play with a friend and the friends mum had gone to mine to pick her child up and they were nowhere to be seen ShockShockShock

Friend frantically went looking and found them both so I had to apologise profusely to her and let rip on mil.

That was the last time I ever let her have dc unsupervised

She doesn't have dementia or any other issues like that she just has no emotional connection with anyone or anything and can be very manipulating.

She told me sil I was mean to her and banned her from having dc alone Hmm

Sil rang me and asked why her mum was so upset and I told her about both times forgetting to pick dc up and both times letting her out without any supervision and losing her and a friends dc and if she (sil) thought that was ok in any way then she needed her head red!!

Never happened again

Stick to your guns and don't let them try and persuade you that you've over reacted because you really haven't.

And if your wife isn't on your side with this then I would be having serious concerns about where her priorities lie

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:52

@dothehokeycokey oh my gosh , there are similarities between our situations…name MiL making it look as though is the persecuted one.

the guns are well and truly stuck to..I’ve given up too much ground in the past…can’t afford to any longer

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Geppili · 10/10/2023 21:52

She doesn't want to look after your son.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:54

@Geppili I think you’re partially right …she doesn’t want to look after him in my house when I’m there.

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GuinnessBird · 10/10/2023 21:54

I'd be going nuclear if that was my MIL.

Geppili · 10/10/2023 21:55

She sounds deranged and dangerous. She just does not care.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 21:56

@GuinnessBird that may yet happen.

she is currently spinning yarns about me being mean to her etc ….problem is I have proof that I wasn’t.

I won’t interrupt her as she is making a mistake

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McIntire · 10/10/2023 21:57

I think your argument will hold more weight with your DW, BIL and family of you stop going on about James Bulger.

dothehokeycokey · 10/10/2023 21:59

@Confusedhusband87

I've had many years of having to let stuff go for the sake of dh but it all can to a head a good few years agonwhen dh and fil had a big fall out

Mil was very manipulative during and made comments to my dc about how it's not grandads fault as he's old blah blah and she was firmly put in her place again and told by me and dh to stop with the toxic behaviour (history of it and poor dh has had years of it)and they are both now kept at arms length for good reason

Life is now a lot less difficult in terms of managing their behaviour.

I hope your ds is ok I would be raging.

Just remembered another time I had a hospital appt and had asked mil
To watch dc for a couple of hours.

I got home to about three other kids from the neighbourhood in the friggin hot tub with mil in the house oblivious.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 22:00

@McIntire excuse me ? It’s a perfect example of what could happen to a child.

and I don’t keep going on about it “I mentioned it once in my original post “ and again in a reply.

sod off.

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bombastix · 10/10/2023 22:00

I would go absolutely nuclear and my child would not be alone ever again with this negligent loon.

Thelnebriati · 10/10/2023 22:03

Your post made my blood run cold. I'd never let her alone with my child again. You have no idea what she does when she's unsupervised.

justasking111 · 10/10/2023 22:03

Hoping it is senility because then the family can address it and heal a bit. Otherwise you stick to your guns there's absolutely no wiggle room now

Pockettopic · 10/10/2023 22:07

This is never ok if a parent did this social services would be coming down on them.

Gazelda · 10/10/2023 22:10

McIntire · 10/10/2023 21:57

I think your argument will hold more weight with your DW, BIL and family of you stop going on about James Bulger.

I agree. The reference to JB is sensationalist and unnecessary.

It is quite clear that what you've said happened to your 3yo is unforgivable. Your MIL should not be left to care for him again. Your DW should be reading the riot act to her and your BIL should butt out.

I hope your DS is OK and unflustered after today's events and that you are able to reassure him that he is always safe with you.

LeHamelRenard · 10/10/2023 22:11

YANBU

This is horrific - I cannot imagine how terrified your son must have been. It’s also neglect and if you’re child is left alone with MIL again, a safeguarding issue.

Hope the conversation with your wife goes well. You’re doing the right thing. Stay strong OP.

McIntire · 10/10/2023 22:12

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 22:00

@McIntire excuse me ? It’s a perfect example of what could happen to a child.

and I don’t keep going on about it “I mentioned it once in my original post “ and again in a reply.

sod off.

I’m happy to sod off but stand by my comment.

Stick to the facts as saying you’re sobbing in your garage about James Bulger is detracting from your. very valid point.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 22:13

@Gazelda I disagree - I do not think it’s sensationalist or unnecessary.

it happened - it is a testament to the sheer evil that can be visited upon a vulnerable child.

im sorry it makes you uncomfortable , but that’s the whole point.

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