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I don’t think I can forgive this

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Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 18:06

Need advice more than ever- I want to be sure I’m not overreacting.

As my wife works away, my Mother in law comes down for a couple of days to help look after our son (3 years old) when he is not in nursery- this is something we have had in place for some time.

The relationship between my MiL and myself isn’t amazing (I had raised concerns about her struggling to look after our son and she took it badly and it lead to serious family conflict but that’s a whole other box of frogs)

Earlier this week, I arrived home to find my front door wide open, MiLs car gone , and our son Standing in the drive way visibly distraught and wet.

after I confirmed that MiL was not in the house (taking my son with me) i went to load my son into My car, which was nice and warm.

At that point my MiL drove up the drive way - When I asked her why she had left my son alone and that I had found him outside , she responded that she was sorry but she had told him she would only be a few minutes.

I did some quick maths and came to the conclusion that the nearest shop is 5 mins by car but factoring in getting there , getting the items and coming back, it was 15-20 mins at minimum.

as we went inside she nonchalantly apologies for “putting him in danger “ and went up stairs.

I later confronted her about it again, in a calm manner asking for an explanation.

MiL acknowledged my concerns, again, in a very nonchalant manner and informed me that she would would be leaving and would not be returning.

when I asked, why she didn’t just take him with her she replied “He didn’t want to come”

because I have previously been in a situation where it is my word against my Mil - I recorded the conversation- mainly for two reasons 1. To show my wife the odd behaviour, as I am partially convinced this is a health related thing and 2. To have some evidence about what was said to avoid any shenanigans later down the line.

she then approach my son and spoke to him as if she would never see him again then left.

I got quite angry inside as I felt this was MiL playing a bit of psychological game.
I have spoken to my wife and she will be speaking to her mum when she gets back.

personally I feel that what has happened is a step too far, and until I’m satisfied with an explanation, I will be looking to ensure my son is not left with MiL unsupervised.

to say that I am absolutely furious is an understatement - and MiL nonchalant- stroppy response has really set my teeth to grind.

im equally angry at myself …I saw things that concerned me over a year ago but when I tried to push it , I had MiL, BiL, and even wife telling me I was overreacting and that ultimately lead to a huge family rift.

I keep thinking of little James Bulger and how his parents would have never in a million years expected to experience what happened.

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Namerequired · 10/10/2023 20:21

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:05

My neighbours ring didn’t cover it .. I did the math and concluded at a minimum it would have been about 15 mins

5 or 15 it doesn’t matter, you don’t leave a 3yr old longer than a trip to the bin. I hope your wife backs you up, but there’s no way I would agree to my child being left with mil again. If your wife does so she’s failing to safeguard your child.

MariaLuna · 10/10/2023 20:21

Being kind I would say it has clearly been a long time since she had sole charge of a small child and has forgotten what is and isn’t appropriate.

What a ridiculous thing to say. I'm 69 soon and still know that is in no way at all appropriate!

So much agism on here.

Thank god you came home on time OP.

ShouldGoToBed · 10/10/2023 20:22

I immediately thought dementia too, it’s a very weird disease and doesn’t go in a straight line, she could have made a bad decision and then realised when she got back how bad it was, and the “saying goodbye forever” scene could be because she realised after fucking up so badly that she can’t carry on looking after him, but that’s far too scary to admit out loud so she minimised it in front of you.

But you’re absolutely not overreacting, no adult of sound mind would leave a 3 year old alone to go to the shops.

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Lewiscapaldiscat · 10/10/2023 20:23

Jamie bulger wasn’t left alone his hand slipped his mums and he wandered off.

this is appalling and child neglect. If you leave him with her again you’d be party to neglect. Who in their right mind leaves a 3 year old? This is absurd.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:24

Oh don’t get me wrong , I agree 100% you should never leave a child that age on their own …not even for a couple minutes.

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Acornsoup · 10/10/2023 20:25

So your wife hasn't confronted her DM yet and it happened 'earlier' this week?

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:25

I made reference to James Bulger because of the evils that can happen to a child on their own.

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Princessbananahamock · 10/10/2023 20:25

I wonder how many other times she has done this? I feel she has.
I can imagine he was probably surprised she left him then heard the car and decided to see where she was. Kids of that age are so quick it was just so lucky he stayed by the house. Poor little lad he must have been so scared.
You are not over reacting.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:27

My wife has apparently spoken to her mum via messaging but I’m not privy to the content- but I think being in the middle of the North Sea she didn’t want to light that fuse and have it all blow back on me without her being her ….atleast that’s my take

my wife is one for doing things face to face …

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Lotus125 · 10/10/2023 20:27

omg this is horrific. I would never let anyone like that alone or with any kind of responsibility around/with my son again. No person of sound mind would do that. My son can also have a strong will at times and not do something...well id rather not go to the shop than leave him alone! His safety is #1 concern and she is posing a real safeguarding issue. If social services were involved I bet they'd tell you she can't look after him on her own anymore.

CaramelMac · 10/10/2023 20:28

I would’ve called the police on her, your child could’ve been killed in 100 different ways by her neglect.

Mmhmmn · 10/10/2023 20:28

Far more likely than being taken is that he could have wandered/ran into the road. You're all very lucky you got back when you did.

She must be mentally ill - surely. Plenty of grandparents haven't looked after a small child for decades but wouldn't consider for one second leaving them alone while they go out! My god.

MrsMiddleMother · 10/10/2023 20:28

That is awful and negligent and I'm so sorry that happened to your poor son. I would have nothing to do with her going forward and she should never ever be alone with your child again.

Hayliebells · 10/10/2023 20:29

I wouldn't rule out dementia. Early signs can be odd behaviour, and personality changes, without any accompanying confusion. But whatever the reasons, I'd certainly not be leaving her alone with your DC again! I'd also want assurances from your wife that she won't be allowing him to be left with her either.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:30

if I find out this was just pure negligence I will never speak to her again

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LavendersBlueeee · 10/10/2023 20:31

How awful! Your DS must’ve been so upset. And I can’t imagine how furious you must feel!
Did you speak to your wife over the phone about this or via message? What did she say?

Twentyfirstcenturymumma · 10/10/2023 20:31

Terrifying for you, your son, your wife, and yes, unforgivable

Solonge · 10/10/2023 20:31

What your MIL did is illegal. She put your child at risk. Having said that, from what you have said about her, I think she may have dementia. She should not ever be left in charge of your child.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:32

i did speak to both over phone and text - I think my wife is in shock right now over the whole thing

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FictionalCharacter · 10/10/2023 20:33

@Acornsoup We get it, you don’t believe a word of it, you don’t need to keep on. The OP has addressed all the holes you’re trying to pick and you’re getting tedious. Do you want the OP to suddenly admit it’s all made up?

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:33

agreed - I have read from other commenters that Alzheimer’s and dem tia can manifest in very bizarre ways that don’t become apparent until something big happens and then your hindsight kicks in and you start seeing all the little telltale signs

but she seemed very lucid and was crystal clear on what had happened

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Oysterbabe · 10/10/2023 20:34

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:27

My wife has apparently spoken to her mum via messaging but I’m not privy to the content- but I think being in the middle of the North Sea she didn’t want to light that fuse and have it all blow back on me without her being her ….atleast that’s my take

my wife is one for doing things face to face …

What did she say?

Soubriquet · 10/10/2023 20:34

fucking hell!!!

He’s 3!! He doesn’t have a choice about going somewhere if the adults responsible need to go some where.

She’s completely irresponsible and I would not be leaving my child with her again.

Bluetrews25 · 10/10/2023 20:35

Is MIL a drinker?
Perhaps she needed 'supplies' and just had to go and get them. Drinkers can be very selfish and thoughtless like this.

My MIL was drunk when we returned from an evening out, the first and last time she ever babysat for us. I never left the DCs with her after that.

Confusedhusband87 · 10/10/2023 20:36

She didn’t tell me what was said -she is home tomorrow , so once little one is away to bed ….a very serious conversation will be had.

and I will insist on knowing everything that was said between DW MiL and BiL

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