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PLEASE HELP! Home falling apart due to in-laws involvement

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2023MNU · 21/07/2023 16:18

This is going to be very long to make sure I don't miss out any details, so sorry in advance!

In many, many ways, my partner is the perfect person for me. I could tell you 1000 things I admire about him! We have been together for almost 7 years and have a daughter together, as well as his son (my stepson) who lives with us almost full-time (23 days a month), which I was very aware of upon entering the relationship back then and have no issues with - apart from the never-ending shit I endure from his legitimately barefaced and manipulative ex-wife.

We live very, VERY close to his parents, I'd say practically neighbours. They are super lovely, and bar clear language barriers preventing a deeper relationship, we have a good relationship. I genuinely love them and look up to them. I could not imagine better in-laws and am so happy my kids get to learn from and bond with them. They are always happy to help with anything and everything! But their involvement in our lives is too much for me, and I feel very unhappy.

I was always raised to be very independent and have longed for my own family unit as long as I can remember. However, as my in-laws practically raised my stepson when his biological mother chose to no longer prioritise him, and my husband had to work late hours, they stepped in. I deeply commend this and appreciate their special (almost parental) bond with my stepson. However, I have now lived with my partner for years, and I feel they try to hold on to it which interferes with our daily family routines. I would like to just express how I completely understand that it's sentimental for them upon delving into more specifics, so you don't think I'm cold or neglectful of the impact they've had in his life.

However, they keep ALL his clothes at their place, including underwear, which means I have to literally go to their house or call them every time I need clothes for him, which is of course every day may I add. They insist(!) on washing all his clothes, which is of course incredibly kind, but he sees me as his mother and yet I have to ask his grandparents for everything needed for him, which I just find incredibly weird. Also, it's just a hassle for me. I tried to look past this for the better of their relationship and to not hurt anyone's feelings. But they also want to bring food for him every day (and for me as well, even though I've expressed I don't need it), including fruits and vitamins. Even on days they've accepted me providing food for him, they'll still come with fruits etc., even if they can literally see I've already given him fruits. And then they might stay for a chat. They will knock on the door about 6 times a day to help with things - never to be intrusive, only to help with things (like drop off some water or snacks they very kindly decided to get for me) but it SO feels like it nonetheless! Literally, they are in and out of the house at least 3 times a day, sometimes MIL is comfortable walking into our bedroom to get something - I don't know if this is just a personal thing, but that's just a big no no/invasion of privacy for me! They are always in our garden (they have grown herbs there and take care of it daily + need it for their cooking, which preserves our garden nicely, but also means they're always there). They're part of EVERYTHING, even a simple pool-day in the garden, where they will without fail always face-time or invite other family members to join, unless it's out and about in town. And of course, I don't want to be the bitch saying "no, uninvite your family members!" They will look inside our windows as well from time to time to check on the kids. Basically, they're always there. And despite how lovely they are, I know I can't live a life like this.

I understand they will always hold a maternal/paternal role to him, but I feel it's time to "let go", as I feel it's interfering with the way I envisioned I was going to lead a family life. I so crave the feeling of just being a family unit - parents and kids - without the grandparents. Don't get me wrong, I think it's GREAT they've got a strong bond, but this is just too much for me. I don't WANT all the help, and ultimately don't need it. I very much take pride in independence and feel I'm living like a child, depending on them for everything.

I've told them a million times to please not worry and that I'm happy to take care of everything, but they never listen. Either they 1) think I'm just saying it to be nice, 2) perhaps to insist on helping out as he's not my biological child, 3) as they're holding onto the past. All understandable and from a good place. But I can't live like this. So for a long time, I've started "dumping" him on them as I just find it easier than having them in and out all day as I just get in a bad mood which, sadly, reflects on my parenting (which if of course my own shortcoming, I just can't help it).

I'm sure many of you are wondering what my partner is saying. Basically, due to cultural differences and having grown up around more communal family values (which there's NOTHING wrong with, just not something I want for myself), he's on their side. And I'm happy to compromise on some things, but it doesn't seem like that can happen without causing havoc. I've talked to him many times and he says not to worry, they're only doing it to help my life be easier, and that it's good for them to have something to do (for example, clean his clothes and choose outfits, outfits I oftentimes hate btw but that's besides the point). I'm always met with the reminder of THEIR INTENTIONS, which in my opinion is just dismissive of my feelings because I never dispute their lovely intentions, but I just don't want that kind of family dynamic. In heated arguments, he's stated it's good we have them because I'm not "the kind of mother who just gets things done", which is so deeply hurtful because I know I am, I've just decided to let them help with stepson a lot because I AM a mother who wishes to get things done myself and can't stand the in-and-out of house policy, i.e. why I now ask for their help constantly. And that's probably my own fault, making it seem like I'm over-reliant on them, when really, I wish the opposite. Also, I find it offensive as I literally have taken on a full child as my own and have dealt with so much shit because of the biological mum. Not that he doesn't appreciate my help, but in me taking on that role, and stepson loving me so much, I feel I should be able to "act as" his mum and not have to rely on grandparents for that. No?

I entered into this relationship wanting a family unit, which I made clear knowing how closeby his parents live, i.e. a life very much integrated with his parents', however, with clear home boundaries. He, however, also insists he made it clear how integrated he wanted our lives to be with his parents, which I simply refuse to believe because I would never have wanted to live like this. I never expected them to be around so much. Maybe we misunderstood each other entirely back then. Maybe I was naive. So we've simply managed to literally not understand each other's family wishes, and now we're here, unhappy with kids, which just breaks me for the kids' sake. I miss privacy and I'm unhappy. But I also don't want to imagine the heartache a split would cause the kids, making me feel like I should just stay grateful for their help, have happy kids, and keep my mouth.

I'd literally rather all of you say I'm an ungrateful cow and reflect on that, than keep this all to myself. I need some kind of advice or personal opinions from people I don't know, to ensure I get unbiased viewpoints.

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WannabeMathematician · 21/07/2023 16:30

No advice but perhaps get this moved to the relationships board? You might have more responses there.

2023MNU · 21/07/2023 16:39

@WannabeMathematician thank you!!

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TakeMe2Insanity · 21/07/2023 16:43

Are the in laws asian?

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 21/07/2023 16:44

The clothes thing is utterly ridiculous. What would happen if you just didn’t give them back? If you washed them and put them away? Or bought more so you didn’t have to ask?

2023MNU · 21/07/2023 16:52

@TakeMe2Insanity They are!

@PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister Ugh I can't tell you how nice it is to hear someone agree with that. Well, MIL walks into stepson's room and grabs it before I could even entertain that thought if I'm honest, so I wouldn't know

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cocksstrideintheevening · 21/07/2023 16:53

My mil in law was like this / still is a bit.

She was a fantastic help when DTs were small, started taking laundry and doing it at theirs. This then moved onto changing their beds and washing towels. Then she started doing our bed. I was NOT happy about this but let it go for a while.

Problem was that I would be looking for a specific item of clothing and she would have it or we would need to change the beds because of sickness or spillages, whatever, and she would have all the spare bedding.

She would come round with mountains of food, we would already have food planned for the week, not enough space to freeze what she brought round and it would end up going in the bin. Complete waste of food. Also tons of sweets / chocolate think four multipacks of dairy milk, three large bags of haribo a couple of times a week.

Toiletries - anyone want 6 bottles of listerine and 4 shampoos and conditioners a week?

She also started taking it on herself to let herself in when we were at work to collect washing.

It pissed of DH too and he complained and asked her to stop but it didnt get anywhere.

In the end I had to give it to her very straight that it had to stop. It didn't go down well but she has at least stopped with the washing. The food and toiletries still come round but I hand them back to her when she leaves. She still doesn't get it.

I KNOW she was doing it to help but it wasn't a help, it was a pain in the fucking arse and an invasion of privacy. Plus DTs are in bunks and she would do the beds and then whinge, complain, moan nad groan about how hard it is to change a top bunk. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IT THEN?

That turned into a rant...anyway OP you have my sympathies I totally get it.

Ilikewinter · 21/07/2023 16:57

Errmmm well I confess to skim ready your post OP! .... but ive read enough detail to know that your MIL is wayyyy to involved in your life and the whole taking the clothes thing is just wierd and controlling. I have to take my hat off to you for just going along with all this though, I would have lost my shit a very long time ago! Change the locks and shut your curtains.... or move 🤣🤣

Stratocumulus · 21/07/2023 17:05

You know what, I think I’d just let them get on with their version of “parenting” your step son.
Let them do it their way.
Slowly relinquish your responsibility and focus on your younger child. Let him sleep over there etc. They seem to want to take him over, so let them if he’s happy there.

Try it. See how it goes.

As for everything else, just lock yr front door & don’t answer it! You were in the shower/bath/using the loo.

Garden visits are a bit harder to control but maybe others will come along with ideas about that. I’d probably just shut myself in the house & let them get on with that too. You can only be drawn into anything as much as you allow anyone to do so.

I really feel for you. I would hate it too. It’s so intrusive.

FootSoreandFamcyFree · 21/07/2023 17:05

I couldn’t live like that and whilst you say you don’t want to split I think you need to make it clear that that will be the eventual outcome if things don’t change.
I wonder whether they were the same with his x and if that is why she left?

Aquamarine1029 · 21/07/2023 17:06

I'm sorry to say you made a very poor decision in who you chose for a husband. Your happiness is very low on his list of priorities, and he is shockingly disrespectful to you. He doesn't consider your needs at all. I know I wouldn't live like this, and I definitely wouldn't share my life with a man who thinks so little of me.

jazzybelle · 21/07/2023 17:15

It's mad to keep the stepson's clothes at their house. How does SS manage? Does have to go round for clean clothes in advance? Or does he pop round in his PJs every morning?!

2023MNU · 21/07/2023 17:28

Thank you so, so much everyone for your input. I appreciate it so much, honestly! I know it was a long one. Lots of food for thought!

@jazzybelle Either me or my partner calls them/stop by their house every day before or after school to get some clothes ready. Sometimes I forget, and he'll literally just wait and run around the house naked, waiting for them to bring it

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LilySavage · 21/07/2023 17:29

The clothes things is absolutely mad? What would happen if you went and picked up a few items of extra clothes each time and started moving the stockpile over that way?

ChubbyMorticia · 21/07/2023 17:41

Intention doesn’t negate impact.

“Either I’m parenting your children with you, or your mother is. I’m not going to tolerate being usurped in my home anymore.”

ChubbyMorticia · 21/07/2023 17:43

And make moving non negotiable.

FootSoreandFamcyFree · 21/07/2023 17:48

LilySavage · 21/07/2023 17:29

The clothes things is absolutely mad? What would happen if you went and picked up a few items of extra clothes each time and started moving the stockpile over that way?

This woman is happy walking into their house to get washing, I presume she would just take the stockpile.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 21/07/2023 17:50

Why is your husband not dealing with this? They are his parents. As PP suggested , step back from looking after DSS a little.

Totaly · 21/07/2023 17:58

Personally I’d move house -

You can’t keep doing this.

In fact I’d go one step further and say you’re moving and he can come too if he wants to.

Even half an hour would make a big difference to your lives.

Does it affect your younger child?

2023MNU · 21/07/2023 18:00

@LilySavage Yes, @FootSoreandFamcyFree is absolutely right. I have tried saying it would be way easier for everyone if we bought a closet to store all his clothes, however, she said "no don't worry, I can easily do it". Don't know where to go from a comment like that really as I also don't want to hurt her feelings or seem territorial of her grandson

@Wishihadanalgorithm He thinks it's nice for them to have something to do as they're older. I also don't know how to explain why I don't find it normal because to me it's SO self-explanatory that I have no idea how to even word it. Appreciate your advice, thank you.

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strawberry2017 · 21/07/2023 18:05

Tbh I'd just buy more clothes to be honest or if that doesn't work then your husband needs to put his foot down. Oh and change the locks!

SmirnoffIceIsNice · 21/07/2023 18:17

I don't understand the clothes thing. I can understand that the ILs would have had SS's clothes when they were raising him, but surely in the years since you've moved in together he's grown and you and your DP have bought more clothes? What do the ILs have them? Are they taking them from your house? If so, why are you allowing this?

I couldn't live like this and if your DP is not putting your feelings first then you should reconsider the relationship as it's not going to change.

BiddyBee · 21/07/2023 18:20

Baffles me when posters start these threads saying "they're so wonderful, I love them, I'm lucky to have them". OP they're not wonderful, I doubt very much you love them and you're far from lucky - you're suffocated, overridden and disrespected.

I could not live like this, it's so far from normal. I need my privacy and to make decisions in my own home! Keeping the boy's clothes at their house? It's ridiculous. Your husband I'm sad to say, has no respect for you. You're a grown woman, a mother, a wife, and you're being treated like a child.

I can't see an easy way out of this. Is there any chance of moving away? How old are your inlaws?

2023MNU · 21/07/2023 18:29

@SmirnoffIceIsNice Understand your confusion entirely. I have bought more clothes for him many times, but it's just kind of "assumed" that that clothes will go to his clothes at my in-laws. And so I've just let that happen to not hurt anyone or affect the family dynamic. Thanks for your comment

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Batalax · 21/07/2023 18:34

I certainly couldn’t live like this. They aren’t actually that nice or they would actually listen to you and not keep trampling all over your boundaries.

You do have a dh problem though. I’d go nuclear and I don’t think my marriage would survive if he didn’t sort it. The clothes thing alone is just ridiculous.

Basically you are being far too nice.

jazzybelle · 21/07/2023 18:34

It's just ridiculous that he lives in one house and his clothes are kept at another house. Just have a chat and arrange for his clothes to be kept where he actually lives. There's no need for anyone to take offence. It's just common sense.