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[SuperGrrrl]

Here we go- new thread so we don't put off any newbies!

Hello Runtus- join us here

Sorry, taliac they were your tips . And it's bella23. (Sorry trying to post with DD climbing on my head...)

Having a lovely day today (bet thats jinxed it!), only had to get up once for dd2 last night, and dd1 slept through until 5.30.Sleep does fantastic things doesn't it, i've had so much more energy today, so we've done,;painting, made flapjacks, drawing, sticking, dd1 helped make lunch and now we're on our way to the swings (via the library with 2 sleeping babies) and I haven't felt irritated or shouted once - it's a miracle. Poor dh has just come home from work, because he feels so poorly, so he's not having such a good day.

Sorry your toddler group was so crappy, Supergrrrl. I am still sussing out the many hundreds that seem to be on around here (we did one a day the week before half term!), so far people seem to be pretty friendly, and I have been offered lots of tea - which is very much a good thing. I went on a thread last night which someone had written about unfriendly baby groups, and the bitchyness you get there. I always feel as though my kids are the most uncoordinated, my hair is the most unkempt and I seem to develop a form of tourettes where inappropriate-ness just jumps out of my mouth!

Hello - mine have just stopped being 2 under 2 - ds celebrated his 2nd birthday last week! It's already getting easier - not because ds isn't under 2 any more () but because dd (nearly 5 months) is getting easier and ds is starting to be able to entertain her. Also only got up once last night with dd, hazeyjane - you're dead right about sleep.
And re toddler groups - I second hazeyjane - have only good things to say about them, and I am by far the messiest, latest, most disorganised mum and both my babies' noses are permanantly running AND I never have tissues. How embarassing is it when another mum wipes your child's nose?!
We have P&T pushchair too. I know they're not cheap but it's the best best best thing I have ever bought by a long way. For the first couple of months, dd slept in the cocoon all the time. It folds up, it fits down narrow pavements. Also - and this was something I hadn't thought of - dc2 is tucked away, so all the grannies coo over dc1 and don't even notice dc2, so no jealousy!
Does anyone else manage to do housework? My house is so embarassing I can't invite people round...

housework, Phlossie? What's that? I've never heard of it before not even sure that I can pronounce it is it a new idea?

Welcome, btw

Glad your day is better, Hazeyjane.

And, talking about sleep, did any of you get woken by the earthquake the other night (that's if you're in the right part of the country for it)? -- I slept through everything but DP saying 'what the fck is that*?' at which point I grunted something, rolled over and went back to sleep... DP has been made 'disaster co-ordinator' for this house in future as I'm obviously not up to the task...

No. Nothing wakes me except..... waaaaaaah.

I've heard that housework has something to do with hoovers and sponges and maybe something called detergent? It's what I should be doing now both my darlings are asleep... but bugger that!

I'm not really into this whole housework thing either. DS hates the hoover, so i can't do that if he is anywhere in the house, and i never seem to get motivated to do anything else!

I can sympathise re the playgroup thing, they are really strange places aren't they. The first one i ever went to was like you describe Supergrrrl, no one spoke to me and everyone disappeared off for tea and I just felt horrible. Never went back there. Luckily I found a couple where the staff and most other mums are prettty nice, plus I often go with a friend which helps.

P&T got delivered yesterday, but missing a couple of bits needed to put it fully together Rang mothercare this morning who said they'd contact P&T and they'd probably post the bits to me. Probably wtf??? Can tell I am going to have to chase it up about 10 times. Am going to set it up tonight when DH comes home hopefully, but then will most likely have to take apart to get mudguards on once bits arrive.

Just a general question for everyone. What, if anything, did you tell your DC to prepare them for the arrival of the new baby? DS is only 15 months so I haven't really said much apart from giving him a baby doll, and mentioning babies and big brothers occasionally........

I told ds there was a baby in mummy's tummy - but only because I thought I should say something. And I read him a book called 'my new baby.' Anyway, when dd came along we didn't take him to hospital or anything, we just bought the baby home while he was having his nap (meant it to be like that). When he woke up he was chuffed to see me, and a bit freaked by dd - he wouldn't touch her or go near her. But he got more confident and after a week or so it was just normal.
That might sound a bit weird, but my thinking was that he was too young to understand and also so young that loads of things were still new experiences, iyswim. So by just acting like it was a totally normal, unremarkable thing, he accepted it as such. I'm not saying it was completely smooth, but it was no more difficult that getting him to wear new shoes!

We didn't say much at all when I was pg with DS (DD was 17m when he turned up). Figured she didn't understand anyway although she got to see a lot of babies as I was in and out of hospital for the last 10 weeks and antenatal is the same as postnatal in our area. Our childminder was also accidentally helpful in that she got a baby (7m) to look after before DS was born (who also happened to scream a lot which DS doesn't). We did take her to hospital though (I'd had a cs and was staying in for 4 days), and did all the things other useful threads on here advise about me not holding baby when she met him, acting normal etc etc It was really sweet: she offered him some juice

Our house was decorated and cleaned before we moved in (it comes as part of dh's job), so I'm thinking that could be housework sorted for me for the next few, days/weeks/months?
I seem to do most of my cleaning with baby wipes, and we have got a mini hoover we used to use for work, that dd1 uses when I hoover (which is rare, believe me) - we make an absolute racket, but for some reason dd2 loves it and sits bouncing up and down as if its the best dance music ever.

Kaybee, dd1 was 14 months old when dd2 was born, we also got her a doll and made sure when she came to hospital dd2 was in the crib. Before dd2 came we always talked about dd2 as dd1's baby and dd1's baby sister (something I heard was a good idea at an nct class), and called her by her name, which we had already chosen.

taking them both to town on the bus- DS1 will be walking with a wrist strap on, DS2 in pushchair. Not taken them further than park or playgroup together before...

quite excited to see DS1 sitting in bus seat watching the cars! only meeting friend for coffee then grabbing some nappies, so shouldn't be too awful.

i hope!

Hello ladies!

Internet been down for over 10 days so not a chance of catching up! Found new thread though....

Cazwa will give you a shout if coming to the coast (saw your message on end of last thread). 7 stories is great - didn't try in half term though!!!!

Chaotica you weren't well last time I was here - hope all back to normal now!

Catch you all soon....x

Re telling older child about baby - we told DD1 (16m age difference) that Mummy would go into hospital soon, and would be away for a few days but DD1 could come visit (which she did and it was fine) and then after that there would be a baby that would come and live with us, and this would be DD1's baby sister. We'd also chosen a name so we referred to DD2 by name for a while before she was born. ie - this is where baby dd2 will sleep when she comes and lives with us - etc etc..

DD2 is now 3 months nearly and DD1 is really good with her. It was a slightly tricky start - DD1 was pretty freaked out by an actual tiny baby - but it wasnt long before she was trying to give DD2 hugs and kisses. Rather scary, as DD1's affection can be a little rough but its worked well in the long run..

Well the patter of tiny feet upstairs has gone silent, so maybe DD is actually napping... ...but not before I heard some bangs and stamping and the peeling of one of the stickers off the wall (again)...

...Naptimes have become a whole new experience for DD since the arrival of the Big Bed, although things seems to be going OK, in fact DD loves the freedom of not being trapped in the cot and having a bedroom to play in. We put a gate on her door though, to stop her roaming further and so far we've only had a couple of earlier mornings and a lot of sudocrem on the teddies (oops shouldn't have left that lying around). Perhaps this could work after all? That means DS can have the proper cot this weekend as well maybe he'll sleep a bit better then.

Just went for a walk in the wind and the rain (couldn't avoid it really -- it wasn't rainy when we left and I could hardly cancel once we were all the car and ducks had been mentioned). The DCs will be tough, goddamit . Besides, ducks like rain. And, it seems, toddlers don't mind it at all if they're wrapped up and occasionally bribed with cake .

Hope your expedition went well, Supergrrrl. I avoid crowded places with the two of them (wimp!), although I've bought a wrist strap I haven't tried it. I'm experimenting with the 'stay where you can see mummy' technique with DD at the mo' and it seemed to work (ie they have no idea whether you can see them but can manage them being able to see you which is often the same).

And hello, Alicet. Glad you found us again. (I'm fine again now, thanks. But the dc's have colds (so what's new?).)

hi alicet.

trip went ok- but difficult steering pushchair on and off bus with one hand. When we arrived i kept getting stuck getting off, so a nice man hopped on and took DS1s hand and led him off for me. Rain didn't make it that nice, and my friend wasn't v chatty and a bit down too.

still, went out and talked to people, and it was experience.

Bought pull ups for DS1 too- starting potty training tomorrow

I don't know how you manage without a double pushchair Supergrrl, the times when we've had a puncture and I had to go out with slings, backpacks etc I end up with such a bad back that I start walking like Grandpa Simpson - you deserve a medal! I can't drive either, and walk miles because I'm too much of a coward to go on public transport with both of them (especially after dd1 had a huge freak out on a bus when she was about a year old) - so you actually deserve 2 medals Good luck with potty training - can't even bear to think about it at the moment (God I am so chicken!).

Went to toddler group yesterday and it was really unfriendly!, hardly anyone spoke to me, and there were a couple of mums that made me feel really unwelcome - I think i'll give this one a miss in the future!

We have great succes with the Little Life backpack (which has a resstraint attched, which you can remove) I think dd1 thinks it makes her like Dora the Explorer!

thanks hazey! we do have a double too, but it won't fit on the bus, and if i'd walked it would have been 30 mins each way in the rain!

i'll have to look for that backpack you mentioned, sounds good.

just bought back pack- looks lush! got him the ladybird one

Have just had breakfast in bed, with daffodils and 'Dusty in Memphis' drowning out lo's screaming downstairs with dh - bliss! HAPPY MOTHERS DAY EVERYONE

lucky you

i'm currently enjoying my apparent lie in

am downstairs with both kids, while DH sleeps because he drank too much last night. i hardly slept all night, and DH had cheek to mumble annoyance that DS2 disturbed him about 5am, laughing in bed. he been flipping snoring all night

all i asked for was an extra hour in bed and a bagel for breakfast. i may make my own now, partly to make him feel worse about being crap.

Thanks for all your tips about telling older child about the baby everyone

Sorry to hear your Mother's Day didn't start well Supergrrrl, hope your DH made up for it later???

I was very lucky, got brekkie in bed, though DS wanted to try all my food and climb on me while I tried to eat . We went to DH's parents for lunch and they spent most of the day entertaining DS so I feel quite relaxed.

Managed to get some seep last night for a change. DS had woken in the night both previous nights and wouldn't go back to sleep for over an hour. I couldn't sleep either so felt a bit like a zombie - I guess I am in training for when DS2 turns up

nope, made my own breakfast. pointless, s**tty day.

Sorry to hear your mothers' day was crap, Supergrrrl.

Probably won't make you feel better but we don't do mothers day at all round here (playgroup and the cm did give DD and DS some bits for me, so I have 2 daffodils and a small plant...), but I never marked mothers' day with my own mum so it would be odd for me expect anything. She's the kind of feminist who says "I'm not your mother, if you're lucky I might be your friend..." (Besides, my sister once bought mum a card and present and then mum told her to B*gger off the night before -- so dad got it on fathers' day instead... ) But to those of you who did get a lie in and breakfast in bed, I am (No really, I'm happy for you ).

Off to m&b group with DS again today -- haven't been for a while because one or other of us has been ill... (Hope a clique hasn't formed in my absence )

Sorry your Mothers day was crap Supergrrl, but happy you got the Ladybird backpack - they had sold out of that one when I got ours.

Chaotica - My mum can be super feminist when it suits her, but if I forgot Mothers Day she would go crazy, I think she thinks that it is HER day, and no-one elses .

hi can i join? ds is 7 months and no2 due start nov so will be 15 or 16 months between them.

first question - what double buggy would you go for? i assume it is essential to get one?

do i need to keep my single - a lovely jane slalom 3 in 1 travel system that i spent £600 on inc all the various bits!! or should i sell it?