The ALL NEW 2 Under Two Thread..Follow me ladies!

[SuperGrrrl]

Here we go- new thread so we don't put off any newbies!

Hello Runtus- join us here

oh Kaybee- hope you're feeling better.

i worked out DS2 slept 9 hrs in the last 24hrs. he's not normal! doesn't sleep in the day either.

put him down in his cot 6.45pm, he slept for 2.5hrs, fed him, then slept 1 hr 20mins. DS1 woke too screaming, so gave him milk with medised, the DS2 was up. DH snoring like hell (he has the cold now)In the end DH went downstairs to sleep at midnight, and i was so tired i brought DS2 into bed.

have a driving lesson at 9am, have had 4/5 hrs broken sleep

hi justabout -- welcome back!

Hope you and your ds are feeling better, Kaybee.

And that you didn't crash, faster...

didn't crash, but i am kicking roundabouts asses at the moment

having a lazy day now what with the weather being so grim. Might clean the kitchen, check some soup on and have a G & T...

Hi, much better today thanks

Glad your lesson went well Faster, despite the lack of sleep.

hi cazwa, tbh was waiting til dd slept through , but when she was 8 weeks old we had put both to bed when realised needed to pack our suitcases (dp working away for 10days, i was going to my mums) and dd in ourbedroom, so we carried moses basket into ds room and quickly ran out and shut the door!

spent the next 7nights at my mums which was AWFUL! me and dcs in same room, they were v.unsettled cos in a strange place and kept waking each other up, however, got used to ignoring the other one crying, and since we got back (3wks ago i think) been no problems at all. they both have daytime naps in bedroom- ds still has 2hrs in pm, adn they go down and get up a different times, i just have to go in and out quickly and quietly, so they stir but dont wake up IYSWIM.

for me, im strict about bedtime, what time, settling self to sleep, in own bed etc, but the bits that 'disapear' (like waking in the night) im flexible- n easy life i think!

oh and their room is TINY i was looking at it today wondering what to do when dd outgrows her moses basket, im not sure we could even fit 2cots in there! do you all plan to put your dcs in together or will they have separate bedrooms?

we have 2 bedrooms, but will convert the attic once they are in primary school. DS1s room is an average size- will take a bunk bed, wardrobe and drawers when need be.

i have wondered about just putting them in together regardless. DS1 sleeps through his noise in the day when he naps

Rosiejoy Your post is actually making me feel a little daft for not putting them in together as DS and DD slept fine at my mum's when we all had to share a room. I guess that DS still wakes for a feed though (but maybe I'm just being too cautious he might not wake DD at all)...

(We actually have 3 bedrooms but if we let them have a room each at this stage, DP and I have nowhere for our rubbish (= lives) to go...) (and DD's bedroom is easily big enough for two)

i might try it next weekend for a couple of nights, and if it goes tits up, go back to having him in our room

rosie - you have made it sound v easy!
i am planning on waiting a bit, both boys have their own room for now and a spare room for gparents.
thinking of maybe waiting til pg no3 (!), then moving boys into spare room together, using ds1's room as the future spare room and baby into baby / ds2's room.
dunno if that will make it harder as ds1 will be older. but i like him having his room for afternoon naps and maybe future 'quiet times' without ds2 around.
hmmm, will see what you all do, lol.

ds1 slept 7-3.30 last night, hooray! didn't settle until 5 after another feed but hey, baby steps...

right, glass of wine and dinner time

Well we've had 3 nights in a row of just about sleeping through, and tandem daytime afternoon naps, so I might give sharing a room a shot soon.

Faster, that sounds like a night from hell. Hope youve had better since.

BRistols - Mixed feeding, it seems to be going really well so far. Id always planned to BF for about 6mo with this one, but I got to the week before last when DS was turning 5mo when I had him weighed and he'd only put on 1.5lb in 10 weeks so I introduced FFs a bit quicker than planned. Lo and behold hes put on a 1lb this week. My supply went up the swanny, think its cos I havent concentrated enough on him finishing feeds properly, trying to multitask and entertain DD. That would be my word of caution to anyone planning on BF with a little one, get some time to feed on your own when possible, or at least pay attention to feeding times. I now get DH to play with DD while Im feeding DS and not next to his head shouting!

I dont express, I cant be bothered, and find my boobs dont fill up too much, just enough to make the next feed feel a slight relief. Im basically doing 2-3 FFs a day and the rest BF which can range from 3-5+ if hes up in the night. With my DD I stopped around this time as I was back at work, so Im finding it nice this time with the slightly longer maternity leave to continue it a bit more.
Already planning ordering a case of wine to celebrate when I finish though!

so jealous of all this sleeping through/almost sleeping through.

DS2 went down about 6.15pm, slept in his cot for about 2hrs, then i was going to bed anyway and DH sleeping downstairs, so put him in bed with me. Didn't need to change him, can vaguely recall feeding him couple of times. Up this morning at 5.15...although i'm telling myself it's 6.15 now and drinking coffee.

the trouble is, when you're already knackered, sticking to using the cot though it takes longer to settle him seems too much trouble. Where as our bed is lovely and warm and quick.

oh well. Roast dinner and painting my stairs today. Again. I hate paint jobs that require 2/3 coats.

Hahahahahahaah I was so cocky in my last thread and ow Ive paid for it. DS up at 2am for feed, then eldest up at 4am, eventually gave up settling her at 530 and got up. Now both kids are really tired and whingey and I have snapped at daughter making her cry.

Faster, it sadly makes me feel better to know you are up too.

Might inflict myself on parents this morning while DH sleeps, then got friends coming round this afternoon.

hello, can i come in? my dd is nearly 6 months old, and no.2 is due on november. argh!

Hi everyone, hope you are all powering through.

Cazwa all I am saying is from about 12 weeks a baby can sleep through without needing another feed from 1100 til 0500 at least at night. This is to say that all the calories needed are given during 0700-1900. But, the longer a feed is offered in the night, the more your little one will wake for it. I mean, if your husband started getting up in the night to prepare you hot tasty snacks you'd probably find yourself waking up for them! Whereas, a few (very hard) nights of sugar water mean your little one will start not bothering to wake up. I know it sounds easy, and if it wasn't for my trusty Baby Whisperer book giving me the confidance, I'd have never had to bottle (ha ha no pun intended) to try it.

And Rosie I understand what you mean about the hard parts that don't last long but my neice's baby was still waking for a feed up to her being 2! So, for me with DD2, I'm just not willing to risk it. They already self-settle, already on a routine and feed without a hitch and nap well in the day. (which I put down to a good swaddle and Miracle blanket and of course the baby Whisperer book) and I'm just hoping she stays this good (hopeful emoticon)

hi all

well my (vain) hope that the clocks changing would help ds1 with his early rising...went out the window when he woke up at 5 (6 BST), tbh i cried
that's the earliest he's woken. i'm so hoping that, having woken him from his nap this afternoon and kept him until nearly 8pm, he WILL sleep later tomorrow.
otherwise i'm going to try the wake to sleep method, anyone done this???? will have to read up about it as i don't really know what's involved, but figure i will be up about 3/3.30 feeding ds2 anyway.

ds2 on the other hand sleeping beautifully 7-3.30, fed, back to sleep until 6.30 (7.30 BST), lover-ly

hi mycat... you're in the right place

cazwa - hope sleep gets back on track for yours and you can put them in together soon. waiting eagerly to hear how you all do
i can't be bothered to express either, have some emergency milk in the freezer but as dh is away lots with work i have to feed ds2 most of the time, might as well just do it myself, easier, less faffing, i'm so lazy!and re night feeds, ds1 slept through from 10 wks () but then started waking again at 7mo when we were both ill, i fed him at night until i thought, hang on, he doesn't need this (once we were both well again this is), and did the controlled crying/pick up put down thing. within a couple of nights we were back to proper sleep again. tho i will say when bfding it's easier said than done as your boobs respond to the crying even if you want to be tough

welcome back justabout

gemy - i'm hoping ds2 will drop the last night feed soon and yes then i will be tough on night waking, not even water, just a cuddle and back down again. i love my sleep too much to mess about

right, dh just brought me some ben and jerry's, yum

Cazwa - Thanks for the info on your drop in supply. I'm worried that that's happening to me. DS2 really fussing at the breast this evening as if there was not milk there. I'm probably guilty of not making sure he has finished a feed properly. It's so difficult with a LO running around, isn't it? And at night I find it so difficult because I'm soooo tired!

Had a good night last night, though. DS2 in bed at 7. Woke for feed at 2(!) and then slept til 7 (6 old time.) Not bad for six weeks although I'm not counting my chickens yet!

My DSes have separate rooms so no worries about sharing here. Unless we go for number 3...

Think I might wander to the library tomorrow and check out the Baby Whisperer book. It sounds as though lots of you have had success with it. I could do with getting a bit of routine in the day now.

another 2 hr sleep in his cot before i just went to bed and took him with me- sigh! Have decided tonight that i'm going to offer him only diluted bottles at night now, and not put him in our bed... Wish me luck...i must be strong!!

can't wait for Fri- my friend has offered to come over for a couple of hours so DH and i can go out for a drink together. we haven't spent any time away from the kids for over a month now.

DS1 being very challenging with his behaviour at the moment- smacked his brother loads yesterday, and rubbed his tea down the wall and behind the radiator Give me strength!

Faster do you think that might be too much at once? The diluted bottles and sleeping in cot? Not that I'm all for it I am! But, maybe if you tackle one thing at a time, the transition will be easier for him (and there won't be a chance he may start associating being hungry with being in his cot which you don't want obviously)

The clocks thing is working well for us! DD2 slept 7pm til 0630 (but was not as hungry as usual for dreamfeed)

Hope you enjoy your night out faster. We have an annual ball we always attend on saturday night so we setting off Friday, returning sunday. Yep ladies, 2 nights away from children!!! But, I know when it comes to the crunch, I'll probobley end up crying when we depart!

Still have not gotten around to attending that M_T group. But, did join the doctors today and that was an effort in itself! They have those narrow double doors that are really hard to open. So, not only do you have to try and get them both open at the same time and get buggy through, but they keep springing back and nearly launching you back out to the pavement! Next time I go, I am going to ask to see the practice manager and request automatic doors!

i am so full of it- he slept 2.5hrs in his cot, then, surprise surprise, i took the warm, smiling creature straight to bed. He's too lovely. Perhaps i should have had an uglier baby

have put a chair in our room though, for feeding him in that, then putting him in his bed.

AND, shoot me down should you wish, but he ate avocado and brocolli yesterday (BLW) DH wasn't convinced, and i gave him the brocolli more to play with as he's got v distressed watching us eat. He demolished it! Def ready for BLW IMO.

oh well- probably park today if it dries up, a walk if not. Might take DS1 for a haircut too- desperate to cultivate a little mohawk on him

hope everyone slept well- DS2 woke and breastfed every 2hrs.

Nearly did an april fool about sleeping all night with no interruptions... But (of course) was so bleary-eyed first thing I'd managed to pour coffee into DD's sippy cup before I realised I might still be a little sleepy...

Turns out DS has an ear infection -- so sorting that out might sort out the night waking (bad mummy thinking that the poor little guy was just being a pain ). So no hardcore sleep training around here for a little while until he proves that he really is a pain...

Have to sign him up with the CM today so I can get ready to go back to work part time -- he really is growing up fast! (Soon I'll really know the meaning of tiredness; once I'm a working mother of 2 under 2 )

BTW Does anyone else have a toddler who runs away all the time? What do you do? (Just getting to this phase with DD.)

Two tests of Mummy's nerves, Chaotica: I lost my ds in the IKEA cafe the other day. He ran off, and in the time it took me to get off my stool and grab the pushchair (sleeping baby inside) he had vanished. Five minutes and two security guards with walkie-talkies later, he reappeared. Rascal. I aged 3 years.
Last week he strolled off down the road while I put dd in the car. I did the whole, 'bye-bye then' thing - even switched on the car engine, which usually works. But he kept on trotting. In no time he was beyond a comfortable distance away, so I stuck the car in reverse and drove backwards very fast down the road! I hadn't even strapped dd's car seat in
Mummy-0, ds-2.

Am feeling a bit as have decided to wind down bf and switch to ff. DS2 has never really latched on properly and I have been presevering. Have had bleeding, cracked nipples, mastitis, DS vomiting blood sue to swallowing so much (eugh) and now my supply has gone right down. I've come to the conclusion that he's not feeding efficiently and so my production has slowed down. He's so unsettled. I fed him from both boobs earlier and he was still fussing so I gave him some formula to top up. He took 3oz!

I really wanted to feed him for the same amount of time as DS1 (18 weeks) but there's just no way.

Had a dreadful night with him last night. Only got 4 hours sleep so am off to bed very shortly!

PS. Yes, I have a toddler that runs off everywhere too. Have a little backpack with a 'lead' (as DH calls it) to keep him nearby. You have to have eyes everywhere, don't you??