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Baby not napping well and I’m getting so angry

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bleachblondemom · 25/02/2021 14:53

Long post but I would really appreciate you taking the time to read it.

My son is 10 weeks old and his day time naps are always hit-and-miss, but have been really bad this week. I’m getting so angry and frustrated with him, my temper is out of control. I try not to direct it at him but he is obviously aware of me getting angry and shouting and it makes him cry, then I feel like a total monster. Sometimes I have to scream into a pillow. Sometimes I just leave the room and sob.
He sleeps brilliant in his crib at night but refuses to sleep in their during the day. So there’s two ways I can get him to sleep:

The sling- for the first few weeks of me buying a sling he would nap in it for hours. I could sit watching tv, make & eat lunch, do housework etc. But now I have to be constantly moving or he starts to wake up. I can sit down for 5-10 minutes before he stirs, and if I don’t move fast enough he starts to cry. Sometimes I can resettle him, sometimes it’s game over. And some days he just won’t sleep in it for longer than 30-60 minutes despite me moving constantly. My back, shoulders, legs and feet are killing me.

The pram- he has to be walked for minimum an hour to get him into a deep sleep, then I can bring him home and leave him in the hall. Sometimes he stays asleep for hours. Sometimes his eyes snap open as soon as we get to the front door. This week, I have taken him out every day and each time he has slept for half an hour then woke up. I have walked until I’m exhausted and he won’t go back to sleep, despite him yawning and his eyes drooping. He just refuses to.

I used to be able to get him to nap for about an hour on my bed in the mornings so I could nap too but he hasn’t done this for weeks.

I am so so tired of having to work so hard just to get him to nap. My whole day revolves around it. I can’t take it anymore. Every day I say to myself, I’m not going to get angry again, I will just take a deep breath and calm myself down. Then the next day comes and I have another breakdown.

I love him so much and it hurts me that I’m missing out on playing with him and interacting with him because I’m so focused on getting him to sleep, or I’m in another room crying. Sometimes I feel like I hate him and he hates me too because I’m horrible to him.

I know sleep training is an option but I’m dreading it. I can’t trust myself to stay calm and not getting angry or upset. And I will be doing it alone as DH will be at work. I’ve tried putting him down in the day using the same nighttime routine (noise machine on, sleeping bag on, bottle, crib, dummy if necessary). Doesn’t work. I’m going to get blackout curtains to see if I can trick him into thinking it’s nighttime. But surely then he will only ever be able to nap in the dark which just isn’t feasible at all.

I just want some advice, or even just to know I’m not alone. I just want to feel like I’m not a horrible bitch for feeling this way.

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bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 12:47

I mean between 7am and 12pm he had a 45 min nap and a 30 min nap

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Clymene · 01/03/2021 12:51

14 -15 hours is probably about average. Some babies are going to sleep more, some less.

Babies that cry are annoying I agree. I had one that I just used to push about in a pram while I listened to podcasts. He grew out of it but it was miserable for a bit for both of us.

I'm glad you're not following an app. I'm going to play back your post from Saturday:

"We had a much better day yesterday, not because he slept loads but because I was chill about it. And when he was awake he was happy so having short naps obviously didn’t hurt him that much. By the afternoon he was grizzly because he was tired but by that time I had enough energy to happily take him out in his pram for an hour. Yes it was still a bit tiring but I hadn’t also been on my feet all morning trying to keep him asleep in his sling."

Walking around with a sling is making you miserable so I would try and stop doing it if you can. Honestly, I do really think a rocking chair would work for you both. Then you'll get some rest and even if he's not asleep, it will probably keep him quiet

willowsandroses · 01/03/2021 12:56

That doesn’t sound too bad, ds has had ~much~ less than that today. It’s so hard when they are exhausted though.

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OverTheRainbow88 · 01/03/2021 12:58

my baby doesn’t do that so it must be detrimental to him...

I think having a mum who is so stressed and gets angry is probably more detrimental then short naps.

2 short naps in 5 hours after a 10 hour night sleep is fine, you really are getting yourself worked up and baby will be fine. Even if he’s sleeping a bit less than a book says he will be fine.

FTEngineerM · 01/03/2021 13:00

So a little question for some posters saying he obviously isn’t tired. I don’t know if he is or isn’t I’m not sat with OP.

Why, if he wasn’t tired, would he sleep if being rocked/held/cuddled/pram or what ever it is that OP could do do get him to sleep if she had the energy?

If a baby were simply not tired then they would not sleep under any circumstances not just under certain circumstances, no?

It doesn’t make sense to say the baby isn’t tired when they will go to sleep under certain conditions.

DeadButDelicious · 01/03/2021 13:01

If he slept for 10 hours at night he won't need to nap so much during the day.

I know everyone else has already said it but I really wouldn't be so focused on how much sleep you think he 'should' be getting, you will see all sorts of numbers bandied about but I can assure you he will not have got the memo! These numbers are averages not hard and fast rules, some will sleep more, some less. He's doing a good stretch at night and for 10/11 weeks old that's brilliant!

My DD was never really a napper, she did a lot of her sleeping at night and started sleeping through at 16 weeks.

I know when you are in the thick of it it's hard to see the wood for the trees and I can sympathize with how frustrating it all is, I wasn't blessed with patience before I had DD and I sure as heck didn't develop any more after her either! The crying does grate especially when you are trying so hard to figure out/do what they need. This really will pass.

NameChange30 · 01/03/2021 13:02

@bleachblondemom

I mean between 7am and 12pm he had a 45 min nap and a 30 min nap
Ok so he wasn't awake for 5 hours straight. Ideally you want longer naps but it's not the end of the world.
bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 13:06

I won’t even be able to take him for a walk at this rate as he screams every time I put him down

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willowsandroses · 01/03/2021 13:07

Days like that are the pits. Have you had a chance to shower etc?

TulesDana · 01/03/2021 13:07

@bleachblondemom I think the shift from trying to get him to nap, to just enjoying your time is needed. My youngest didn't nap unless she was being held, I felt completely unable to have a break too. I used to feel slightly jealous of my mum's generation, we were left in the pram in the back garden, unattended in all weathers, for hours each day, the norm apparently!

NameChange30 · 01/03/2021 13:09

I think PPs have already mentioned the possibility of reflux (or silent reflux). If he screams when you put him down, I wonder if reflux could be an issue.

I've had two babies with reflux, both prefer being upright to being laid down, and sleep has been challenging to say the least!

Potterythrowdown · 01/03/2021 13:12

@bleachblondemom

I mean between 7am and 12pm he had a 45 min nap and a 30 min nap
That sounds pretty good to me, especially if you're get 10 hours overnight too. I'm not sure what you're expecting.

Yesterday my 14 weeker had 45 minutes at 11.30 and then just under an hour at 5pm. It's just what happens some most days. I don't know how long the "experts" think she should be having, I don't know what her awake windows are, half the time I don't even know what the time is. 🤷

willowsandroses · 01/03/2021 13:18

In fairness he is crying. I think that’s what’s causing the upset not the fact he won’t sleep per se. Mine had about 30 minutes since getting up at 7 (we are currently parked as he fell asleep in the car) but he hasn’t been crying. If he was I’d be upset too.

peachgreen · 01/03/2021 13:20

I think his naps are okay, length-wise, and it's not necessarily tiredness making him cry. Reflux seems more likely to me too. DD was like this, always wanted to be held upright and moved around, couldn't lie down, only ever napped on me whilst moving. She had silent reflux and a dairy allergy.

Thesearmsofmine · 01/03/2021 13:27

One of mine was not a great sleeper, naps would only be on me and he didn’t sleep well at night either, it was hard work but I found once I just went with it instead of worrying about it it became much easier. He is 8 now and a very happy little chap who sleeps perfectly fine!

Kittykat93 · 01/03/2021 13:27

Why do you assume every time he cries it's because of tiredness? He sounds like hes actually sleeping quite well...I think you're getting so hung up and obsessed with naps and its not healthy for you or him. He could be in pain, or hungry. And get a gro blackout blind for the room if you can't get it dark enough.

mummytoone28 · 01/03/2021 13:36

So sorry you're feeling this way. Anger can be a symptom of pnd that is not often talked about. It was a symptom I had that was massively triggered by sleep and naps before I broke down and spoke to my gp and was prescribed antidepressants and the difference is night and day. Please reach out to your gp it's nothing to be embarrassed about. you and your little boy both deserve to feel happy. Hope you're okay!

bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 14:20

@Kittykat93 because I know my baby and I have a good idea what his cries mean.

Finally got him to calm down and take a bottle, he fed to sleep and has been in his crib for half an hour so far. He did 45 mins in there this morning so wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same again but hopefully it’ll be longer as I think he needs it.
I knew he was still tired after that half hour nap earlier because he was doing what he does of an evening if he gets too overtired before bed time- he will cry unless you hold him upright and walk him round the room, you can’t even sit down holding him 😆

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bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 14:23

@NameChange30 it’s not reflux, he only does the ‘please dont put me down’ crying when he’s overtired and grumpy, the rest of the time I can plop him down anywhere on his back and he’s a happy chappy

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NameChange30 · 01/03/2021 14:29

At 13.06 you said he screams every time you try to put him down, I assumed you meant in general but perhaps you meant for a nap?

bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 14:29

@Potterythrowdown it is reassuring to hear that a lot of you guys think his naps sound normal. To me they just don’t seem like enough, as I’ve said I’ve read too many guides online stating how long babies of a certain age should be asleep for and how often, and so it makes me feel like I’m doing it wrong and not helping him get enough sleep. But I have learnt over the last few days that as long as he wakes up happy and smiling, he must be feeling good, no matter how long he slept for.
So when he did 45 mins this morning and woke up in a good mood, I was like ok that’s great, no need to worry. Then when he had his half hour nap and woke up miserable, I knew it hadn’t been enough. Took a while to calm him down enough to get him back to sleep but we got there in the end.

Just about to hit the famous 45 minute mark 🙈

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bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 14:30

@NameChange30 sorry no I meant today! I was talking in present tense cos that’s what he was like at the time of writing. Sorry that wasn’t clear

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bleachblondemom · 01/03/2021 14:43

Yep he did one of his 45 minute specials 😂 he’s in a much better mood now though

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Rootsmanouvre · 01/03/2021 14:49

Oh bless you. I suggest you keep a record of this thread and read it back in a few months/years when you’ve got other things going on apart from your babies naps.

And I don’t mean that in a rude way. You will find it interesting.

2020iscancelled · 01/03/2021 14:59

Sounds totally normal.

For info this is the routine I roughly followed

First nap - 2.5 hours after waking (30-45 mins Max)

Lunch nap 2.5-3 hours after morning nap (1-2 hours, if wakes after an hour try to resettle for 15 mins if won’t resettle then get up and try to split the second hour later in the day)

15 min cap nap around 4.30 ONLY IF has not slept well during the day.

there is a fine line between sleepy and over tired so giving them a quick power nap can really help because it stops the build up or cortisol

It’s really fucking hard I know. I nearly lost my mind with sleep deprivation but it gets better I promise! 4 months is a key sleep regression so it could be that he’s heading towards that

Everything with a baby is a phase - good or bad, it always changes! So sit tight bc it will get better

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