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libb · 23/09/2004 18:10

Wouldn't we all be a nightmare on a rare ladies only night out?!

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SusiS · 29/09/2004 11:35

hmmm, ds is asleep since 8.45 and now it's 11.32 - not that i am complaining but i even got the breadmaker out and started some bread - am i getting bored already????

kbaby · 29/09/2004 11:52

Hi everyone.
DD was grizzly all afternoon and was on and off the boob all day she didnt even go to sleep until 9pm even though she was knackered. Her eyes were like saucers. After the night before I decided to get tough last night I gave 7ozs formula at 7.30 and half ashton and parsons thinking that she may have had so much fore milk during the day it might have been making her coliky/grizzly and so wanted her to get some substantial milk before bedtime. She didnt sleep until 9 and then woke up at 10.30 so I breast fed her and then she went out like a light until 6.30am. She did cry out at 3ish but by the time i'd got out of bed she fallen back to sleep. So in all we had a grouchy day and evening but at least a sleepful night.
Baby massage today, its the last one so were doing the face. DP's out tonight so DD and I are having a quiet girls night in.

Egypt · 29/09/2004 14:34

wow, thats brillian kbaby!

what a long sleep susi. when did he wake?

dd is asleep now in the car - the door is open and so is the front door. it is 2 metres away from the house and i am 2 metres away from the front door AND we live in the middle of nowhere, so i am not being a bad mummy, honest!

anyway, dryer came.....and its buggered. cant work it at all. it clicks but no drying or turning. very peeeed off. cant find my receipt andthe helpline doesnt exist. what the 'eck do i do? want to ring argos, who delivered it, but as i say cant find receipt and the binmen came this morning. have no order no or proof of purchase. and i bought the whole thing with our nectar points! who says you don't get anything for nothing inthis world?

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kbaby · 29/09/2004 17:05

Egypt wont the delivery men have had some sort of order number on their records. You could try and get hold of dispatch and see if they do and then youve got something to get a replacement with.
Forgot to say hope DD'S poo improves.

I know this is a sore subject but how many of you are returning to work and when?

SusiS · 29/09/2004 18:27

kbaby i wanted to ask the same question! well, i'll be staying home. not sure yet if i like that but i was going back only parttime and that money i'd earn there i'd have to pay for childcare. so i can play "housewife" now - glad that lo's poo improved! - egypt: what a shame about that dryer!!! i can't live without it anymore so i really hope you'll get it sorted quickly!!! - we had a nightmare earlier! seal on watertank in loft needed replacing and doing that we flooded our bathroom and a little bit even came through into the kitchen!!! am not allowed to turn on any lights (cause water came through electrics) so i dug out our campinglight - didn't feel like cooking anyways - nachos are good too - let's hope it dries off quickly and dp can give me green light using everything again!!! - egypt: yes, ds had very long morning nap (3 hours) missed out on his afternoon nap though (had only 15min) and almost fell asleep on me at 5! we managed to keep him awake to have his dinner (babyrice+fruits and a joghurt), quick catwash and off to bed! he was so tired by then that he screamed for about 10min. now he is asleep - and so is dp!!

Egypt · 29/09/2004 18:50

susi, i dont know how you keep so jolly. i'd be crying if i had no electrics!

managed to phone argos and they have arranged for someone to come and look at the dryer. not litl monday! i can't cope. clothes all over radiators at mo. going to ring them tomorrow and tell them i dont want it fixed i want a new one.

dont know what was wrong with dd today. she fed about 3 after a nap. wouldnt eat her babyrice at 5, nor have any drink. ok, fine not hungry, but was screaming like mad. put her in pram and went for walk and she was still screaming. came back and she calmed down but wasnt interested in feeding. bathed her and by this time was 6.15. tried to feed her but nope. took her in her room and fed her and she finally latched on. didnt have much and fell asleep. i expect her to wake very soon through hunger. no solids today and only 4 feeds. docs in the morning.

dh is in madrid tonight - catching up with the beckhams . i can have a night watching crap onthe tv and going to bed early - as usual!

Egypt · 29/09/2004 18:52

oh yes, i'm not going back to work. want to be a sahm and luckily we can manage,just.!

kbaby · 29/09/2004 20:06

i want to stay home too but cant afford it. Atleast not until after the wedding.

what not to wear is on

libb · 29/09/2004 20:38

DS had a romantic candlelit bath tonight - the house is being rewired and it has brought chaos to my penultimate week

Had a nice chat with childminder and line manager today and actaully had an "feeling upbeat about returning to work" moment. Bad things include (to name a couple):

  1. lack of DS
  2. leisurely strolls into town
  3. getting up late and having a bath
  4. paying another person to care for my child

Good things (again just a couple)

  1. lack of DS when popping into city centre during lunch for clothes shopping
  2. lack of leisurely strolls into town - it is bloody dire here.
  3. we'll have a shower fitted by the end of the week - hurrah! I never thought I could be so excited.
  4. I have the "another person" and she will know better than me what DS is going on about most the time. I can feel quite inadequate at times.

Despite my upbeat moment it didn't stop me shrilling at the top of my voice at DP last night about how no one else in the world could possibly understand my baby and how will he survive without me??!!!???!!! I obviously worry more about Good Things No. 4 than I care to admit - what if she does a better job?! DP is a saint and I am blaming me hormones. Mighty ramble session over now.

GeorginaA, hope you feel happier soon - big hugs to you toots xxx

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SusiS · 29/09/2004 21:18

watched "what not to wear" too - gosh, these women are just so hmmm so "honest"!! just don't let them put their hands on me !! - yep, we can manage for me to stay home too just - but i hope my "social" life will improve soon or i'll start babbling too

Egypt · 30/09/2004 08:13

libb i can totally understand your feelings about you being the only one who can understand your baby and how he couldnt possibly survive without you. i feel like this just leaving him to be babysat. it is totally natural - every mum feels it. but you will stop feeling it after a few days at work when you realise he is ok. i won't however, probably not for years! that i guess is a downside to sahm'ing. i dont really want to be this neurotic mother with a baby who won't let me go anywhere. but i am worried i will turn her into just that because of my own needs to have her with me all the time! oh dear. we have been out q a lot, but i've not left her for a day. when i stop fd'ing i know i will, because dh's mum wants to 'nick' her. but even then i will so spare. bf is my excuse for the minute. in a way i'm q envious of you. you'll have a nice balance.

well this is a first.dd is still asleep and i am up?!???!!? she was a horror yesterday as i said. she did wake again at 8.30 and i fed her, as she fell asleep partially fed at 6.30. she went till only 11.30, then 2.30, 6 and is still asleep. this is so typical. dh is away so hasnt banged around the house which i'm sure has helped. but the only reason i'm up is because i have to take her to the docs at 9! thats in 45mins. now i need a bath/shower and get her ready. think i may just shove a coat on her and take her as she is if it comes to it.

ah, she's waking!

SusiS · 30/09/2004 08:41

good luck at the docs egypt - no worries libb! i think after a few days you'll realise lo is allright and you'll get an even bigger smile when you get home - i don't have anybody around here to look after ds for an hour or so (mil lives in kent, and well, all my family in austria) - would be nice sometimes. although i don't really know yet if i'd be really comfortable with doing it - i might ending up calling and checking in every 5 min ! - oh, had a really fab night last night. fed ds 10pm when i went to bed and he woke at 3am!!!! i had a full 5 hours uninterrupted sleep!!! quick feed (give him only 3oz, he seems to be happy with that; maybe i can reduce it further?) - and then i got another 3 hours!! then dp came home from work and we all 3 ended up in the same bed - doesn't happen very often - ds loved it though! - but ds and myself we are up now and he is talking and cooing all the time - besides that it's really nasty weather here today. grey in grey and raining .. so a day in i guess

spots · 30/09/2004 10:06

Libb, ds is HARD WIRED to love you best. I always find this reassuring when feeling inadequate. DD doesn't laugh at my jokes as much as she does other peoples' (!) and sometimes that makes me worry that she thinks I am an arse. I know, I am really silly about this sort of thing. I just have to remember that she doesn't have a finite pot of lurve that's reduced if she shares it around.

OK, now I am questioning my sanity. Can we talk about babies loving people at this age? DD is delighted by certain people and seems to love them dearly. I thought she was loving me yesterday when I took her to a children's theatre show and she had a feed while it was on, but kept breaking off to beam at me with her eyes shining in the dark. [soppy emoticon]

I had taken her with me to this conference; it was a bit of a full-on day as we had to use public transport to get there and then attended 3 events. Because it was oriented around children I felt it was ok to have a baby there as long as I paid attention to whatshe needed and her noise levels during shows! In the end she was amazing and really seemed to enjoy a lot of it... already she responds to entertainment.

This is a good example of how I seem to be sort of back at work already, tho not being paid, and taking DD with me! what's the opposite of having your cake and eating it?

So DD last night was in bed properly at 9, then woke 12.15, 4, 6 and awake at 7.30. This is a reasonably good night!

Egypt · 30/09/2004 10:21

what a good baby spots! that's lovely. you made my heart melt when talking about her eyes shining in the dark, awwwwww......my hairs have stood on end.

doc said that things should be ok as she is fine in herself and prob just a bug. but am waiting for her to poo now so can send a sample off just in case. your nights sound like mine still spots.

spoke to aunt yesterday who said, 'she ought to be sleeping through by now' and my other aunt who said 'you shouldnt breast feed them for this long. all the goodness goes out of it'. AAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

oh, but argos are sending me a new dryer

SusiS · 30/09/2004 11:20

spots: what conference was that??? and wow, a really good lo of yours!! - egypt: glad that dd is fine again - hihi relatives!!! i always get "selective hearing" when around relatives and great that dryer will arrive finally!!! you'll see; lifesaving!!! - hm, ds was strange today. after we got up at 7, he had bottle at 8 and managed to stay awake till 9.30 (which is quite late for him) and then he slept only 45 min! up for another half an hour and now he is back in bed hmmm - well, maybe another of those changes - omg, he really shocked me today in the morning!!!! he was lying next to me and once in a sudden he didn't get enough air! and his body went all tense and back arched - like he had something stuck in his throat (?) - i held him up and patted his back bu the wouldn't stop for a few minutes!!!!! then he had a little burp and he was alright again - don't really know what that was but it was scary!!!

Egypt · 30/09/2004 13:56

scary susi. sounds like a little pain with some trapped wind. bless him. dd used to do this q a lot. she'd kind of choke and fight to get a breath. q scary until she did it all the time! hasnt done it since she was small though.

libb · 30/09/2004 19:28

DS is making my life very hard at the moment. He knows I have to go back to work a week on Monday and has spent the whole day being wonderfully cute and chatty. He has been saying "gliiee, gliiee" and "aaa-ooo" with lots of concentration all day long - what is this about? He is definitely trying to tell me something.

And please can someone tell me why I have spent a small fortune on toys and yet my fingers are the best thing ever - he even chats to them, especially when they tickle his nose. Then they disappear into his mouth for a quick taste - I made a big mistake by letting him have a little lick of Crunchie ice cream, he couldn't suck hard enough. Maybe I should consider a little practice with pureed foods every now and again?

We are all listening to the new Kings of Leon song on MTV2 right now, not sure about it - they were ace at Glastonbury - I can't wait until Reuben is old enough to strut his stuff in the Childrens Field.

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Egypt · 30/09/2004 20:10

bless him. dd has learned a new sound too. buurrrr buuuurrrr whilst pursing her mouth in a kiss shape and blowing raspberries. much better than the grrrrrs that we had for a few weeks.

she did it again tonight - woke after an hour of being in bed. why is this happening? been like it for a week now. i know they enter a light sleep after 45 mins, so i guess she is getting to that and waking, unable to go back. i go to stroke her and she grabs my hand and shoves it in her mouth. she roots around, thrashing her head from side to side. i try a dummy and she gags. my finger and she gags. try shoving her thumb in and she gets cross. so i end up putting her on boob and within seconds she is asleep. pick her up and put her in cot and she lightly wakes and puts her thumb in and is away. i need to find another way of getting her to sleep. at the mo i'm the only one who can settle her. any ideas??
pleeeeeease?

libb · 30/09/2004 21:19

Sorry. No help here - DS likes to go settle exactly the same way, I would like to think they know what is good for them . Last night DS slept from 10 until 7am - although I always wonder if it is because I am so tired I don't hear him waking as I should! He often sucks his fingers for a moment and then dozes off again. Am I being pants?

I had a dream that Twiglett moved in next door but she had a very dubious bob hairstyle so I knew it wasn't her!

How are things mood wise for us all? mine seem to be flinging around all over the place . . . [every emoticon available!)

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SusiS · 30/09/2004 21:32

well i am doing quite well at the moment!! had my bad day of the month already - ds is very entertaining! learnt to smack his lips and talks all day long. and you just have to look at him and he laughs. and when he's got his "ticklytime" there is no stopping him from laughing out really loud! and a bit into the game i don't even have to touch him and he would start laughing - oh and he just loves his solids lately!!! lunch a big cup of veggies and dinner a big cup of fruits and 2 joghurts! i can't shove the spoon into his little mouth quick enough - always open like a little bird - but he's getting quite impatient lately. he just wants everything he can see. and now! - well, he keeps me already on my toes. ohhhh, and that rolling onto tummy thingy aaarrgghh will he ever learn to roll back alone?? i couldn't even turn around and he was on his tummy again. and laughing his head off - i observed ds after i've put him to bed. yes, about 1 hour later he woke up too. but he settled with his dummy, his muslin and a bit of sshhhhshing. (i got a different dummy now which he really likes. the one i had before: no chance!!!) -

linnet · 30/09/2004 22:21

Dd2 has been a bit funny the past couple of days. Refusing to sleep during the day.

Yesterday she wouldn't go for her nap, she was so tired but screamed every time we put her in her cot. She had a small nap on the way home from school in the morning then woke up at 9.30am and that was her until the afternoon. She refused to sleep at 11am so we put her in the pram to go get her weighed at 2pm thinking she'd sleep on the way but no she was still wide awake when we got there. She weighed in at 15lbs 5oz this week, no wonder my arms hurt when I'm carrying her.
Anyway she finally fell asleep when we left my work but again at dinner time she just screamed and screamed, not fun when I'm trying to cook dinner for dd1 and I and Dh is at work and there is nobody to give her to. In the end I put her in her carseat and rocked her for a couple of minutes and she went to sleep. All very odd.

This morning she woke with a rash on her face so we had go to the dr's. The appointment wasn't until the afternoon and of course the rash faded during the day but by the time we got there it had started to reappear. The dr said it looked like an allergic reaction to something, but we couldn't figure out what. Still she seems ok. But again wouldn't sleep. In the end we put her in the car seat and she went to sleep again, very odd. She goes to bed at bedtime in her cot ok though. Maybe she's allergic to daytime naps in her cot

When I was in work yesterday everyone was asking me when I was coming back. I go back on December 13th about 12 or 13 weeks I think I was counting it the other day. I like to think that people were asking me when I was back because they miss me but I think it was really because they are so short staffed, no they do miss me or at least some of them do. They haven't got anyone in to cover my maternity leave! and someone else has left so I think they are feeling the pinch. am I looking forward to going back? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I think if we could afford for me to stay off for the other 6 months I would but we can't so I have to go back. but hey I might win the lottery before December so who knows

Dd2 likes to lie on her mat and chat to the lampshade. She tells it really big long complicated stories. It's so funny and she's so cute. I like to think that she's talking to my mum and my grandad. It does sometimes seem like she's having a proper conversation she'll chat then stop as if listening and then answer, or giggle as if someone has done something funny.

SusiS · 01/10/2004 07:57

good morning everybody! linnet: seems that dd is a carseatbaby - i know what you mean about being asked when i return to work. i too got that question from everybody everywhere and anywhere. a bit annoying! - ohhhh, and aren't lo's just cute with their conversations??? ds does it too, he's got a tree though

SusiS · 01/10/2004 08:01

sigh i had a terrible night! not because of ds; he was ok - but that tummypain came back; and with friends !! ds woke me at 2am, i quickly fed him and after that i just managed to crawl back into bed. pain all over the tummy. completly blown up and i just didn't dare to move. everything hurt. i was close to call dp at work to come home but i gave it another 20min and controlled my breathing; tried to relax pfff - and it got better eventually. i managed to get out of bed, got me a cup of tea and walking around did me all good too!!! - seems like i can't control my "windhoushold" () anymore. could it be the c-section????? - still a bit tense now but i am up and allright - well, besides being very very tired

Egypt · 01/10/2004 08:58

perhaps you should just mention it to the hv or doctor. could be a result of the c section susi.

linnet, i sometimes think dd is talking to ghosts. would love to think it's my nan and grandad. when did you lose your mum? she always seems to do it when in the bath and stares at the same place in the bathroom.

she woke 4 times last night. actually, following my post, she proved me wrong again. actually woke at 9.30 and settled herself. guess she was perhaps just talking in her sleep as i didnt go into her, just heard on the monitor. at least she didnt wake today until nearly 8 again. still doing the 6o.c waking even though we made sure the heating was off!

was astonished last night when watching that fat nation thing, that one of those little petit-filous yoghurts has over HALF the recommended daily allowance of sugar for children. i was planning on giving these to dd when she was ready but won't now. don't know if they are the ones you give ds susi?

dont know if you've seen my thread in food section, but am cutting out orange juice. think, after some research, it may be causing dd's bad tummy.

Egypt · 01/10/2004 09:03

lol at the dream libb!

see twiglett - we really do miss you.

i'm feeling ok thanks. never really have had much problem with hormones. only when dh pisses me off by being lazy, i can go into a mood for a day. but fine when not in his company! oh dear. like last night when i was ironing and he was watching tv on his arse, i got the 'you are a noisy bugger' comment as the steamer kept whoosing behind his head.