new June babies thread cos the other one is miles long...

[Skara]

...and I'm too lazy to scroll down to the bottom to do a reply

Secur I'm just as bad as you, I can't bear seeing him grow up - I love the newborn stage but then I love this stage too, they're so squidgy and gorgeous .

Xena, you can carry on breastfeeding once you've started solids and stop whenever you want, whether that's at 9 months, 12 months, 18 months, 2 years...I tend to get pregnant as a method of stopping bf, although I don't plan to do that this time - fancy a bigger age gap. However have spooked myself by realising how old I'm going to be by the time I've had all these children and got them settled at school - eek.

MG, I have gained a smidgen or two (5lb) since my lowest post-baby weight. I have NO idea why this time, although massive quantities of chocolate, sweeties, cake, biscuits and bread from my new breadmaker might have something to do with it. Think I may have to swallow my pride (why not, I've eaten everything else) and go to something like WW or Slimming World, argh . oops have to run, no2 is screeching at me from above...

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Well done Secur - big or small loss, I think it's a great achievement cos dieting or eating sensibly or whatever it is that you did is a great achievement when you have other things on your mind. I am at a really unhealthy weight now which is why I am particularly obsessed - don't want to be this fat anymore as I am worried about the medium/long-term consequences (as well as wanting to wear 'normal' clothes again).

Anyway, A is keeping me busy. He had another bad night last night. He decided that at about 4:30am he was going to practice his 'talking' and snorting for nearly 2 hours. I just don't understand why he is suddenly doing this but I guess there is no logic to babies. I'm hoping it's just a very short stage. He tends to sleep every 2/3 hours or so during the day for about half an hour and he's now on his third half hour so I don't think he's oversleeping during the day. He does seem very hungry always so I may be giving bfing up soon as it never seems to satisfy him for long.

I have a question for bottle-feeders - do you give them 5 bottles before the night-time sleep? Do they really go 4 hours in-between feeds? A now gets 3 bottles a day and can barely go 3 hours between each one - and he has the one for hungrier babies! He must be making up for lost time, the little guzzler.

right I am officially flouncing here...any more weightloss by you lot and I'm going to have to find you all and force feed you

I am still floundering fatly at 2 stone overweight. However I am eating the whole universe constantly so no blooming wonder.

Have to go as my rhubarb crumble and custard is ready (!) but Jude is laughing too and it's lovely.

Secur - sorry at pinching your thunder. And Skara I am one stone below pre-pregnancy weight but still have more than 2 stone to lose, if that makes you feel any better . And have an obsence flabby tummy. I really don't remember it being this bad after DD1 - although I suppose 2 c-sections down the road and it is perhaps to be expected that my muscle tone is buggered! And on the same note took myself off to aqua-aerobics this morning and felt that I looked great and was so fit compared to all the 80 years olds that were my class companions . It appears that only OAPS go to the 9.15 classes, doh I felt such a tube!

Secur know what you mean about the lurking but not posting bit, I am real guilty of that too. Often feel that I have nowt to say and don't want to babble on about DDs all the time. Must do better!

Cheers,

my tummy is grotesque. Am contemplating reviving the lactating losers thread and attempting to lose weight...just as soon as I digest this tasty pudding

I love hearing everyone going on about the babies all the time so don't hold back on my account - I just don't get enough time to post or I'd be on here rambling away constantly too. It's just impossible at the mo with the 2 year old destructo-boy trying to wreck the place as soon as I even touch the computer...

Well I love hearing what everyone's little ones are doing, not to compare in a 'nah nah my ds is better than yours' but just interested to see if anyone is going through the same problems etc for advice and support. Also I don't actually like talking about babies etc too much in RL so I tend to sound off here!

Just thought I'd add my tuppence worth (again).

Skara - what is even more obscene is that I lost several pounds when I was ill two weeks ago but still managed to put it all back on again last week. I am such an idiot!! And I'm too embarassed to go back on the lactating losers thread (which has died a death though??)

Right okay knuckles fairly rapped by MG and Skara! Only kidding girls - I suppose where I am coming from is that Lily is such a very good baby I don't want you all to think I am only coming on to go nah, nah etc.

lol @ you lot. i haven't weighed myself in ages! all I knowis that i am gradually fitting back into pre preg clothes - well bottom halves! my boobs are still way too big for my old tops & my tummy to flabby for the shorter ones!!!

got some lovely bf tops form NCTsales tho & mum just made me a fleece jacket with zips in fo rbfing & an extra zip in panel for when i have molly in her sling.

Sam is enjoying his mornings at school.
Molly is good - can sit unaided for short periods, trying really hard to crawl/move & almost rolled over today while in the nuddy. think she finds rolling hard in her big fat cloth nappies!

Am feeling broody again ow - all my firends are preg now & there is going to be a mad flurry of babies for me to cuddle over xmas & new year - I am gettingjealous cos M is growing soo fast.

Well I've waffled & bored you all enough now.
best go pay M some attention b4 its time for school run& tuimble tots

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BW - you probably have done exactly the right thing by not weighing yourself - it can just lead to an unjustified panic or depression.

That's amazing that Molly is trying to crawl! Alex thrashes around like a fish out of water on his tummy, he really hates it and can't lift his head up at all.

Gomez - perfect baby and losing weight - right you're banned from this thread (only kidding of course).

I'm wondering if I got it wrong about A having a painless growth spurt last week as this week he cries when he finishes his milk and has been waking up several times the past few nights. Or am I just groping in the dark for a reason for his grumpiness etc. He's just had his last set of injections (the 5 in 1!) and is fast asleep in his buggy, bless him. He just needs to go to hospital for a TB one now, which I am dreading more.

Ho hum, off to pretend to do something constructive.

no time to say anything but need to relieve myself

bl**dy effing stupid health visitor

just called to arrange J's jabs and have been patronised to death...fume fume

BW am v impressed at your mother being so creative, mine is still knitting the cardigan she started for me when I was due to start school .

hey I'm back! Not from anywhere of course - just too slack to post. I check this thread everyday when i check my email, so i AM interested in all you guys....i just don't post . All is going well here. Grace is absolutely lovely, smiling and giggling most of the time. Not too grumpy except at end of day when she really needs to go to bed.
Her night time sleeping has been pretty average - waking at around 2.30 then 5 or 6. But last night she woke at 1am! I didn't feed her (i usually just do) , instead I gave her a little cuddle, wrapped her in her rug and put her back to bed and the little darling snuffled and snorted her way back to sleep till 4.30 when she had a quick feed and slept again til 8.30. I was surpried that she was so quiet and settled. dd1 would've screamed the house down. She's also started going to sleep happily on her own at naptimes too! I find this pretty exciting cos I really struggled with dd1's sleep and she just cried herself to sleep until at least 15months old .

MG - We are dummy free now except for the odd evening when shes grumpy and tired. But even then shes not that keen. How are you going with the dummy or did you decide to keep it? I was getting close to giving up and letting her keep it then suddenly she was fine without it. Don't know what happened really.
As for my fatness...well i've gone on a pretty strict diet - low fat low carb (oh how I miss chocolate - except for that bar that I couldn't resist on the weekend!). I have been pretty good and lost maybe 2kgs but its so slow. Oh well, at least its a step in the right direction. And we just won't talk about my flabby, stretch marked belly !!
Skara - hope you're feeling better about your HV. How is it they can be so crap! Hope you didn't put up with the rubbish!
Anyway, will check in again soon - and possibly post too!!!!

MG- SCott has 3 8oz and one5oz bottles during the day and a bottle of water. I have been naughty though and started to give him a little food 2-3 tea spoons worth at lunch time. Please don't start preaching anyone. He seems to be ready and enjoys it v much.Again he has followed the footsteps of DD. He is still sleeping through the night. At the weekend we went to Protaras on Friday night to take DD to the karaoke (as it was her 8th b-day ibn sunday 3rd)
he even managed to sleep through that. DD sang a few and I even got up for a couple!!!!!!.

We then went to Agia Napa water park on sunday with soe friends. DD was fearless and went on more slides than I would, she even had fully grown men waiting for her to come down one slide as they didn't like it !! as soon as she came down she stood up and ran up the top shouting YEAHHHH. (Mad child)
My dad and broyther have just gone back today after staying with us for a week which was nice. They were both amazed at Scott (I think he cried maybe 4 times duroing the wole week, and only one of the times was a proper screaming fit!) They both said they have never seen such a happy baby. I am just waiting for him to change and start to become frustratedetc and whine alot. will just have to wait and see.

Anyway must go to bed.
Hope everyone is ok. (On weight loss I score nil points!!)

Cathncait - well done with being nearly dummy-free. Guess you don't have to play that hunt-the-dummy game in the night. I was doing ok then when we went on holiday last week dh slipped it into the wee one's mouth more than I wanted him to (he can't cope with the 'going to sleep shouts') so we kind of went backwards and I feel I'm back at square one. I was going to try again this week but as I've said A has been very unsettled. Today has been awful. He's cried whilst feeding which he never normally does, and even cried with the dummy in which again he doesn't normally do. He doesn't have a temperature but I wonder if he is reacting to his injection or if he might be teething. Anyway I don't hold out hope for a good night so I'm on the wine (dd1 also had screaming fits today cos I dared to stop her playing with her friend after nearly 6 hours)!

Karen - thanks for that. A is having so much more milk and I think could manage even more if I let him. I'm just nervous about turning him into Giant Haystacks (the wrestler!) or something. No lectures re weaning - you have to do what you feel is right for baby. I don't think I will hold out much longer.

Skara - since when did you start listening to HVs?? What did they 'advise' this time?

How come everyone else on this thread's baby is so 'trouble-free' for want of a better phrase? Sorry but I'm having a bad bad day and am questionning my 'mummy' skills today.

mg - please don't feel that everyones abbies here are trouble free. You're not alone. Some days round here are hell! And after saying how well Grace settled herself previously in the night - last night wanted a feed at 2.30 and nothing could deter her. So now I'm back to thing 'this one will never sleep through either!'. it was only last week when by the time dh came home from work (around 9pm) i was in tears cos i'd had such a crap day and was totally 'over' the kids!
Don't question your mummy skills. You really are doing great - babies are unpredictable little buggers at times and its so hard to know whats going on when they change their routine at all.
Hang in there .
Would write more but dd1 is wrecking stuff...til later.

Thanks Cathncait - I know logically that babies are unpredictable but I guess I've been feeling so crap recently cos dd1 has been playing up a bit and I don't think I've been handling it very well, coupled with other issues I have, and yesterday was the final straw. Oh well, A is actually much less grumpy today so hopefully he will be back to his laid back, snorting, smiling (but not sleeping through the night!) self.

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can't type as doing it over the top of feeding J so hideously uncomfy but mg, the reason no3 is so heavenly and easy is cos no1 is borderline autistic spectrum-ish big question mark over head type thing and no2 is a maniac who can't be left alone for 2 mins without destroying house. If J was tricky too I think I'd leave home!

more later when not in torturous position but happy birthday to us all from me too - I remember desperately wanting to start the june thread but not daring to, having had a m/c earlier that year. Hope the new june mothers don't look here and see how frazzled we are or they'll be wondering what on earth they're doing

Oh Monkeygirl I am sure you are a wonderful Mummy - if you were rotten you wouldn't care and so wouldn't be questioning yourself iykwim. Chin up love.

Nice to hear from you Karen - has Scott graduated onto anything more exciting that babyrice yet? I can't bear that stuff (although to be fair since it is not me eating it that shouldn't really matter) and was thinking of starting Lily straight onto mince & tattties!

And hello to you too Cathncait. Hope all is well.

Lots happening at this end - had a meeting with my boss to day to discuss a part-time return and what my role would be. Went fairly well so just waiting for him to come back to me now to see what he can do.

After 3 weeks of Uni have decided to have a break as (1) can't really afford this years fees and (2) I am so not motivated and if I am going to be skint to pay for it then I want to make sure I will pass the bloody thing. Also hoping it might open up some more nursery options as we are really struggling to find a nursery we like with days that suit. Total bummer.

Right of to watch some telly and have a wee glass of vino. Take care all.

Hi all, have also been lurking a bit, & away too.

Secur I didn't realise you lot had all been 'together' for that long - I really was the new girl butting in. Wish I'd realised sooner that this thread was here.

MG I only have 1 and went through horrible time 10 days ago, feeling really bad and wanting 'myself' back, feeling bad for wanting that, thinking was bad mother etc. etc. etc. and weeping all over the shop. It may sound horrid, but am heartened to hear am not the only one feeling crap

Having got through that, Ava is lovely, lovely, lovely at the mo' happy, smiley, did proper laugh for the 1st time last week, turned over, started to eat her toes 2 days ago, loves her baby bouncer (tried 1st time yesterday) ahhhhhhhh. And evil mother Hubbard over here is about to take her for her 2nd lot of jabs

I'm glad you found us, XenaWP. I kind of like the fact it's a 'quiet' group. Some of the other threads are so busy I really wouldn't know what to say.

Guess what?! Nicky is now almost 17 weeks and I haven't started solids yet. I feel most proud. I really think I will make it to 26 weeks on boobie milk after all. Although he won't take my milk in a bottle which is awkward since I'd like to start back to work parttime.

Skara -- what did the HV do to annoy you so much? I can't be bothered to go see mine... Too much effort with the other children in tow. Was it about jabs? It turns out at our surgery that "everybody" is waiting for the 5-in-1 jab to come in, just like me.

N. isn't rolling, and he still wakes up 3-4x/night which is a realy PSSR!! One day I will rediscover reading newspapers & Sunday lie-ins. Everyone loves N., though. He's the most smiley of all my babies.

Gomez- To be honest I never bothered with baby rice as nIcole wouldn't entertsain it at all. ( another slap for karen.!!)
Scott is on the Farleys powder fruit and yogurt and he loves that one. I have also given him apple rusk (both made with his milk). he doesn't have it everyday as some days he doesn't seem to want it he just wants his bottles which is fine by me. I just go with whatever he wants.

It is a real pain in the arse though as the powder farleys food is £2.65 cypriot, which is about £3 sterling so is mega expensive and I can only get the sweet ones no savoury. MIL is coming over tommorrow so I have asked her to get me some savoury ones and bring them out and apparantley they are onl £1.10 in the UK. God I am being ripped off.

I have just booked our flights home for christmas this week, I can't wait. It is going to be so funny to see how Scott reacts to the weather in good old blighty. My mam is going to be away in Goa for most of the time we are home so I have told her that we will be nicking her car seem as she won't be needing it, so it has saved us having to hire one.

Are any of you on MSN messenger, for chats etc.

If anyone is interested my email is [email protected]

Happy Birthday to us all, I am quite jealous of the June 05 mams as I want to be going through it again, But hey atleast we all have out beautiful babies

Dohh thats not my email at all my email address is [email protected]

He rolled over today! 3 times. Tummy to back which I thought was harder, too.

Xena I'm glad you found us too wish I had time to type but have friend coming for lunch and am making pizza again (see panasonic breadmaker thread for inspiration ).

The hv...well, she very subtly and without saying anything outright implied that I was being a neglectful mother because a)J hasn't had any jabs yet (as I was waiting to decide whether to have Infanrix or the 5 in 1) and b) because I didn't bother with a 6 week check. She insisted on coming to my house, was arsey with me when I couldn't do the time she wanted (lunchtime, when no2 has just returned from preschool) and arsey when I told her what time was suitable. She obviously thought I had an attitude problem and tbh I have , I hate being told what to do cos I am happy and secure with the choices I make. Rant rant rant - grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...have to go make pizza now in manner of domestic goddess.