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mother left her children sleeping in the car and went shopping....one of them woke up....

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ruddynorah · 10/06/2007 17:53

i work at a huge out of town m&s with an enormous car park. this woman left her small baby and her 3 year old daughter asleep in the car. she locked the doors and left the windows slightly open (it was very very hot) and went into the store to do some food shopping.

while she was shopping, the 3 year old woke up, unlocked the car door, got out and started wandering around the car park. so there she is, bare feet, half asleep, dummy in her mouth, looking for her mummy... when another customer saw her and brought her into the store for us to look after and find her mum.

the 3 year old tells me her baby sister is still asleep in the car. so we did a tannoy for her mum (at that point not sure if she actually was in our store or the asda next door, or the boots...or that the girl had given us the correct name) and the security guard went into the car park to look for this car with the door possibly wide open and a baby asleep in it( or maybe awake by then).

so i'm standing there with this 3 year old feeling slightly shaky at how awful the whole thing is, when the mother turns up with the security guard. she's gone to her car with the shopping to find her 3 year old missing. the security guard found her shouting for her daughter. she's apparently mildly concerned, but not terribly. she sees the look on my face and says... 'i know what you're thinking and it's not like that actually, i only left them for 5 minutes to get a few bits so don't look at me like that, how was i to know she could unlock the car?!' and off they went

i'm not quite sure how i was looking at her, my head was just racing with...what if someone had run this tiny child over, or what if she'd wandered off and no one stopped her...or what if someone reached in and opened the car door and took her... silly, silly woman. doubt she'll do it again.

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VoluptuaGoodshag · 10/06/2007 21:05

Meant to say in a car - my typing is keck these days

FioFio · 10/06/2007 21:06

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twentypence · 10/06/2007 21:07

Well for all that sequence of events to have happened she must have been gone for more than 5 minutes.

Since ds went into a seat belt type booster seat I have insisted that he come with me - even if it's a genuine quick whip (30 seconds at post office park right outside). Because I could see him deciding to get out of the car if he changed his mind.

This weekend he also disabled the child locks (which he wouldn't have seen us do for a good 6 months) because he was "sick of them". So I have to pop him in his seat, fasten him in and then activate the child lock.

He is 4, but I would have been this cautious at 3.

"how was I to know she could unlock the car?"

"how was I to know that he could roll off the bed?"

"how was I to know he could reach up that high?"

Well you don't the first time, but I agree with those that have said she won't do it again. I'm a little envious she has a 3 year old that sleeps during the day though.

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Aitch · 10/06/2007 21:07

no, not okay, you gambling freak.

VoluptuaGoodshag · 10/06/2007 21:10

Yup I am sure she has learned her lesson thankfully not in the hardest way. I just get a little sad at the "hang em high" attitude. No one seems to have any compassion anymore.

ViciousSquirrelSpotter · 10/06/2007 21:11

She was obviously very stupid, leaving such young children in this heat.

But really, those of you who scream "neglect", what do you want to happen to this woman? She obviously realises that this is a big huge fuck up and she will never do it again. (If she does, then I'll sharpen my pitchfork and join the baying mob.) She doesn't need SS to go round and tell her this was not good practice, she now knows - she's learnt the hard way, but luckily for her, not the hardest way.

BTW her looking only slightly concerned as opposed to frantic, may possibly be embarrassment, shame, shock... why not be kind and give someone the benefit of the doubt?

ViciousSquirrelSpotter · 10/06/2007 21:12

Blimey VoluptuaGoodshag, are you telepathic with me this evening?

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hatrick · 10/06/2007 21:14

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divastrop · 10/06/2007 21:17

an old friend of mine used to leave her dd in the car and go to get a few bits.the dd was about 2.5 at the time.on one occasion somebody noticed her in the car and rang the police,who waited for my friend to return and then told her they were reporting her to SS.SS went round and interviewed her and her dh,did a risk assessment,and were satisfied that it was just an error of judgement and told her if it happened again they would be done for neglect.

i cant believe for a second that anybody could say its ok to leave small kids in a car,out of sight,and go into a supermarket.its NOT the same as leaving them to pay for petrol,and not the same as leaving them outside a shop in a pram.

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VoluptuaGoodshag · 10/06/2007 21:19

VSS

VoluptuaGoodshag · 10/06/2007 21:22

I must be really lucky then to live in an area when people still do leave prams outside shops (buggies no less that are easier to manoever) and there are also childminders, parents who leave their charges in buggies outside nursery when collecting others. No one bats an eyelid.

Good old Glasgow certainly isn't the mean city it's made out to be

Aitch · 10/06/2007 21:25

my mum used to leave us outside the shops in the silver cross, but it was different then. there weren't supermarkets on local streets, just wee grocers, fishmongers and butchers etc that had open windows for the most part, so you'd have seen someone nicking your baby.
i agree with divastrop. crossing a car park, passing a supermarket on a hot day etc etc etc etc is Totally Different to paying for petrol imo.

Peachy · 10/06/2007 21:26

It is ile shopping with 2 kids of course, but there are ways around it- I cant atke ds1 and ds3 shopping wothout an extra adult aso I HAVE to organise myself aorund it

Aitch · 10/06/2007 21:26

lol, it's the razor city, don't forget. (i've left dd outsideveggie hops, fishmongers etc. always one eye on her).

nappyaddict · 10/06/2007 21:36

in fact i have left ds in the car for longer than 5minutes. it was probably about 10 minutes when i went into the back to find out why £1000 had not been credited to my account when it had disappeared out of another.

if it was a real emergency i might even leave him 15 minutes. not sure what a real emergency would be though.

i also leave him on the drive asleep and have left him outside my friends house asleep. she has no drive but lives on a quietish road.

WK007 · 10/06/2007 21:39

Sorry ruddynorah - she'd put her shopping in the car??? So either she didn't even bother looking to check her LO's were still ok after being left or she saw the 3yo was gone and still stopped to put the shopping away?

Will probably get jumped on but that one bit alone makes me think she's incredibly stupid now.

Aitch · 10/06/2007 21:40

that's true, you'd think you'd just drop them and start screaming tbh. unless she hadn't noticed...

WK007 · 10/06/2007 21:42

Exactly, she may not even have looked - don't know which idea is worse but they're both pretty unbelievable!

nappyaddict · 10/06/2007 21:43

do we actually know how long she was gone for?

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 10/06/2007 21:45

Its possible. We didnt know DD could work out how to climb over to the front seats and open the door (child locks in the back) until she did one day. (Unloading shopping from car to house).

The thing is, when a child learns a new 'trick' they dont tell you about it first. They just do it....

Elibean · 10/06/2007 21:47

Another one who takes her 3 yr old (and I have a baby too) in to pay for petrol. These days, I give her the choice - so far, always wanted to come with me, so she does. Holding hands, not running amok, no problem. But yes, is a PITA at times, for sure. Lots of things are, though - or is that just the six month post baby blues/exhaustion

Re the OP, I worry about kids left in the car on hot hot days, especially babies. And I would have worried about them waking up and being upset, too, 'cos mine would have been. Quite scary, would never do it, hope the lady in question never does it again.

LadyOfTheFlowers · 10/06/2007 21:48

im sorry, but i agree with those who say it is not on.
never underestimate what your child can do. ds1 is 22 months and only needs to see something once to know how to do it. you dont even have to show him, he just notices what you do and stores it in his brain for later. like when i let him in the loo with me once during my monthly then a month later he took a wrapped (obviously!) tampon from my bag and tried to shove it up his bum in front of mother in law!

when you pay for petrol you can see the car the whole time.

i am particularly shocked about it being a very very hot day and still leaving them in the car personally.....