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MOTHER NEVER HAS HER CHILD WHAT CAN WE DO

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Sarajandb · 20/11/2017 12:58

My partner has a 6 year old with his ex and we have her 50/50 (but have her more ) we have lived together for 4 years. We have her Thursday- Sunday week one Tuesday - Friday week 2. The problem is tues-fri where she has to have her fri and sat night she never has her. So she wont have her in the week or at the weekend. We always find out shes slept at someones house but its not grandparents its young cousins babysitting or sleeping at friends houses anyone who will have her rally as shes very social and drinks a lot. She will take her to the pub and have someone else take her home so she can stay out all night. Shes been passed from pillar to post. what can we do ? It blows my brains how she cant plan her social life around when she doesn't have her. She gets much more spare time then most separated parents.

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Sarajandb · 21/11/2017 10:45

TsunamiOfShit - Yes the mother is supposed to have her half the week but never has her ! so for example if she is with us Tues - friday she will then have someone else have her on the saturday and usually not get her back till Sunday late. She then will have her monday night but bare in mind she drops her off with a neighbour to take her to school and he mum picks her up she doesn't collect her till 5:30pm gets home at 6pm shes in bed for half 7 so doesn't actually have any time with her then she will do same Tues and wed then she will come back to us Thursday - Sunday and its a repeat two weekly process. She literally sees her child for a hour or two a couple of evenings a week and in the morning she takes her round to the neighbour to dress feed and take to school.

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Sarajandb · 21/11/2017 10:47

BowlingShoes - exactly if this was a post about a man from a woman hes would be the worlds worst because im a step mum its as if i'm picking on her... You don't know the half of it !! Last year when we took her on holiday for 2 weeks over an 8 week period she had her 5 nights. but refuses to give her up so she can keep the money !

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Sarajandb · 21/11/2017 14:44

brilliotic - sorry for the delay it was a long message to get through. I think ive covered all points.

So the week where we have her tues - Friday you can guarentee the friday and saturday night at least one of those nights she if fobbed off but she wont collect or have her dropped off in the morning she wont get her back still say Sunday tea time where its bath and bed then shes up in the morning and drops her with the neighbour in her pjs and goes to work the neighbour dresses feeds and takes her to school so she will literally have seen her for a few hours that week total. The week where its our weekend Thursday - Sunday inst as bad but we still find she fobbs her off to go out for meals and to the pub if theres any social event she categorically wont miss it. Its not the same people no she will leave her with many different friendsshe recently left her with the neighbour to stay out in the pub bonfire night to me bonfire night should be for the kids spent with the kids if we had known she could have stayed with us and been in her own bed instead of somewhere she had never slept before but she wanted the best of both to show up and play mummy at the pub but not keep her to stay out to drink.

The child if over friendly with strangers and will speak and is trusting of anyone because she is used to been around many strangers in pubs and been left with various people.

The child needed up in hospital with croup came out to a freezing house no slippers on no dressing gown and it delayed her recovery. common sense stuff really. grandma gave her money for gas because she spent all her money going out. With regards to food i cant proove anything its hearsay from the child not much we can do we ensure she has a balanced diet at out house and luckily she gets school dinners at school.

  • DSD co-sleeps with her DM and DM's new boyfriend. This is a major issue for us. We dont know how often or how many times the child dropped it into conversation just before they split and the mother excused it by saying it wouldn't happen again as they split but we recently found out she is still with him and never split so need to approach this again. the child will be with us from tonight so we can find out if its happened since the reunion.
She sleeps with her mum every single night she doesnt sleep in her own room which is in the attic shes scared of it but her mum wont swap rooms. We have tried to get her to change her ways or certain things but she just lies through things and tells the child not to tell us things. so she wont change at all.
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diddl · 22/11/2017 07:58

"she drops her off with a neighbour to take her to school and he mum picks her up she doesn't collect her till 5:30pm "

Is that because she works by any chance?

brilliotic · 22/11/2017 09:40

So what are you going to do about it now?

  • Nothing.
If you (your DP) think it's not ideal but DSD will survive.
  • Try to get DM to change her ways.
That's not very likely but perhaps worth a try? Have a think on how you might increase your chances of achieving this. Obviously the way you have been approaching it so far didn't work. Perhaps it has got to be only your DP who talks to her, rather than you. Perhaps you need to be super careful not to raise her defensiveness. Focus on the one thing you most wish to change rather than have a whole list of demands. Always voice it as concern for DSD rather than which grown-ups have what rights. Is there someone she'd be more likely to listen to? Perhaps a grandparent?
  • Suggest to change the arrangement in a manner so that DSD is with you more frequently on weekends, with DM on weekdays.
You aren't keen on this but if you think it would help, then perhaps put the child first and just remember, it won't be forever. I know you wrote that it wouldn't make any difference if DM had her weekends/week days, so it would not actually improve the situation for DSD whilst still making things more difficult for you. But later you implied that it IS worse for DSD on weekends with DM, compared to weekdays. DM still goes out on week days but less frequently. And perhaps that boyfriend stays over less frequently on week days? I know it is unfair; DM can basically blackmail you into accepting whatever arrangement suits her best. If you don't comply, it is DSD who suffers. So your choice is if you want to stay principled and refuse to be blackmailed and accept DSD's welfare as collateral damage, or if you choose to put DSD's needs first.
  • Try to have DSD with you more.
I understand you would prefer this, as then DSD would be safe and cared for, and you'd still have the freedom of occasionally using other childcare and have a bit of social life. Also you say DM doesn't want this as any such arrangement would involve less money for her. Perhaps your chances of achieving this are best if you do it gradually. Maybe aim, as a final goal, towards having DSD with you 5 nights/week or 11 nights/2 weeks, to include all weekends? Keeping some flexibility so that you can swap days e.g. if DM has some special plans for doing something with DSD on a weekend. But to get there, start by suggesting just one more night/fortnight with you (preferably a weekend night). Show DM that it doesn't make that much difference financially, just one more night out of 14. Then after a couple of months or so suggest adding another night. And later another - then you've reached 10 nights with you, 4 with her. Again if you attempt to do this, think hard about how you can maximise your chances of achieving your aims. Who has to do the negotiating? Is there a go-between, someone who'd be able to suggest the idea to her without her becoming defensive? Perhaps you could find a Saturday activity for DSD that DSD would really love, but DM can't take her to, so the only reason you propose having DSD with you every Friday night (rather than every other Friday night, as it is currently), is so you can take DSD to this activity that she loves? Most of all you need to avoid the message 'we want DSD more with us because we think you don't look after her properly' which is 100% certain to raise her defensiveness. And you need to make sure it's not about the money either, that she doesn't think 'they just want her for an extra night so they can cut my maintenance payments'.

So I think you and your DP need to sit down together, think really hard about how bad it actually is, how much you want to change it and what you are prepared to give up for that. Then decide on what you'd like to achieve. Then think about how you need to go about things in order to achieve that.

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