May Babies... part 2!

[GeorginaA]

... just because we can't stop yammering on

I dont do the 6 in one day I have to do one bottle a day. On a saturday I can express 2 bottles as im normally really full from not having to breast feed friday night and then during the week I express 2ozs each morning and 2-3 ozs each evening until I get 5-6 bottles. As you can see if the formula doesnt work and I have to express for the ebm feed i'm a bit stuffed for time, and likely to get repetitive strain injury.

egypt, how do you manage to express and feed at the same time.ill have to give it a go. i also keep the pump in the fridge and have been known to take it up my mums with me when visiting, although my brother complains how gross it is every time he sees it in the fridge.
DD also very rarely falls asleep on her own. if shes been on her play mat she complains when shes had enough and once i pick her up she falls asleep. occasionally shes fallen asleep in her bouncy chair but only if shes in the garden and in the right frame of mind.

sorry another question, who has moved d's to their own rooms yet

hi kbaby - hope you're still about, we can 'live chat!' anyway, i do find it q hard to feed and express at the same time! have to kind of have dd under arm to feed her, so her legs dont get in way! i'm sure the formula will work fine for you.

so does your mum have her each friday night? thats a good break for you. Does this not cause problems with your milk if you dont feed for a whole night? i guess it's just like them sleeping through. you must feel engorged by sat am! do you give her a morning bf?

anyone seen this thread? i watch the programme, she is BRILLIANT.

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wow - going to take a while to catch up on this thread - Hi everyone

nickinha - hi!

yes we talk quite a bit - well i rabbit on and on and on..........welcome

hi sorry egypt i went to baby group at 1.
yes my mum has her every friday night. i take her up at 9 after a feed and then pick her back up at 10 sat morning. its really nice having a full night of uninterupted sleep plus my mum and dad love having her. my mum had a difficult baby[my brother] and said without my nans help every weekend she wouldnt have coped. as soon as i became pregnant she said she would look after dd every friday. at first i put it off due to bf and wasnt sure about dd having so many bottles. i thought it mayve confused her. shes been fine though and switches from both really well. my mum normally gives her 4 feeds. when i get up on a saturday i express all the milk from my boobs as they are generally rock hard and then feed dd when i pick her up. so far everything seems to be going ok.
weigh in today at 11lbs 2ozs. i packed all her newborn clothes away on saturday - almost made me broody again..

Hi maybelles, have just got back from weekend in Aberfeldy where we have friends with ds 4 months older than dd. Interesting to see another family at work! and omigod dd is SO unputdownable... compared to wee R. who just sits cooing wherever he is left. And never cries. No, Never. Only when he had a blood test once. Oh, it doesn't do to compare babies does it? Every new mum must have a friend with a perfect baby like R. I suppose, just to make you feel inadequate. (However dd is being very smart and perky if a little inconvenient and we do love her).

Kbaby we also rely on underarm hold for expressing while feeding. It works a treat. Also use a feeding cushion which helps keep her in one place and the pump in another. I only express during night feeds now because I don't want to end up with enormous milk supply, and night feeds are reliably further apart than day ones so I get pretty full anyway. Usually after 2 feeds I can expect 6oz.

I left the full pump in my friend's fridge yesterday, thinking we could use the milk in an experimental bottle that evening, but it got knocked over and she ended up with my breastmilk all over her sausages. Be warned, Egypt...

By the way they are also v. up on the vaccinations debate. R. has had none at all because they reckon he ought to be older before he's exposed to all the various... elements... in the jabs. And even then they want them all spaced out. Their reasoning for a lot of the diseases (tho' not all) is that the risk factor for contracting, say, diptheria is so low at the age of 3 months that they're happy to take the chance. Same with tetanus. Apparently the reason for giving so many jabs so early is that it catches babies while they're till 'in the system' - easier to grab 'em as they pass through. Not because the risks are great at that age.

Very good book on the subject: 'Vaccinations: Yes or No?' It's not propoganda but as my mates pointed out, the most detailed information appears to be coming from the camp that questions the wisdom of vaccines.

so much to think about...

Ahh Just got in to chat and have to go again... Sweltering heat here in Algarve!!! Lets hope baby sleeps better tonight (and eats for that matter) Bye all - hope you all have a peacful evening.... YEAH RIGHT!!! Bwahahaha

lol spots re breastmilk in fridge!

wee R sounds a dream , but you dont appreciate the good days when they are all like it!!!

have put blackout material over our bedroom window with drawing pins! send me sleepy vibes!

WUUUHHHHHHHOOOOOOOO! Thank you cat and dh - i did it!!! ahem sorry.

here's dd

giggles
chillded in lilac
garden

Awww! They're gorgeous, Egypt!!

(The plural referring to photos, not implying you have three separate babies... okay, I'll shut up now and stop digging this hole any deeper...)

So... nice lilac dress...

awwww, makes me feel all broody

well done Egypt, she is peachy. We can't catch dd smiling in photos to save a life...

I meant to ask Libb what is a mardy bottom???

Gorgeous photos Egypt. My DD has that lilac shorts and top outfit and she looks lovely in it too.

Thanks for the tips about naps everyone. Its not that I can't get DD to sleep its more a case of her sleeping for long enough so that she's still tired. The sling/car/pushchair work but I really want her to learn to have naps in her cot. Why will she go to sleep at 7.45 without an murmur and sleep to 4, feed, then sleep to 7 but not sleep for more than 20 minutes in the daytime?

To answer some q's. DD is in with us still, she's been in her cot from the beginning and intend to keep her with us for 6 months. I don't do a dream feed because I'm too tired at this time of day and prefer to be woken at 4 because theoretically if I did one DD should go through until 7.

Oh Eygpt, such a princess - clearly mega chuffed with where she is and who she is with! I have tons of piccies of DS but don't know how to paste a jpeg - seems I can only do it via e-mail.

Spots, I'm not sure where mardy bottom started - it means grumpy - very apt for DS at the moment! the last two days have been strange as he hasn't fallen asleep for his epic sleep until 10ish at the earliest - and only stretches to an hour's nap during the day, definitely being mardy!

We're gonna have to start a third thread at this rate . . . . great isn't it?! I don't know what I would do without you all, am currently concerned by a little blood in DS's nappy and Mumsnet is always my first port of call with these sort of things.

Hi to Nickinha by the way, when was your darling born?

Cat, HV is visiting tomorrow but perhaps later in the week for a meet in Cambridge? I have me flash new buggy and one mardy DS with a rash thanks to Grannie and her toxic perfume - hurrah! xx

not quite sure how I got into this thread but thought I would mention that hereabouts (Lancs) the term is mard-arse. Same meaning but much much terser.

Egypt, your darling is gorgeous!

Egypt, your dd is gorgeous. My dd also has that lilac shorts and t-shirt set, my granny got it for her but it's to small now, have to pack it away with the rest of her too small baby clothes, I look at them in the drawer and wish I'd taken photo's of her in every outfit as they are all so cute and now they don't fit. Mind you the amount of photo's we've been taking I should be buying shares in Jessops photo shop, lol

dd2 is still in with us, her moses basket is in the cot in our room. Plan on keeping her there until about 6 months old. Plus need to get her bedroom painted and organised.

I don't do a dream feed, dd2 feeds at 8pm goes to bed at 9pm and gets up anytime between 5 and 7am. Then goes back to sleep until about 9am. I think I've written that in the past 3 posts I've posted on this thread, must stop doing that.
The other night dd2 was getting really antsy around 8.30pm and I couldn't figure out why as she'd had a lateish nap. But she was really grumpy so I thought I'd try putting her to bed around 8.45pm and she went to sleep. So it looks like even if she has a nap around 7pm she still wants to go to bed at 9.

Dh told me today that his mum is able to babysit on Wednesday night if we want to go to the pictures then. But dd2 is getting her first jabs on Wednesday and I don't think I'll feel comfortable leaving her after having them, would much rather stay home and fret and check her temperature every 5 minutes.

As you can probably tell from the time of my posts I stay up late. I'm a night owl anyway and now that dd2 sleeps most of the night I tend to stay up until around 1am then go to bed. This of course means that I get up feed dd2 go back to sleep then get up again when she wakes at 9am/10am. Can only get away with this because dd1 is on school holidays. Once she goes back to school in 3 weeks time I'll be going to bed at around 11/midnight at the latest.

aww, thank you all. yes dd is quickly growing out of that lilac suit too, it's a newborn size. may just have to buy it in 0-3 and 3-6 as well!

you are all doing really well with your night's sleep. we tried the blackout sheet last night and it was a much better night. she didnt actually want a feed before i put her to bed which was strange! she really screamed so wrapped her tightly and put her down. she was asleep by 7.55pm! fully expected her to wake very soon with hunger. tried a dream feed at 9.30 when i went to bed but she was soooo asleep she wouldnt. finally she woke at 12.30, then 3 is i think, i really can't remember, then 6.15am. wouldnt go back to sleep after that, but is now sleeping (8.20am) in her bouncer in front of GMTV! we didnt have that horrid "it may be 4.30am, but it's light so I am awake for an hour" situation this morning, so thats good.

libb, i'm sure cat's dh wouldnt mind me passing on instructions of how to put your pics on net. this is if you are with ntl. otherwise he'll have to maybe tell you another way. i think you can get a photo album with yahoo.com, online, and we can see them in that.

jabs tomorrow too linnet. i wouldnt want to leave dd with mil either. why do men not seem to fret so much?

I feel really sad today.

Last night, I didn't wind ds2 properly after his 10.30pm feed, couldn't work out why he was so restless in his moses basket and was lying there in the dark thinking "oh for goodness sake, go to sleep!" Then there was this sound of rushing fluid, I put my hand in his moses basket and everything was sodden!

Put the light on, he was looking smug and relaxed and almost asleep, but everything was drenched - his babygro, the blankets, the undersheet, the fabric sides of the basket... EVERYTHING. So I had to put him in his big cot in his own room for the night until I'd washed the fabric outer part of the moses basket (couldn't just change the sheets as it would still have been wet and uncomfortable).

He settled down really quickly, gave me a huge beaming smile for putting him down in his cot and went straight to sleep. Popped in on him an hour later to check on him and he looked so much more comfortable stretched out with plenty of room, and he slept right through to 6am this morning, so I guess he's going to be in there permanently now.

Problem is, I missed all his snuffles and wriggles in the night

I knew we wouldn't be able to keep him long in our room, because we can only just fit a moses basket in there - a cot would be impossible. I just hadn't expected the time to go quite so fast.

Oh, and I think he's teething too as he's gnawing on his hands and dribbling a lot, his bottom gum is all white and hard, and you can feel little ridges just under the surface. So making the most of my last gummy smiles.

wail ... where's my little newborn gone?!

oh bless georgina. but you will sleep so much better and he is as happy as a pig in * so dont worry. ahhh.