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May Babies... part 2!

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GeorginaA · 14/07/2004 19:19

... just because we can't stop yammering on

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Egypt · 24/08/2004 14:05

georgina, i see on your software page we can download 'akra's diary'. is it ok to do that?

spots · 24/08/2004 14:08

I want to post pictures too! but if you make an album, does that mean the whole album becomes available for public viewing if you link it though a thread like this one? or can you just pick one or two images to show?

Not that I have anything to hide from y'all...Just don't want all the crowds of crazy perverts that lurk in the wings to become familiar with my family...

libb · 24/08/2004 14:11

That was my reasoning too Spots - DP thinks I am being silly but there are some odd people around . . .

We're going to look at a nursery this afternoon - can't believe I will be going back in 6 weeks . . . depresses me to bits.

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Egypt · 24/08/2004 14:21

yeah i know what you mean. here's a piccie of dd just today though. !

ahhh

ok and another one!

libb · 24/08/2004 14:28

oh bless - what a smile! what a sweetie. DS doesn't do smiling as much as I would like - he has a wry grin and an sarcastic amused glint in his eye sometimes - which I think comes from his father.

I want to post piccies! might just go for one of those albums afterall.

kbaby · 24/08/2004 16:50

How do you do a album. im with freeserve and havent the foggiest how i do one.

practice nurse said cant have infanrix and instead have to wait until the 5in1 is available. how do i know if the 5in1 is going to turn out the be safe.

dd's been a knightmare today, shes only slept for 1 hr and is knackered. ive been trying to cuddle her to get her to sleep but she keeps scramming, kicking and pushing me away. decided to put her in her swing as i was hot with the sruggling. she just screamed until i took her out. i ended up feeding her just to get her off to sleep but the minute i put her in the cot she woke up. after 5 mins of rocking and wearing the living room carpet out shes finally asleep on my lap.

kbaby · 24/08/2004 16:53

how many hrs are your d's napping for now

had dd weighed today and she hasnt put that much weight on again. last week she only gained 1/2oz and this week its 2ozs. shes now 12lb and has fallen under her centile

kbaby · 24/08/2004 16:59

forgot to add that all the piccies look lovely

prufrock · 24/08/2004 17:32

kbaby - you don't, but it doesn't have mercury which is a start, and there have been few problems in Canada. I spoke to my GP about it today, (private one, so giving good advice not govt advice) and he said he gave his son, and will give his dd the 5 in one, so personally I would be OK with it. (We are sticking with DTaP though as already had some and got the appointments booked - but I wouldn't have had a problem with the 5in 1)

kbaby · 24/08/2004 17:38

these immunisations are getting so confusing. normally i would spend ages researching into it but with dd i just dont have the time or energy. all i know is that im not giving dtwp an am resorting to asking others what i should do or where do i go now.
is it just me who doesnt have any energy to do anything, all i want to do is lie on the settee with a book and a cup of tea in the evening. instead im running round putting washing away, doing washing, loading dishwasher, making dinner, hoovering and everything else that i cant do with dd

spots · 24/08/2004 17:45

Egypt, what a person she is. That smiley one looks like she has teeth! Is she dark haired?

DD sleeps for anything from 1 hr to 4 hrs during day, cumulatively (sp?).I have now got to the stage where I can put her in the pram when she's drowsy and she WILL FALL ASLEEP!!! which is a real step forwards. I am practising this at the expense of reliable long sleeps, which was the Wilkinet way.

GeorginaA · 24/08/2004 17:46

Egypt - yes Akra's Diary is quite safe in that as far as we know it's virus free (we have good virus protection here). Dh wrote it - it's a little utility like notepad but you can file things by keyword or by date. Written for me and a writer friend of mine because we both needed something a little more sophisticated than notepad, but not as complicated as all the commercial diary-type programs out there!

It comes with no warranty, but is freeware to anyone who wants to use it... for more info you can email hubby: software [at] akrabat.com (substitute [at] for @ obviously)

Beautiful smiley piccies!!

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kbaby · 24/08/2004 17:56

dd's still asleep on my lap. thats been nearly 2 hrs now.
i dont understand how in the morning dd is happy to go in her cot to sleep[do have to get her drowsy first though or even asleep] but the rest of the day will only sleep in moving pram, carseat or on lap.
someone will have to invent a treadmil that i can attach the pram to so dd thinks were walking. rocking it back and forth doesnt work.

Judd · 24/08/2004 20:00

Hello everyone! Hey, just noticed that Cat82 hasn't posted for a while - has she changed her name or just disappeared?
Please can anybody make me feel better about my mothering skills? Does anybody else's baby have to have a couple of minutes of crying to settle themselves to sleep? DS does it at every nap and I'm sure I can't ALWAYS be misreading his tired signs and putting him down too late. Its hard trying to put 2 children to bed at the same time, I can't give him the quiet wind down in darkened room that DD used to have and I feel really sad about it.
Georgina- what is happening in your LTN? DS invariably wakes after 45 mins for a couple of cries, then goes back to sleep, then will sometimes do the same after another 45. I tend not to go anywhere near as he always does go back to sleep...I'm just waiting for it to all seamlessly link into one lovely big sleep which I presume is nicer for him though!

GeorginaA · 24/08/2004 20:14

Well if your mothering skills are crap, so are mine . Both ds1 and ds2 were/are criers. In fact ds1 WOULDN'T be rocked cuddled or anything else to sleep - the choice was 10 minutes sob in a darkened room while I sat on the step outside berating myself for being an evil mother, or an hour or so heated crying with me walking up and down with him in my arms feeling absolutely crap for not being able to help him at all.

At least ds2 is somewhat soothable with rocking/walking/cuddling, although he does still like a good howl before bed - sometimes he does it in his cot, sometimes in my arms before I put him down. I keep reminding myself that ds1 became a very good independant sleeper so I can't have been all that bad, but still.

LTN has gone rather pearshaped in the last few weeks. It seems to be debateable whether I can get him down to sleep very quickly at all (unsettled for half hour plus) then only sleeps 45 minutes and that's it. He then gets extremely overtired even with an extra nap later on in the afternoon, and 5pm-7pm is an absolute nightmare.

Today though, we seemed to have a much better go of it. I kept him up a bit longer until he had more definite sleepy signs (which turned out to be around 12.05 - a full 20 minutes after I'd usually start trying to settle him) and he went down like a dream. He did wake up after 45mins but he didn't sound that persistant at crying and after about 3 minutes he'd settled himself... woke again about 20 mins later and grumbled again for 4 minutes then I didn't hear from him again until I went to pick him up at 2pm (we had to go out - otherwise I'd have opened the curtains and waited to see what time he awoke).

Fluke? Later settling time made a difference? Shrug. He's gone down for his evening sleep much better today too. Perhaps he's just getting better at self-settling.

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Judd · 24/08/2004 20:26

Oh thank you so much for replying! Yes, like you, I already have one cracking good sleeper and there's no reason why DS shouldn't go the same way.
I'm wondering if I should give a bit less sleep around 9am to try and get a better LTN going...who knows??? We went for a drive this afternoon because I had some post to deliver and thought DS could have a little 15 mins kip. 15 mins later, he is wide awake and DD is dead to the world...resulting in her capering around with a hairdryer at 7pm even though her hair hadn't been washed and me trying my best to speak in nice mummy voice through clenched teeth "shall we read the Gruffalo now, sweet pea?"
Erm.....if I mentioned weaning, would everyone recoil in horror?

Judd · 24/08/2004 20:29

Oh yes, like your DS1, Georgina, DS doesn't thank me for any attempts at shushing, rocking etc. Even though it means he cries, he seems to be a lot happier with being put into cot, tucked in and left alone. I've just figured that as long as I'm constant in my approach, at least he knows what will happen when.

Egypt · 24/08/2004 20:30

yes she does look like she has teeth on one! very spooky. it's prob a bit of drool, that or the crap quality of our digital pics! she has 'golden' hair (not q at the ginger stages), certainly not dark no.

kbaby, dd always has to be rocked, put in car or pram to go to sleep. she also cries at bedtime, was it judd that asked? just for a few minutes. straight after being dressed after her bath, until she's picked up, then after her bottle when i wrap her up for bed, until i stick my finger in her mouth! she is asleep in minutes, if not seconds then. i am just praying she finds her thumb soon so i can stop the finger sucking and hoping she falls asleep unswaddled so she can actually suck her thumb!

strangely enough, dd took 6oz of ebm at 7pm, and woke up 15 mins ago. couldnt settle her so gave her a boob and she took another boob full! greedy guts.

judd, babies have a 45min sleep cycle dont they? where they enter light sleep after 45 mins. thats excellent if your ds falls asleep by himself again though.

Judd · 24/08/2004 20:34

I bet thumb sucking will kick in quite soon, Egypt. I couldn't wait for DS to find his, and he has now although he can only get it in reliably when he is calm and collected! We went from swaddling to unsettled and then to blissful silence once The Mighty Thumb had come onto the scene!

GeorginaA · 24/08/2004 20:36

Judd - I won't recoil in horror - technically ds2 is only 2 weeks away from earliest weaning time (17wks). I think I'm going to try and aim for 6 months though unless he starts waking up consistently in the night for more than 3 days in a row... i.e. fairly obviously needing the extra calories. We're going away on holiday in 3 weeks time, and obviously it'll be easier for us if we don't have to worry about solids then!

Ds1 was weaned dead on 17wks though (I had mastitis at the time and my supply was low with the antibiotics, so it seemed the best thing to do, and he certainly took to it well with no resultant allergies) so I won't be gutted if we do end up weaning before the 6 month mark. More and ideal I'm trying to reach for, iykwim!

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Egypt · 24/08/2004 20:43

oh good about the thumb judd! does he suck himself to sleep then?

you go on and wean girl! how do you know he needs it?
i'd never know with dd. her waking more often in the night couldnt be possible - so that wouldnt give me a clue!

she is putting on about 6oz a week still, so i'm sure she is ok. what does the hv say about your dd kbaby? if she thinks it's fine then dont worry.

Egypt · 24/08/2004 20:44

arrrrrgh! nooooooo tech support!

Bozza · 24/08/2004 20:45

Judd my DD nearly always cries when put down. Sometimes she stops as soon as I've tucked her in and given her piglet - other times it can be quite a few minutes and I have to judge whether she is winding down or not. Also often wakes up 45 minutes into a nap and cries before settling again. She used to do the crying thing at bedtime too but has got more used to that and generally goes down better.

Also re weaning - I've no intention of starting yet but then my DD only weighed 12 lb 9 today. I think you've done well to get where you have with your DS so would probably be thinking about it in your circumstances. How many weeks is your DS?

libb · 24/08/2004 21:07

Judd, Cat82 and I met for lunch on Friday and she is lovely - and her DD is absolutely yummy!

Cat and I seem to have so many similarities it is untrue! Also, She and I were on the same ward although our memories are very vague (I wonder why!) but I distinctly remember her partner and even weirder is that her partner and mine work in the same building! Its just crazy purple!

Hopefully she will post again soon xxx

libb · 24/08/2004 21:11

GeorginaA, is waking more often during the night a sign of weaning? DS has been doing this a bit recently and for no obvious reason - I have to admit that I let him try the tiniest amount of liquid food on the tip of his tongue the other day and you'd have thought Christmas had come!

My HV says 4 months and so I need to figure out how this should tie in with work - wise words would be welcome please?

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