Normal for lots of babies to be crying their eyes out in nursery?

[TrixieLox]

Our nursery called today to say my daughter has a rash and seems ill so best I take her home. When I collected her, several of the toddlers in her room were crying their eyes out, looking quite unhappy. Is this normal? It was about 10.30 so not near nap time or lunch.

I posted before about collecting my daughter from her first full day there and she looked a state, but nothing was mentioned (think she had a reaction to the glue in her painting). She's only in there 2 days a week but has got more and more upset each time I drop her off. Of course, this could be because she's ill (turns out she has an upper respiratory infection).

I just feel a bit 'off' about this nursery. Has outstanding OFSTED reports and great feedback from work colleagues. But they don't seem to tell us much, e.g., we don't get a sheet of things she's eaten, behaviour like friends do at other nurseries / childminders.

To add to seeing a bunch of crying children there today, I don't know, I don't feel right about things and am wondering if I should explore childminder options. Am I being paranoid?

That is so true myfeet. Sadly this sort of thing is quit common.

My two favourites are (not on mumsnet)

OP; I am in serious debt and don't know what to do
response: I have never had any sort of debt other than my mortgage

OP; I am worried about dc's reading- can not cope with simplest books offered at school
Response; my child is the same age as yours, is a free reader and has just finished the Harry Potter books.

Why post at all, just why

I still can't get past the comment that nurseries are like zoos.

FFs.

For those who are baffled.

The title asks if dc crying in nursery is normal, people gave their opinion.
What's to be baffled about

If you haven't experienced nurseries that are zoos then try visiting a few and no doubt sooner or later you will find one, or two, or three

We just don't want to see it though, right?

I think if we searched the entire country and found the very worse nursery, even then it would not be anything remotely resembling a zoo.

Most zoos seem to be orderly places where the animals are kept in the most appropriate enclosure available, well fed, well cared for and the staff are really enthusiastic about the animals in their care. They form great bonds with their animals and work to enrich their environments and keep the animals stimulated.

If you want to draw parallels, I can see plenty with my DD's nursery, but they are entirely positive.

Harold

How on earth can I comment on you or your nursery
I can however comment on the bad nurseries I know of and the parents who use them.
They either can't see or refuse to see, it isn't rocket science.
maybe they trust the ofsted outstanding, or are impressed with the waiting lists, either way there are plenty parents using inadequate nurseries.
There are obviously parents using very good nurseries too.
My point was there are a lot of zoos with crying children.
No, the zoo doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the children, just how they are treated and cared for, or not in some cases.
If me calling a spade a spade offends, then tough.
It's just somebodies experience on a public forum.

They are like zoos because children cry in zoos?

I'm not asking you to comment about the nursery I use honestly, I've done my research and I'm happy with it.

I didn't see the post where you called a spade a spade. Only the ones where you called all the nurseries you'd experienced a zoo. Not seeing that it's the same

That's like calling a spade a JCB.

If it appears like a zoo to me then I will call it a zoo. yes, calling a spade a spade.
If you are happy with your nursery, why be offended that somebody else has only experienced them being like zoos.
I have a friend who owns her own nursery, I'm sure its very good, although I haven't visited it, it doesn't stop others from being zoos

The ultimate zoo must be schools then?!

The ultimate zoo must be schools then?!

Oh this'll be good.

Oh man!

Ha it was a joke clearly

Fid

yes, of course there are some schools like zoos too. I think any institution has the possibility of being zoo like if it isn't managed properly.

Morethan, out of interest, when was the last time you visited one of these zoos? What geographical distribution? What time frame?

And how like zoos, exactly? What kind of zoos? Are they fulfilling their statutory conservation purposes effectively? Overblown similes without concrete examples of what you mean lead to... Well, they lead to nonsense like this thread.

I have a list of South London zoo-schools morethan. Some of them rated 'Outstanding'. You won't get an argument from me on that subject. I just wondered if Paddington knew what she was doing

The past 20 or so years as a parent mostly but for a while observing my students in their setting.

Fid.

my dc went to a mixture of zoos and better schools. Ds1 went to the worst ever high school frequently on the news, but as he went they had a new superhead who not only turned it into a beacon school but changed a lot of the community. That was some going.
He called us once to help him pick up his award, we were puzzled as how heavy can a book token be. It was only the latest laptop available, all the money was distributedbetween this and another really bad school. He did so well and reached his potential.
Both ds1 and 2 spent time in a primary zoo, but others they went to were fine.
Of course you know about dd

We had a shooting at one of our local comps. So that's worse than a zoo I suppose

But yes some truly awful schools can turn round fast. In fact the best primary any of mine ever attended was fresh out of special measures. At the other end of the scale my eldest in currently at a glittering selective state sixth form and we have some wonderful schools locally of various types.

I'm quite happy to pretend all schools are the same if it keeps the peace though

No need to pretend all schools are the same, winky wink.

I don't think all nurseries are the same, I am not that much of a thicky.